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Macdeo Lurjtux
Jul 5, 2011

BRRREADSTOOORRM!

RareAcumen posted:

On another mission? The show seems to present the world like Cecil is the only person who gets teleporting technology.

Well he has said each jump costs more than the GDP of some nations and the dude won't even foot the bill for a trauma specialist for his number 2.

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Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do




Hughlander posted:

Was she as much of a Captain Marvel cosplay in that scene in the comics?

as far as costume design and hairstyle, yes, they kept the same design (I suck at interneting, otherwise I would post a page from that issue) but like I said before they changed her demeanour. In the comics she's all wide-eyed and on the verge of a panic attack for almost the entire encounter and is pretty fixated on Mark. What we see here still shows an Eve that has been harrowed by 20 years of Mark's absence, but you get that balance of that simply being the reality that she has lived through. 20 years without Invincible was hard on everybody, it's not just about her and when she's making her confession she looks so tired.

Her getting catharsis through the confession feels a lot stronger than it feeling like she's been holding this in for 20 years and will suffer a complete mental breakdown if she doesn't let it out. Kinda feels like, even in a lovely universe, therapists still exist :therapy:

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010

Serotoning posted:

As a non-comic reader, from what I've read here, they seem to be pretty faithful to the comic, for better or worse?

The characterisation of women and girls is far better than the comics. Paper thin stereotypes would be a generous description. They have actual agency in the show, and dont just exist as appendages of the men. There was lots fridging too. Amber was a particularly egregious example. Eve's costume was basically a pink swimsuit.

William being in the closet, and the "This is soooo gaaaaay!!!" winkwink comments about things he does, thrown in the bin from the outset is a welcome change too. Times have changed and tbh that kind of "humour" was out of place 20 years ago.

The plot beats are mostly the same though.

Collateral fucked around with this message at 18:32 on Apr 5, 2024

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

Amber wasn't fridged

Collateral
Feb 17, 2010
You are correct.

Collateral fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Apr 5, 2024

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

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Maybe remove cause that’s still possibly in the future

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
I hope not because that would be really gross. "This woman doesn't want to date the protagonist for very fair reasons, let's stick her with a bad boyfriend to punish her would be how it would read.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump trump
There's always the BSS TV Shows thread here if you really really want to talk about comic stuff that hasn't happened yet

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Spoilers I appreciate: 'In the comic that wasn't a knock-off Doctor Octopus and Spider-Man they were the actual Marvel characters and Mark and Peter have an extended heartfelt conversation together'

Spoilers I don't need: 'Is Space Racer a real character or something made up by Omni-Man entirely, will Anissa have a face-turn like Nolan is currently, will Oliver gain any powers by the end of the show'

Piell posted:

I can't stand the way this show does black eyes, just two big purple smooching lips

MiddleOne posted:

It just looks so weird and I can't believe they were so proud of it they did it thrice in the same episode.

That'll happen when they're swollen shut.

I am sure that you can guess what this is from context clues. Don't click it if you don't want to see it.

mutantIke
Oct 24, 2022

Born in '04
Certified Zoomer

Collateral posted:

Eve's costume was basically a pink swimsuit.

Hopefully this is light enough of a spoiler to exist in the thread but I am really looking forward to seeing if/how they bring over Eve's weight gain, something that's wrapped around from funny to problematic to chill again.

Also, I really feel like a lot of the issues the show has in its current state stem from the double-length episodes. The show's length has never really felt like it served any purpose to me, like they're just signifiers of the show's "Prestige" status. If they switched over to 16 episodes at 22 minutes each, I think it would both work better from a structural screenwriting perspective (not so many false endings!) and large-scale perspective (more time to build hype!). 40 minutes of TV animation is just unsustainable imho.

everydayfalls
Aug 23, 2016
The thing that bothered me the most about the black eye was it looked like the same piece of clip art copy and pasted on to the models with the eyebrows drawn on top.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
To be fair, two of them were caused by the same fist :v:

MonsterEnvy
Feb 4, 2012

Shocked I tell you

zoux posted:

There's a whole invinci-verse that Kirkman created, some of which only existed in the main book, but a bunch got their own books or limited series as Invincible became more and more popular. I don't expect that they're going to add in most of those characters, especially if they couldn't even use Science Dog.

Apparently Kirkman is resistant to giving Amazon universal rights to his characters even if they show up in Invincible.

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




https://twitter.com/reza825_/status/1776155492005322914

Blueberry Pancakes
Aug 18, 2012

Jack in!! MegaMan, Execute!
That happened a lot faster than I expected.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005


Very disappointed his name is agent spider and not Arachnid-Man like I thought when I saw the A.

Technocrat
Jan 30, 2011

I always finish what I sta
I thought I heard the GDA troops teleport in this episode, when they showed up. That or they were just waiting for Cecil's expensive entrance

roomtone
Jul 1, 2021

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 6 days!)

if they didn't teleport, it's funny to think cecil could just ride in the truck with them if he's going to wait until they arrive anyway but no, he must spent the GDP of some countries to avoid carpooling

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




Technocrat posted:

I thought I heard the GDA troops teleport in this episode, when they showed up. That or they were just waiting for Cecil's expensive entrance

Cloaking

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iY_ZIvEZwFI

Also, again, people can be in other places when chaos ensues. If the Guardians are out in Italy dealing with a ghost ship crewed by skeleton pirates off the coast of Tuscany and a scientist accidentally turns his entire laboratory staff into incomplete werewolves it's not like they can all say 'Everyone, hop the panel in this comic book and we'll be there faster than Speedy Gonzales!'

Megillah Gorilla
Sep 22, 2003

If only all of life's problems could be solved by smoking a professor of ancient evil texts.



Bread Liar

Hughlander posted:

Very disappointed his name is agent spider and not Arachnid-Man like I thought when I saw the A.

I've always been partial to Arachnobat.

No Luck Needed
Mar 18, 2015

Ravel Crew
I liked they wrapped up the dimension hoping because that is over done right now. Focus on the viltrum and that story because they dont have the same time to tell the story as a comic. And it gives the comic more things if you want more things. Oh I want more invincible, good thing there is some

I enjoyed the Tyreese and his daughter way more in the Walking Dead comic than the show and in fact, the treatment of both of those characters ruin the TV show versus how their stories are wildly different and better in the comic

.edt

a classic case of "better in the book"
invincible cartoon best super hero cartoon in a long time

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.
Also given the nature of his power (i haven't read the comics so this may not happen) Angstrom could always come back given there are infinite realities. Another version of Angstrom who's experiment succeeded could always come back if the plot demands it. Our Angstrom may have collapsed the waveform, but there were only a few hundred of him in that room when it went badly.

socialsecurity
Aug 30, 2003

BioEnchanted posted:

Also given the nature of his power (i haven't read the comics so this may not happen) Angstrom could always come back given there are infinite realities. Another version of Angstrom who's experiment succeeded could always come back if the plot demands it. Our Angstrom may have collapsed the waveform, but there were only a few hundred of him in that room when it went badly.

This is one of the many reasons I hate multiverse stuff.

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

BioEnchanted posted:

Also given the nature of his power (i haven't read the comics so this may not happen) Angstrom could always come back given there are infinite realities. Another version of Angstrom who's experiment succeeded could always come back if the plot demands it. Our Angstrom may have collapsed the waveform, but there were only a few hundred of him in that room when it went badly.

I mean there are an infinite number of Angstroms that can dimension hop, there's an infinite number of them where he was crippled by Invinicible, and an infinite number of them where dozens of him from an infinite number of other dimensions attacked Invincible every single month.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

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Hughlander posted:

I mean there are an infinite number of Angstroms that can dimension hop, there's an infinite number of them where he was crippled by Invinicible, and an infinite number of them where dozens of him from an infinite number of other dimensions attacked Invincible every single month.

gently caress all those angstroms I want Dino angstrom

Hughlander
May 11, 2005

Good Citizen posted:

gently caress all those angstroms I want Dino angstrom

same.

Thinking of this more reminds me of John Scalzi's Old Man War books. FTL travel is impossible. Rather you go to one of an infinite number of parallel universes where you appear in the spot that you wanted to that isn't the same as the universe you left. But that's ok because chances are that a copy of you left that universe and appeared in the one you were born in. It's like the inverse transporter kills you and assembles a clone of you problem.

Takes No Damage
Nov 20, 2004

The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far.


Grimey Drawer

BioEnchanted posted:

Also given the nature of his power (i haven't read the comics so this may not happen) Angstrom could always come back given there are infinite realities. Another version of Angstrom who's experiment succeeded could always come back if the plot demands it. Our Angstrom may have collapsed the waveform, but there were only a few hundred of him in that room when it went badly.

Isn't this untrue specifically for Angstrom? Thought he gave the Brothers some throwarway line about how he was the only one who could dimension hop. Or I guess you could argue that even if he hooked up a billion of himself in those machines, infinity minus a billion still equals infinity.

Overall I'm feeling that S1 was done a lot better, moving around things to have the big Omni/Mark fight be the climax worked really well, it has a lot less impact in like issue 6 of the comic. But S2 seems to stick a lot closer to the print source, for worse in many cases.

Panfilo
Aug 27, 2011

EXISTENCE IS PAIN😬
I wonder what method Viltrunites use to execute their apostates? Shoot them into the sun?

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK
Sep 11, 2001



Takes No Damage posted:

Isn't this untrue specifically for Angstrom? Thought he gave the Brothers some throwarway line about how he was the only one who could dimension hop

He did say that.

BioEnchanted
Aug 9, 2011

He plays for the dreamers that forgot how to dream, and the lovers that forgot how to love.

Panfilo posted:

I wonder what method Viltrunites use to execute their apostates? Shoot them into the sun?

Probably just a lot of punching. also I loved in the immediate aftermath of Angstrom with Mark just wandering the infinite desert muttering "I thought he was stronger... he said he wa... I thought... I had to but... I wanted to kill him but I wasn't sure if I could... I thought he was stronger..."

Serotoning
Sep 14, 2010

D&D: HASBARA SQUAD
HANG 'EM HIGH


We're fighting human animals and we act accordingly

BioEnchanted posted:

Probably just a lot of punching.

I lol'd

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money

CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:

He did say that.

He did, he also gathered up most, if not all, surviving angstroms he could find and then exploded the machine they were all strapped to (And I assume this exploded the machines in the other dimensions that even more were strapped to?) which probably just killed all of the angstroms ever.

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


My biggest issue with Invincible is the animation quality, exacerbated by the gap between seasons. For comparison, I'm looking at a show like Legend of Korra, which put out 4 seasons between 2012 and 2014, with an average of 13 episodes per season and top notch tv animation quality. Invincible is doing more minutes of footage per season, but the quality is... Like it's just about acceptable, but outside of one or two fights per season there's never a moment that I find "impressive" from an an animation quality perspective.

The Atom Eve special they did had some really nicely choreographed moments though. That was like seeing what Invincible could be with the quality notched up a bit.

The story is fine, its updating the comics in a smart way although I also agree this season's ending is much less impactful than the first. I didn't even realize this latest episode was a season finale.

Nuebot
Feb 18, 2013

The developer of Brigador is a secret chud, don't give him money
I'd be perfectly fine with the mediocre animation if the gaps weren't so long and that mid-season gap wasn't a thing. But having such long gaps to produce such a middling visual product feels off.

UnderFreddy
Oct 9, 2012

GEGENPOSTING

part 2 of season 2 was good and fun. An enjoyable time. Happy Amber left the toxic relationship and my boy Allen is making plans

UnderFreddy fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Apr 7, 2024

Ccs
Feb 25, 2011


Amazon doesn't release viewership data do they? I'd be curious how many million viewers tune into each episode of Invincible. Show like Korra got 3 to 4 million viewers per episode and maybe if Invincible is only getting 2 that would explain why its like half the visual quality?

But also if budget is the issue I would think ramping up the visual quality might draw in more viewers. But I guess they spent the budget on voice actors.

Ccs fucked around with this message at 02:09 on Apr 7, 2024

GateOfD
Jan 31, 2023

by Fluffdaddy

(and can't post for 7 days!)

rewatched Episode 1 of S1, yea still hits very strong. The line readings from everyone is so good.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013
Man, some of the animation here is strong, but some of it is very sad. Sometimes when people are flying it looks great, but a lot of the time it's static and yuck. There's also a shot of Rex standing up, during the cliffhanger reprisal after he's been shot in the head, that's just awful. There's a bunch of poo poo like that.

A good contemporary comparison might be Pantheon, which shelled out for fight scenes but also had a lot of nice animation during the pure dramatic character conversations. That was a forty minute show too.

Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

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Some stuff from an account that I don’t recognize but sounds encouraging

https://x.com/thecartoonbase/status/1776417985504125135?s=46

https://x.com/thecartoonbase/status/1776418056001999239?s=46

Kinda confirming season 3 pacing because there is a lot of huge game changing stuff that comes hard and fast at this point

Also a lot of stuff in that thread about the show having great ratings/demand

Good Citizen fucked around with this message at 03:06 on Apr 7, 2024

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Good Citizen
Aug 12, 2008

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Also, if anyone is maybe considering jumping into the comics during the wait, maybe even at some kinda place where you could readcomiconline dot li, the Angstrom fight was issue #33, but in general plot beats the story is caught up with about issue #46 or 47 or so in most ways.

Good Citizen fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Apr 7, 2024

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