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b-minus1 posted:I’ll have more to say late but man hals eod1 posts are so bad. He did not want to vote zoya It’s true, I didn’t really want to vote Zoya at that time
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Hal Incandenza posted:It’s true, I didn’t really want to vote Zoya at that time it's kind of a weird post, cuz he's saying it like as if i'm a flipped scum
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Apr 8, 2024 04:20
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i'd probably be kind of flustered too if i replaced in and realized the entire rest of the scumteam were also replacements though, tbf
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Philly in April Can be mighty cold I grabbed seven fun-sized Snickers as I exited the stadium Cody Rhodes (I think I did that right. I don't actually watch non-SAW wrestling, but that four-liner seems to be the joke.)
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Apr 8, 2024 04:27
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So we are where we were last day and over the same issue and the same people, just with one less possible liar. Awesome.
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Apr 8, 2024 05:14
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b-minus1 posted:I’ll have more to say late but man hals eod1 posts are so bad. He did not want to vote zoya If you want to do vote analysis, that'd be great, but as a note, for that day Clo/later beet was the scun flip. Many replacements ITT. Also, why mason Plas? Mostly curious here.
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Hmm. If it's binus + plastic, does a fake masonizing claim do anything? Not much really, since a watch or track still theoretically exist and can catch a lie there.
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Apr 8, 2024 05:50
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CubicalSucrose posted:Hmm. If it's binus + plastic, does a fake masonizing claim do anything? There is a world where Scum!Plastic really roleblocked Sand (and Sand attests to it) while Scum!binus got the mason fish and faked masonizing Plastic but did the kill. But that world has a hole: where is the stolen Zander?
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Apr 8, 2024 06:12
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I feel like you can spreadsheet possible pairs here pretty well, knowing we have an unaccounted for Zander and what people have claimed to do/have been found to have done.
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Shellception posted:There is a world where Scum!Plastic really roleblocked Sand (and Sand attests to it) while Scum!binus got the mason fish and faked masonizing Plastic but did the kill. (And in this map, if binus had the Zander instead, then a Whitefish and a Goldfish are lost - and that means way too many liars, so it's not viable)
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In fact, any scum pairing between two action-havers requires too many liars to work. Because if one of them didn't have the action they say they had (doc, watch, roleblock, track or mason), then that action is missing instead, and that goes back to one of the non-action claimers lying too, which ups the number to at least 4 scum. That's way too much for 13. So, the possibilities for two scum here are either an action haver + a non-action haver or two non-action havers. In both cases, we are looking at at least one scum in the Zoya/TMor/Hal group.
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Apr 8, 2024 07:01
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Apr 8, 2024 07:27
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Tired Moritz posted:i guess you can vote me off fish island but i legit dont know why people are talking about missing fish so Skipping the missing fish discussion, what are your overall reads of the game? We had a scum vote yesterday, surely something around who voted/didn't want to vote beet caught your attention?
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Apr 8, 2024 07:28
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Imo from looking at the actual flip, I'm sure that anyone that voted hambeet early has an actually higher chance of being scum
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Apr 8, 2024 07:34
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Gamestatus check: D3 6/2 goes to D4 MYLO 4/2 that can be no-voted on for a D5 3/2 YOLO. So, barring a vig or someone having either extra votes or a hated or loved, we can gently caress up two times before losing. For a pool of 3 suspects, that seems good odds, but loving up today means we have to hit scum mostly straight on for D4 or D5.
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Apr 8, 2024 07:35
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I believe in town. 
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Tired Moritz posted:Imo from looking at the actual flip, I'm sure that anyone that voted hambeet early has an actually higher chance of being scum If you had to pick someone in that early voters pool [Cube, Plas, Zoya, Sand, I guess? Because after Sand there was a big space of time with no votes] to vote, and given their other posts, where would you want to go?
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Zoya posted:
Can we have any thoughts of you re:game status that ain't replacement-related?
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Apr 8, 2024 07:43
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Would cube bus hambeet after watching Keats bus him for town cred which won him the game? Maybe Plastic is probably town Zoya is soooo evil you should stab Zoya imo I wouldnt kill sandwolf
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Apr 8, 2024 07:58
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Interesting. Why the townread on Plastic? Also, thoughts on Hal?
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Apr 8, 2024 08:09
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In fact on rereading Moritz I kind of have another question for you. Sorry for the focus buddy, just kinda want to clear my head.Tired Moritz posted:If hambeet flips town, then absolutely cube. If hambeet flips scum, then sand. Tired Moritz posted:Would cube bus hambeet after watching Keats bus him for town cred which won him the game? Maybe What changed from yesterday re: sandwolf?
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Zoya posted:hmm. so we know that the thefts happen prior to the judging, presumably in some kind of fishing twilight. the day ended, and i was ready to submit my beloved ZANDER, but was informed it had been stolen out from under me (at which point i staged a mild confessional tantrum in discord emotes). i then submitted 2 other fish, both of which were tiny and didn't even get 2nd place Ok, so, here. I need to know exactly which two fish you submitted, and the size. And the same thing goes for both Hal and TMor. But if possible, do it after Zoya does. Because seven fish, nine people. But the other two claim to have gotten second place prizes. And in fact, barring some specific combos of fish between you three... you kind of should have too. It's not impossible you didn't, mind you, but I'd like to know.
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Apr 8, 2024 11:15
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I’m not going to be able to post much today. But ##vote hal this feels right
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Apr 8, 2024 12:45
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Still think TMor makes the most sense to kill
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Apr 8, 2024 12:52
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Sandwolf posted:Still think TMor makes the most sense to kill I agree. But I've been burned by common sense logic before and we're not in a hurry. We can hear what everyone has to say.
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Idk if this has been discussed but does anyone else think it’s weird that scum didn’t kill Cube? Maerlyn seems likea strange choice
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I was originally thinking that scum Hal didn’t want to vote scum zoya, but now I’m not entirely sold on zoya being scum. So maybe Hal was just playing it safe by voting keats . The Scum team weren’t under any pressure so they didnt need his vote to ensure a town zoya lunch. But then the shift to Keats happened and he ended up voting the townie that got lunched. Whoops
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b-minus1 posted:Idk if this has been discussed but does anyone else think it’s weird that scum didn’t kill Cube? Maerlyn seems likea strange choice I think Maer was my solidest town read, but I'm also surprised at how little (none) suspicion she drew this time around. Usually when I townread her I kind of need to fend off scum!Maer arguments, this time I think no one even tried. So... yea, she was my bet for a kill apart from myself, but it's still a quite surprising kill. As to "why not Cube", hell knows. I do have thoughts, but none so formed as to be worth of sharing.
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Shellception posted:In fact on rereading Moritz I kind of have another question for you. Sorry for the focus buddy, just kinda want to clear my head. Sandwolf wouldn't be bad enough to defend hambeet
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b-minus1 posted:I was originally thinking that scum Hal didn’t want to vote scum zoya, but now I’m not entirely sold on zoya being scum. So maybe Hal was just playing it safe by voting keats . The Scum team weren’t under any pressure so they didnt need his vote to ensure a town zoya lunch. But then the shift to Keats happened and he ended up voting the townie that got lunched. Whoops Why don't you think it's scumZoya?
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CubicalSucrose posted:Why don't you think it's scumZoya? It’s not that I don’t think it’s scum zoya. I just feel better about my Hal read
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Other than my bad D1 vote what is your case on me binus? Binus replaced Schwinne, right? It's not OMGUS then to ##vote binus Would also be ok with TM based on the "some non-fish have must be scum" theory, or even Zoya who has gone from fairly quiet to a bit over the top today
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Shellception posted:Ok, so, here. I need to know exactly which two fish you submitted, and the size. And the same thing goes for both Hal and TMor. But if possible, do it after Zoya does. I am fine to do this but if you want Zoya to go first that's fine too. This is just for last night?
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Hal Incandenza posted:I am fine to do this but if you want Zoya to go first that's fine too. Yea, last night, I don't think previous night is going to tell us much. But I think letting her go first is better.
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If I need to "defend" my D1 not-vote of Zoya it's that Zoya was clearly busy IRL, wanted to have fun and gamble on Zanders like I did and with no real read of her I preferred to keep her around to have a rival for Zanders because that is more fun. Not that I don't enjoy Keats, but he was being a little weird and felt like a better D1 vote.
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Shellception posted:Ok, so, here. I need to know exactly which two fish you submitted, and the size. And the same thing goes for both Hal and TMor. But if possible, do it after Zoya does. i don't understand what this accomplishes, but 112g roach, 3275g salmon
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Hal Incandenza posted:Other than my bad D1 vote what is your case on me binus? i'd vote binus too, shwinne's posts were off and binus' havent been any better
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Zoya posted:i don't understand what this accomplishes, but It's a dumb thing, but I'm looking for a lie somewhere or other. Thanks for humoring me. Hal, Moritz? Mind doing the same?
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Zoya posted:i'd vote binus too, shwinne's posts were off and binus' havent been any better Agree. Coupled with the fact that binus has been not talking about TMor and instead pushing stuff on Hal feels like those are the last two scum imo. Kinda why I’m not posting much, all I feel I have rn is “vote moritz” and that’s not fun for anyone or moritz.
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I'm kinda eh on a binus vote... for now. If nothing else he is accounted for last night, and I'm not getting particularly scummy vibes from him (which doesn't mean I agree with his case, I kind of don't). Everyone needs to talk a lil bit more in general tbh.
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