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Part of what makes the quasar so good against bugs is the laser drone is absurdly good against them and probably needs a nerf. Quasar for the big stuff, slugger for the medium and and laser drone to clean up the chaff and you can handle just about anything very well.
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Arglebargle III posted:How do you buddy load anyway? I grabbed a guy's spare backpack and reloaded it from ammo crates, and then when I got up to him I realized I had no idea how to start the buddy load animation. While you have the correct ammo backpack on, they need the correct gun out. You stand behind their right-hand side (has to be the right-hand) and you should get prompted to assist them with loading, and will connect to them and automatically follow them as they move (if you move around on your own you're likely to un-attach yourself accidentally). When they shoot you reload them from your back pack automatically.
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Infidelicious posted:Real talk: The Quasar has been a great *alternative* to Sir Carl. The biggest downside for me and the Quasar is the charge up. There are many times I need to fire a heavy AT shot *loving now* and the boot time for Quasar can be fatal. Distance means safety for Quasar gunners. In close up engagements, having to dance while holding down the fire button to charge and shoot a single shot sucks to do. I mean, c'mon my sights are on target, loving shoot already! Related to that is the Quasar's flinch, which feels more severe than the recoilless. I've killed myself plenty of times by accident by shooting the cover i was next while taking bot fire that the recoilless ignores. Reload times with the recoilless was managed by tried-and-true shoot and displace tactics. Granted, the Quasar can do this too while it's not equipped, but the point is solo recoilless reloads are manageable. And if you being buddy loaded (remember this is a team game), the recoilless rate of fire is superior to the Quasar. Both heavies are effective, high-power, democracy dispensing platforms. ArmyGroup303 fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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Beat another helldive by the skin of our teeth lmao We accidentally spawned next to a shrieker's nest, and someone went in for a suicide mission to clear it while we (failed) to stabilize. After a bit I decided to go rescue him and right as I got there, telling him I'll cover him, a dead shrieker blasted him from offscreen and launched him across the map. It was the hardest I've laughed in a while Also we started panicking as we couldn't read the terminal instructions until we had the big brain idea to simply shoot out the lights RBA Starblade fucked around with this message at 05:02 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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Stalwart should be ground loot only like that break barrel shotgun.
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ArmyGroup303 posted:And if you being buddy loaded (remember this is a team game), the recoilless rate of fire is superior to the Quasar. It's significantly faster even if you're solo loading.
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Apr 8, 2024 05:18
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Apple Craft posted:Stalwart should be ground loot only like that break barrel shotgun. I'd love to see that more at higher levels if it could do more.
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Make the stalwart and mmg still be a stratagem but replace your primary imo
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this planet was so cool man https://i.imgur.com/vgbS5p4.mp4
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Tom Tucker posted:Real talk I'm a Quasar believer but I got into a reinforce / death spiral a game ago with a team that was ignoring the Stalker lair spawning 4x stalkers seemingly every minute and I would have killed for a quick calldown EAT that wasn't a weapon sitting halfway across the map where I was trying to close a bug hole. Whenever I take the Quaser I feel like a Cybertruck buyer. "Yeah I tried to fire but the Charger got there before it fired so I got knocked into a Bile Spewer. Immediately killed me. Then got reinforced across the map. Love the weapon, though." Maybe use a grenade launcher? It's excellent at closing bug holes, doesn't need a backpack and kills a lot of bugs that aren't titans and chargers. You'll end up leaning on your primary more though unless you use a supply backpack with it.
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Cinematic as gently caress. Amazing. Imagine that experience but with big numbers flashing on the screen Kill the Justice League style. 10,525! CRITICAL HIT!
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Tom Tucker posted:Cinematic as gently caress. Amazing. Games do that now days? I don't need numbers, I know when to stop shooting me because it's no longer to kill me, probably in pieces landing all over.
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BitBasher posted:Maybe use a grenade launcher? It's excellent at closing bug holes, doesn't need a backpack and kills a lot of bugs that aren't titans and chargers. You'll end up leaning on your primary more though unless you use a supply backpack with it. Yeah I’ve done this a lot and it’s super fun but I don’t go anywhere on 7-9s anymore without something that can one-shot chargers and reliably kill a Titan. I tried to rely on a few orbitals or eagles or (shudder) teammates for it and always wind up dying.
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Speaking of MGs, on PS5 whenever you dive/crouch/prone and you hold a machine gun it seems to switch your weapon. So if I was holding the MG and I go prone it always switches me over to my primary. I haven't used one since the last patch but did they ever address or fix this?
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deep dish peat moss posted:a big tip for all the long-time bot players who are doing bugs now for the first time: Baffling post. Bugs cannot use suppressing fire or launch missile barrages (yet  ). They can't do anything to you if they die before they reach you. Deathballing is the strongest tactic against bugs, you don't need to herd or position them when you have four competent players laying down fire, because all of the bugs will die before they can do anything. The only thing that doesn't immediately die is BTs, and any lone BT can get nuked by stratagems and concentrated rocket fire. There needs to be multiple BT breaches in close succession to seriously threaten a group of four and they're far more at risk of friendly fire accidents and/or getting cocky than anything the bugs do.Not clumping up and exploiting the drop cooldown while running away from any called drop are good anti-bot tactics (because bots have tanks, rocket barrages, and are slower), so I'm not sure why you're describing them as special bug-only tactics the bot players won't know. I'm actually curious what 'bot tactics' you think people are doing that isn't working against the bugs. The only thing I can think of is engaging enemies 100+ meters away because bugs can't threaten you from that far and all it would do is draw aggro and activate bile spewers from annoying distances.
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Tom Tucker posted:Yeah I’ve done this a lot and it’s super fun but I don’t go anywhere on 7-9s anymore without something that can one-shot chargers and reliably kill a Titan. I tried to rely on a few orbitals or eagles or (shudder) teammates for it and always wind up dying. I've settled on always taking EATs with a second weapon, usually the Arc cannon, sometimes Quasar, sometimes GL. On bugs always Laser Dog too. Fourth slot goes to whatever I'm feeling which is often Orbital Rail or Eagle Airstrike. Always seems to work well. Strong Sauce posted:Speaking of MGs, on PS5 whenever you dive/crouch/prone and you hold a machine gun it seems to switch your weapon. So if I was holding the MG and I go prone it always switches me over to my primary. I haven't used one since the last patch but did they ever address or fix this? What? I'm on PS5 and the game has never done this. Have you remapped controls in some way? I've never heard of this before now and most of my friends are on PS5. BitBasher fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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It is the distant future, the year 2184? We are Helldivers. The world is very different ever since Managed Democracy was established. There is no more unhappiness (or else). We no longer say 'Yes', instead we say 'Yes Sir' (or else, Sir). There is only once kind of dance: the Dive-Flop. And oh yes, the Cape-Twirl. Two kinds of dances. Finally, democratic beings rule the world. The robots are dead. The robots are dead. We used perfidious tactics. And we slaughtered their asses. The robots are dead. (That's right they are dead!) The robots are dead. (They look like they're dead...) It had to be done. (SEAF'll confirm that they're dead.) So that we could kill bugs. Yes Sir, I dropped on one and it died.
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BitBasher posted:\ just tried. took the HMG and went prone. switched me to my primary. haven't changed any controls afaik
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Strong Sauce posted:just tried. took the HMG and went prone. switched me to my primary. haven't changed any controls afaik Maybe try resetting controls to default? I go prone all the time and it's never changed me weapons at all. Maybe accidentally hitting a second button with your thumb when double tapping the prone button? I've never heard anyone on Reddit or here mention it before, either. EDIT: I just checked, they don't even share a button in any way on the default keybindings. Crouch and dive are on single or double tap circle and change weapons is either tapping or holding Triangle. BitBasher fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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BitBasher posted:Maybe try resetting controls to default? I go prone all the time and it's never changed me weapons at all. Maybe accidentally hitting a second button with your thumb when double tapping the prone button? yo what the hell. my primary weapon was binded to circle. geez i just thought it was some weird quirk :| thanks!
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Strong Sauce posted:yo what the hell. my primary weapon was binded to circle. geez i just thought it was some weird quirk :| It happens! Glad it's fixed! That would be really annoying
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Darox posted:Baffling post. Bugs cannot use suppressing fire or launch missile barrages (yet higher lvl bugs can have a lot of bile spewers launching indirect fire, so they do have some forms of artillery
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Vague tactics talk. This is a weird one because I don't really know how to word it. I feel like I use very different tactics on bots v bugs but outside of 'use cover' for bots I feel like describing them sounds pretty similar. Sticking together and forming a firing line against bugs is pretty effective but so is spreading out and coming from all angles, it just kinda depends. Getting the bugs to charge into four helldivers will get them chunked up pretty quickly and you kinda want to be together so that chargers and bts are all facing the group so you can more effectively rocket them in the face. But having the bugs surrounded makes hunters and hive guards easier to deal with because you get around their defenses. With bots I feel like you always want to get multiple angles on them because the bots can have machine gun devastators that can lay down impressive suppressive fire, and you want to get behind tanks and hulks, and most of them stand around like idiots if they're taking fire from all sides. But when patrols start marching at you having more than one person take them head on usually takes them out pretty quickly, a group of nothing but raiders or even a medium sized group with a hulk and some devastators will fall real quick to a pack of helldivers all behind cover and facing them head on. Mostly I feel like tactics basically boil down to use cover for bots and never stop moving for bugs. And only bots have stuff you really want to rush asap like mortar and gunships bases, though quick striking POI or patrol bugs also goes a long way towards keeping things mobile and under control.
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I got matched on bug missions with the most dogshit partners who killed me twice in a row with bombing runs right when I redeployed and I left 19 samples way back away from where they ultimately fought three bugholes and ran out of reinforcements 
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Sagebrush posted:Reddit already gets pissed off to the point of teamkilling when people aren't playing on tHe mOsT cRiTICaL pLaNeT. Can you imagine what they'd be like if some people weren't even contributing to the war lol In 120 hours of playing I've been deliberately team killed exactly once and it had nothing to do with any strange fantasies people here have about reddit meta enforcers and cape despisers. I'm often left wondering if I'm playing a different game from reading posts here.
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the biggest issue with helldivers 2 atm is that there isn't an eagle laser strike or a laser turret so i have no fourth strategem to take alongside the scythe, dagger, laser canon, rover dog and orbital laser. feels like a serious oversight imo
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Janissary Hop posted:In 120 hours of playing I've been deliberately team killed exactly once and it had nothing to do with any strange fantasies people here have about reddit meta enforcers and cape despisers. I'm often left wondering if I'm playing a different game from reading posts here.
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turn off the TV posted:the biggest issue with helldivers 2 atm is that there isn't an eagle laser strike or a laser turret so i have no fourth strategem to take alongside the scythe, dagger, laser canon, rover dog and orbital laser. feels like a serious oversight imo The first game had a laser shotgun and it was glorious
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Darox posted:Baffling post. Bugs cannot use suppressing fire or launch missile barrages (yet If your team can't manage the alarm(s), you run to the next objective. You can snipe whatever bile titan or hunters make their way over. If the alarm spawns on objectives, you better hope you can wipe the breach asap. https://i.imgur.com/NPK97h0.mp4 vvvvvv HELL YES CelticPredator posted:got the only way to be sure achievement Risky Bisquick fucked around with this message at 07:30 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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there is no better game imo https://i.imgur.com/zOkIsd9.mp4 audio
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got the only way to be sure achievement https://i.imgur.com/NaTyBUA.mp4
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I am once again preaching the power of the autocannon sentry against bugs. I took down a breach with two titans in it from ~30m away by myself thanks to the quasar and sentry, just blasting them as they crawled out of the ground. It kills titans, it kills chargers, it kills spewers, it fucks everything.Radical 90s Wizard posted:higher lvl bugs can have a lot of bile spewers launching indirect fire, so they do have some forms of artillery
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Janissary Hop posted:In 120 hours of playing I've been deliberately team killed exactly once and it had nothing to do with any strange fantasies people here have about reddit meta enforcers and cape despisers. I'm often left wondering if I'm playing a different game from reading posts here. - I showed up late in a mission with orange armor on (+2 grenade medium). Since I looked the same as the fireteam leader, a duo confused me with him and shot me because I went to extraction at the behest of the group leader. Turns out that the other guy in my outfit had been haphazard with airstrikes, and the duo felt that the extract was premature and wanted to cancel it. Instead of telling anyone using voice they just shot me. Didn't really stop the extract, though. The duo left after that mission after lecturing me about why it was totally cool to shoot me a bunch. Original guy, foibles regarding airstrikes notwithstanding, ended up being a decent enough partner through a the rest of the ops. - A fresh faced player started his interaction with the entirety of our party by saying "im gonna say the gamer words." When that failed to get a rise out of anyone in the party, he started doing the CS:S special of pecking the back of his teammates with small arms fire to do small damage but not kill them outright. I pointed this out, and his friend who had been saddled with this human burden just shrugged and said "he's just kinda like that." His response was to full-on start screaming over voice. Muted him, shot him to put him in timeout, and went to another part of the map to do objectives. Every mission ended up having a secondary objective to dodge the shitter trying to randomly frag me, destroy my equipment, or steal my poo poo. Ended up crashing most of the way through the next mission.
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yeah autocannon sentry is good. but if its too close they'll go after it. also quasar not as fun to hit a charger with because if you miss a soft area you're kinda boned for a little bit. the autocannon gun at least gets more chances to hit something non-armored.
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LazyMaybe posted:one of the common secondary objectives is destroying rebel broadcasts telling other humans the truth about the bugs The truth about the bugs is that they hate freedom and democracy and need shooting to death (for thier own good.) Drone_Fragger fucked around with this message at 09:07 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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Tom Tucker posted:Yeah I’ve done this a lot and it’s super fun but I don’t go anywhere on 7-9s anymore without something that can one-shot chargers and reliably kill a Titan. I tried to rely on a few orbitals or eagles or (shudder) teammates for it and always wind up dying. I never leave home without the EAT pod for bugs. Being able to delete 2 - 3 chargers on demand or highly damage a BT even when you're maining a different support weapon is the bee's knees
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Personal shield generator: have they removed the slowdown protection from bile spitters? And did it ever offer fire damage protection? Just ran an all-fire build on Hellmire (Breaker Incendiary, Flamethrower, Incendiary Grenades) where I wasn't the host and, while it looked and felt amazing, I couldn't even kill trash bugs with the DoT - instead, they ran into my shield whilst on fire and killed me with it!  I was also getting slowed down a lot which was unexpected, unless something has changed. piano chimp fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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piano chimp posted:Personal shield generator: have they removed the slowdown protection from bile spitters? And did it ever offer fire damage protection? Shields (both personal and deployable) don't do anything to protect you from things within the shield. This is harder to achieve with the personal shield because of its size, but melee attacks can hit you if you run into them and spitters can slow you down if you stand still in the gas.
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As a former battlefield bad company 2 carl gustav enthusiast, I heartily endorse usage of the recoilless rifle against any and all targets regardless of suitability or target hardness. However popping chargers and titans will never not be funny. Agreed on the "ammo backpack should let anyone reload" idea. People wont pick it up to help unless youre really good friends with good teamwork as its their back spot.
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