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PetraCore posted:I suspect they're cutting out the youngest generation entirely because they'd all be like ages 0-5 during this time frame to make things work. Linton definitely got merged with Edgar, because Edgar's issues with his body are pulled straight from Linton and how he develops... I'm not even going to call it a complex in the book. Seeing your mother die of illness and knowing your body isn't holding up and you're also dying as your father berates you and only one person cares to try and help you with your physical problems veers past having a complex and straight into medical neglect. But, you know. Linton Edgar here seems to share a lot of that. Linton did say that he and Catherine built a family together, so it's possible that there's a child around somewhere. After all, we still don't really know what he wants out of this. If Hareton exists, then he's likely Linton's older brother, if that's not genderswapped Isabelle. As for the age issue, maybe kids in T-Corp get thrown in a time capsule and forcibly aged up past infancy. LostRook fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Apr 6, 2024 |
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LostRook posted:As for the age issue, maybe kids in T-Corp get thrown in a time capsule and forcibly aged up past infancy. Ah, yes, the Fire Emblem: Fates approach to child-rearing 
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LostRook posted:Linton did say that he and Catherine built a family together, so it's possible that there's a child around somewhere. After all, we still don't really know what he wants out of this. I mean, I don't think it's particularly relevant to anything, I just thought it was funny. Gregor Edgar mentions a little sister Mirror Heathcliff took away from him, which I assume is a reference to what happened to Isabella in the book as well as to the fact Gregor iirc canonically has a younger sister both in Metamorphosis and in Limbus. So it's interesting to think Hareton might be an older brother of Linton's that hosed off, but that'd be a little weird to me because Hareton is the only second generation character with no actual relation to the Linton family. I was wondering instead if some of Hareton's character got folded into Heathcliff and some of Cathy Jr's character got folded into Catherine to match Linton, because Linton setting up Heathcliff for punishment is something Edgar never actually does to Heathcliff in the book except by accident one time but Linton absolutely deliberately does that to Hareton. EDIT: I am definitely hoping for genderswapped Isabella, though.
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PetraCore posted:Funnily enough, Limbus Catherine physically resembles Catherine Jr more than Catherine Earnshaw, being blonde with dark brown eyes instead of having dark wavy hair. It's hard to fully tell with the muted colors, but I think Limbus Cathy and Hindley are closer to being dirty blond than the golden-pale blonde Cathy Jr has in the book, though. Oh yeah, the blonde thing is funny. It's possible it's part of a narrative shell-game, and might mean the color tint is more than just aesthetic. Heathcliff?'s corpse has blonde hair after all. With the "I am Heathcliff" stuff that Limbus has alluded to a little bit, it's possible that the person being possessed was Catherine. Which would mean the person in the coffin device is either the created person from the experiment, an ID, or an aged-up Cathy Jr. The color correcting could be a way to cover-up the difference in hair color. Of course, having Heathcliff literally kill Catherine would be a bit convoluted and remarkably cruel narrative decision even by Project Moon standards, so who knows if they'll go there.
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Just loving realized something awful. R Corp Heathcliff was loving foreshadowing. Dead Rabbits, yeah, obvious quick one, but also: Fighting a million clones of yourself.
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Junpei posted:Just loving realized something awful.  (I'm sorry)
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LostRook posted:Oh yeah, the blonde thing is funny. It's possible it's part of a narrative shell-game, and might mean the color tint is more than just aesthetic.
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I think you guys have gone like 5 layers deeper than you need to on this one e: no ID this week huh, at least I can get exp tickets again e2: story wise imo the most interesting character Thing was that rather than him murdering someone the Body Bag was Heathcliff's all along as a metaphor for how he views himself. oof. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 01:40 on Apr 7, 2024 |
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Yinlock posted:
Is that true? From reading Dead Rabbit Meursault's story where he's tasked to kill somebody, put them in a sack, and bring them back, I thought it was the representation of 'people he's killed in an attempt to prove himself worthy of Cathy', which additionally makes sense in it being Envy and turning Wrath in 6-34. Him being the bodysack doesn't really fit with the use line unless he's a cannibal or something.
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PetraCore posted:Huh... didn't Linton mention something about an older brother that left...? You don't think Mirror Heathcliff got put in him, do you? Super doubt. Given Don latching on to the Edgar family name a little bit, we've probably met the eldest Edgar brother in Distortion Detective. He went by Edgar, a grade 1 Fixer with the major crimes unit of Zwei Section 1, South Branch, which Moses notes means he's something of a big deal.
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RandomReader posted:Super doubt. Given Don latching on to the Edgar family name a little bit, we've probably met the eldest Edgar brother in Distortion Detective. He went by Edgar, a grade 1 Fixer with the major crimes unit of Zwei Section 1, South Branch, which Moses notes means he's something of a big deal. It will also explain why Linton would think that his brother will be very angry if he found out what Linton did, considering that he likely collaborated with former Ring members.
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RandomReader posted:Super doubt. Given Don latching on to the Edgar family name a little bit, we've probably met the eldest Edgar brother in Distortion Detective. He went by Edgar, a grade 1 Fixer with the major crimes unit of Zwei Section 1, South Branch, which Moses notes means he's something of a big deal. Anyway Edgar being Linton's older brother would make a lot of sense and also be hilariously uncomfortable for, as pointed out, the many many horrible crimes Linton is colluding with in the name of love. Yinlock posted:I think you guys have gone like 5 layers deeper than you need to on this one
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Numbus26 posted:Is that true? From reading Dead Rabbit Meursault's story where he's tasked to kill somebody, put them in a sack, and bring them back, I thought it was the representation of 'people he's killed in an attempt to prove himself worthy of Cathy', which additionally makes sense in it being Envy and turning Wrath in 6-34. Him being the bodysack doesn't really fit with the use line unless he's a cannibal or something. PetraCore posted:I like going 5 layers too deep for fun, I don't actually think Catherine not being fully book accurate in appearance means anything, given she's also not an engineer and inventor in the book, either. I figured with [spoiler]Body Bag, the important thing is that's probably the very first murder Heathcliff ever committed given that he was brought into Wuthering Heights as a scrawny child, so it's symbolic of the costs and stains that have built up on himself and other people in order to fuel his ambitions (Catherine). Like, he did the murder without question or hesitation, but it's still a loss of innocence, if that makes sense? when he's Distorting he basically refers to himself as a bodysack on the side of the road at one point. IMO "you'll get shoved in this bag too" is Heathcliff resolving to drag the enemy down into the gutters with him, It represents his bitterness against an unfair world and desire to lash out and make everyone else as miserable as he is, it's all extremely (literary)Heathcliff and basically his self-destructive impulses made manifest. Yinlock fucked around with this message at 13:42 on Apr 7, 2024 |
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Side note to all this major plot talk, but I wanna give Don Quixote credit: Her moment of self-awareness where she asks the 'Oufi Fixers' what's going on and straight up says "I know I have a reputation for being ignorant" was really interesting. I know Cantos tend to focus on the sinners in question, but there almost always is some side progression for others. Hell, Heathcliff got a solid amount of development in 5 to set up 6, and given Don and Hong Lu are next, their extra moments here and there are shining through.
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Junpei posted:Side note to all this major plot talk, but I wanna give Don Quixote credit: Her moment of self-awareness where she asks the 'Oufi Fixers' what's going on and straight up says "I know I have a reputation for being ignorant" was really interesting. I know Cantos tend to focus on the sinners in question, but there almost always is some side progression for others. Hell, Heathcliff got a solid amount of development in 5 to set up 6, and given Don and Hong Lu are next, their extra moments here and there are shining through. What level was that on? I thought she was showing her knowledge this Canto, with knowing about the Butlers and the various qualities they have. If you want to know about various Fixers, offices, and associations, Don probably knows something, even if it is heavily distorted.
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Ep. 27 in the Theater of this Canto.
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KobunFan posted:What level was that on? I thought she was showing her knowledge this Canto, with knowing about the Butlers and the various qualities they have. If you want to know about various Fixers, offices, and associations, Don probably knows something, even if it is heavily distorted.
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Meanwhile I'm still pretty sure that Cathy's parents are going to play a role, between the already-mentioned elements of the second generation our characters have, that it's more than a little sus that Mr. Earnshaw just picked up one random homeless kid out of all the homeless kids in the Backstreets, and everything about the fact that Cathy's mom was apparently the first one to start loving with the basement and Josephine thinks that she can talk to her ghost. Which might have been the ghost Cathy saw as a kid? It's of course very possible that Josephine is just crazy. Though I don't think she's hearing Carmen, given the bit after her fight where she says the Mistress told her to stop fighting Limbus Company and go clear out the Dead Rabbits-something that Carmen would have no reason to do.
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Huh read a post on reddit about Don and how she's basically a soloist in all her identities but what was really interested was that they showed how Don's combat sprite shows a different name on her jacket than her normal portrait sprite. Now this isn't just a Don thing since iirc some other Sinners have off combat sprites but I find it really interesting in combat Don's outfit says Miguel which is radically different from Don Quixote. The name Miguel shows up in the story of Don in one prominent place, the cover showing the author's name. So Don's battle sprite implies her 'true' name is Miguel de Cervantes the author of the of Don Quixote. What gets even more interesting is that in the play 'Man of La Mancha' where the Impossible Dream theme comes from the play starts with Miguel on trial putting on a play with other prisoners. Miguel takes the role of Alonso Quijano the main character of the play who himself takes the role and name of Don Quixote. So that makes an interesting question of who is Limbus's Don. Is she the true Don Quixote a 'knight' fighting for chivalry and ideals? Is she Alonso Quijano someone deluded and mad fighting for an Impossible Dream that never existed? Or is she Miguel de Cervantes putting on a play? Just feels this 3 way divide will play a huge part in Don's Canto.
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NotteBoy97 posted:Huh read a post on reddit about Don and how she's basically a soloist in all her identities but what was really interested was that they showed how Don's combat sprite shows a different name on her jacket than her normal portrait sprite. Now this isn't just a Don thing since iirc some other Sinners have off combat sprites but I find it really interesting in combat Don's outfit says Miguel which is radically different from Don Quixote. The name Miguel shows up in the story of Don in one prominent place, the cover showing the author's name. So Don's battle sprite implies her 'true' name is Miguel de Cervantes the author of the of Don Quixote.
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new exp lux after finishing the canto next update so uh hold off on those until then if you've already got a maxed team of some kind
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Yinlock posted:new exp lux after finishing the canto next update so uh hold off on those until then if you've already got a maxed team of some kind
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I don't know what's better, Maid Ryoshu or the chance we see Nelly kick rear end in Part 3. Imagine if she replaces Heathcliff for some part of the story.
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The Edgar family Butlers are literally meidos that throw knives at you. There was exactly 0% chance of not getting them as identities.
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GilliamYaeger posted:And here I was, starting to worry that we wouldn't get anything this week I wonder if it'll be this week or next since we usually get the lil quote right after an update rather than this late in the week
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After going over the observation logs, I noticed that when talking about the Peccatulum, Sinclair mentions he had seen the type of gaze of the Lust one before, obviously referring to Kromer. The only other one who mentions something like that is Mersault, who mentions that sinking feeling from the Gloom type makes him remember the past. Guessing his boss will be gloom-based, though I wonder what character it will be.
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KobunFan posted:After going over the observation logs, I noticed that when talking about the Peccatulum, Sinclair mentions he had seen the type of gaze of the Lust one before, obviously referring to Kromer. The only other one who mentions something like that is Mersault, who mentions that sinking feeling from the Gloom type makes him remember the past. Guessing his boss will be gloom-based, though I wonder what character it will be. it's a notepad containing somewhat unclear instructions
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KobunFan posted:After going over the observation logs, I noticed that when talking about the Peccatulum, Sinclair mentions he had seen the type of gaze of the Lust one before, obviously referring to Kromer. The only other one who mentions something like that is Mersault, who mentions that sinking feeling from the Gloom type makes him remember the past. Guessing his boss will be gloom-based, though I wonder what character it will be. I maintain his mother, he's seen something like a distortion before, the Story of The Stranger involves the death of Meursault's Mother, and specifically the trailer for Meursault has an incorrect quote from the novel. "I killed mother today, or perhaps it was yesterday." (The original is Mother died today). Meursault's Mother being the villain of his canto, or at least the boss, seems highly likely.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I maintain his mother, he's seen something like a distortion before, the Story of The Stranger involves the death of Meursault's Mother, and specifically the trailer for Meursault has an incorrect quote from the novel. "I killed mother today, or perhaps it was yesterday." (The original is Mother died today). To a lesser extent he also notes that Outis shouting at Don and Heathcliff reminds him of how his mother used to scold him, which seems like a bad sign for Madame Salt's temper.
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Lord_Magmar posted:I maintain his mother, he's seen something like a distortion before, the Story of The Stranger involves the death of Meursault's Mother, and specifically the trailer for Meursault has an incorrect quote from the novel. "I killed mother today, or perhaps it was yesterday." (The original is Mother died today). her being dead would interfere with this somewhat
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Yinlock posted:her being dead would interfere with this somewhat We're currently experiencing a story where one of the antagonistic forces appears to be a mostly dead woman related to a Sinner's History.
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Furthermore we've seen that resonance with the Golden Bough causes one's mental landscape to materialize in reality. X faced alternate versions of himself in Architecture, half of which were antagonistic towards him, and Greg had to face dead war buddies and a giant version of Hermann. It wouldn't be a surprise to see Meursault's memory of his mother come to life as an antagonistic force if his chapter leads to another Bough resonance.
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Happy new Mili song day, everyone!
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GilliamYaeger posted:And here I was, starting to worry that we wouldn't get anything this week Still no new extraction announced, I don't think we're getting her until the next week.
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Aumanor posted:Still no new extraction announced, I don't think we're getting her until the next week. It is always released on Thursday.
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Aumanor posted:Still no new extraction announced, I don't think we're getting her until the next week.
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