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Fuligin posted:Stay on the highway goddamn what a dumb snipe. ___ Gonna post some content instead. Some more thoughts on Victoria 3: The agitator system seems rather useless from a player perspective. It really feels like you should be able to recruit an agitator to have them advance sentiment in favor of specific parties or laws that you want. Yes, random agitators showing up to stir up support for their own pet causes can throw a spanner into the works as a form of emergent gameplay, but there's nothing to tug on from the other direction where you as the player get to weaponize this. ___ The company system feels really vestigial. It's just a progress that fills up and gives you a bonus when it does. When I think of companies in this era, I think of the Royal Dutch Petroleum Company, or United Fruit, or Krupp and the beginnings of the military-industrial complex. If companies become large and powerful, they should have an influence on the country's political direction! ___ Despite all the posting about reverse-colonialism and state capitalism, I actually do like the economic system. It's not as intuitive as I would have liked, but once I did get it, there's a lot to grab onto. Beginning from logs and fabric to supply your Construction Sectors with what they need at the very first level of construction method, and then expanding outwards to make sure you're producing all of the necessary goods to feed into the later building types feels a lot like playing Workers & Resources at a very high level - extracting the raw materials, processing them, and then using that as a base to extract even more advanced inputs for even more advanced goods. It can get a bit cookie-clicker-ish, but I like cookie clicker, especially one with a lot of trappings and veneer to make you forget that it is one. ___ Having said all that, I do feel like the political dimension of the game can feel a bit too straightforward. When Victoria 3 released, I fired up a game of Victoria 2, as a sort of vicarious parallel ride-along to the hype. In that game, playing as Brazil, there had to be a liberal-lead revolution to overthrow the autocracy, and then some years later a communist revolution. Now, the civil wars instigated by these revolutions did not have to be fought: I simply had my armies abandon the capital and then the rebels capture it because I wanted them to succeed at their goals, but the civil wars did have to happen (and later revolts by fascists and anarcho-liberals were brutally crushed by the communist regime). I bring this up because I completely managed to avoid fighting any civil wars in this Philippine campaign in Victoria 3. I came close, but I managed to avoid it with the tools that the game gave me, to the extent that I was able to reform an autocratic governorate into a liberal democracy, and then a Soviet republic, without a single shot being fired. While I could have taken choices in the event pop-ups to trigger a civil war, I really feel like this is the sort of radical change that I shouldn't even be able to do peacefully.
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gradenko_2000 posted:The agitator system seems rather useless from a player perspective. It really feels like you should be able to recruit an agitator to have them advance sentiment in favor of specific parties or laws that you want. Yes, random agitators showing up to stir up support for their own pet causes can throw a spanner into the works as a form of emergent gameplay, but there's nothing to tug on from the other direction where you as the player get to weaponize this. You can, it's hidden in one of the tabs of the government UI. The thing is that the pool's anyone that has spawned elsewhere and been exiled, who's additionally an appropriate ethnicity (and religion if one's established) for your government.
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yeah so its still worthless
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You might as well have a "British Boarding Schools" focus, if we're accepting the premise that ritualized homoerotic abuse makes you 50% better at fighting.
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but do you LIKE like the spartans
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Sparta is definitely a top contender for ancient societies with vastly overblown reputations
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Endman posted:Sparta is definitely a top contender for ancient societies with vastly overblown reputations For real. I read "On Sparta" and I remember being blown away by how inept they were, militarily, politically, you name it -- dumbasses. Any here play Rust on PC? Not looking to go crazy, casual rust.
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did the Spartans keep doing their tourist trap larping stuff into late antiquity or did the usual cultural/societal transformations wipe that out
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what lovely mod is this lol
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FrancisFukyomama posted:did the Spartans keep doing their tourist trap larping stuff into late antiquity or did the usual cultural/societal transformations wipe that out they kept doing the LARP until at least the 200s AD, partly because the Romans deliberately encouraged and supported it so wealthy tourists could come gawk at them. they were still governed under the old system of government, with kings, ephors, etc. until well into late antiquity, although they didn’t really do anything notable around AD 400 the city was sacked by Goths and that was pretty much the end of it, although a small village continued to exist on the site
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Buck Wildman posted:but do you LIKE like the spartans "No one likes the Spartans. Even the people that worship them don't like them. From what I've seen of them they don't even like each other."
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is hex of steel any good
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Mister Bates posted:around AD 400 the city was sacked by Goths and that was pretty much the end of it, although a small village continued to exist on the site The wife of someone I know is from one of the "used to be Sparta" villages. She's 6 feet tall and blonde, so I don't think she's got a lot in common with ancient Spartans outside of her temper.  The history of that whole area is weird even afterwards. It was the site of a bunch of Slavic migrations, and after a bunch of wars and revolts (generally against imperial administration, rather than something targeting local Greeks), the Byzantines ended up deporting enormous numbers of Slavs to Asia Minor, bringing in settlers from as far as Armenia to replace them. my dad has issued a correction as of 16:05 on Apr 6, 2024 |
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seems like sparta was the us military of its time; big reputation, good at fighting people who can't really fight back, bad at fighting people who can
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The entire system was designed to produce people who could suppress the helots, it was not a good military system, per se.
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sparta is just old israel, they got the over inflated sense of military dominance, the actual focus of the army on subjugating a population that their economy relies on, and support from right wingers who don't really understand history.
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Ardent Communist posted:sparta is just old israel, they got the over inflated sense of military dominance, the actual focus of the army on subjugating a population that their economy relies on, and support from right wingers who don't really understand history. Also their biggest victory was the result of being heavily subsided by a bigger empire to do their dirty work.
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Someone on a discord encountered one of the dominions clown mod's heroes for the first time, and posted the screenshot of his appearance: Remains one of my favorite bits of writing in anything dominions related.
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the clown factionn is incredible I agree
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Mister Bates posted:they kept doing the LARP until at least the 200s AD, partly because the Romans deliberately encouraged and supported it so wealthy tourists could come gawk at them. Goths rule
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1 air magic, 1 water magic, 2 astral magic, and 3 sacred magic? lmao
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And 3 randoms.
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kirkostaculis is a legit threat you will absolutely hate those ancient clowns if you have to fight them
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i already learned that from playing space station 13
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my dad posted:Someone on a discord encountered one of the dominions clown mod's heroes for the first time, and posted the screenshot of his appearance: activate windows
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I have been playing a bit of the Meiou and Taxes mod. Send help;
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Tankbuster posted:I have been playing a bit of the Meiou and Taxes mod. Send help; Do you have all of the EUIV DLC?
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All the relevant ones. Later ones were primarily flavorpacks that won't work with the mod. I got a handle on centralizing the state and the culture conversion mechanics are really cool.
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Zeppelin Insanity posted:What do you say, thread? Do we confront NATO head-on now, while we're certain of superior numbers and artillery support, or risk a major deviation from the plan and rush to Bamberg via the southern route? Punch 'em in the dick! T-80 tidal wave, and smash them with rockets and shells!
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Megamissen posted:activate windows
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It says the only winning move is not to play, right?
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the only winning move is to play as the pavn
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Tankbuster posted:I have been playing a bit of the Meiou and Taxes mod. Send help; I'm trying to learn unmodded EU4 myself. I'm about 40 years into a run as Portugal, having taken Tangiers from Morocco and now starting on the colonization of the Caribbean - Martinique has been developed into a full-fledged colony, and I've just landed conquistadores on Jamaica. I sort of regret that it took me this long to finally get it to click, but I'm enjoying the ride.
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In Meiou and Taxes, Portugal is incentivized to go east, rather than west. You'll do better securing the India trade, coast of West Africa and Indian Ocean/Red Sea, than trying to compete with the Spanish for the Americas, outside of some islands if you can get them, and Brazil.
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Mantis42 posted:It's looking like EUV is going to pull a lot of inspiration from MEIOU I'm impressed so far 
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let's go POPs love da POPs EDIT: I got hit by the Treaty of Tordesillas! How dare!!! gradenko_2000 has issued a correction as of 13:15 on Apr 8, 2024 |
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