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GD_American posted:https://twitter.com/sweatystartup/status/1773025879259480297 An old can too. Isn't current branding red background and gold lettering for caffeine free?
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# ? May 21, 2024 17:58 |
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stratego posted:It's a release that r/bourbon's t8ke worked on with Barrell Craft Spirits. Out of curiosity the other stuff on that site seems awesome (aficionado group) mezcal bottles, are those worthwhile?
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 00:12 |
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adnam posted:Out of curiosity the other stuff on that site seems awesome (aficionado group) mezcal bottles, are those worthwhile? T8ke (Jay, from whisky raiders), also runs the aficionados group for tequila/mezcal releases. Bring from Wisconsin his first love is brandy, but he also loves agave spirits. He partners with shared pour to sell/distribute stuff. You should check out his YouTube channel. And check out the aficionados group site - he will alert you about upcoming releases, if you're inclined. Aficionados group website He's a tremendous guy, responds to emails creepily fast. I haven't tried many of those releases, but I trust his pallet and tasting notes.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 00:23 |
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I've met him at a couple local events and he's a great guy. We also have similar tastes in bourbon so his picks have been great for me.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 01:15 |
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stratego posted:T8ke (Jay, from whisky raiders), also runs the aficionados group for tequila/mezcal releases. Bring from Wisconsin his first love is brandy, but he also loves agave spirits. He partners with shared pour to sell/distribute stuff. You should check out his YouTube channel. Thank you! I’ve only got lovely chain stores with terrible prices and selection so I’m thinking about buying more online so this helps a lot.
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# ? Mar 29, 2024 19:11 |
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A friend gave me a bottle of Oban - Distiller's Edition for my birthday and it's really excellent, well balanced and interesting. It's the first time I've read the tasting notes/description and agreed with everything they said and tasted everything they called out.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 05:01 |
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Oban is great. Nicely balanced between the salty spray coastal note and the fruity orange marmalade notes. Normally I don't bother with the Diageo annual special releases (those are separate from the distiller's editions) because they're ridiculously expensive for what they are but I managed to snag a 2021 special edition for a
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 09:54 |
Friend's dad decided to open a bottle of Royal Salute 21 year...and I couldn't get any tasting notes at all out of it. Smooth to the point of boring. What's this supposed to be? What is it even blended from?
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 12:17 |
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Thats the point of those type of blends. To be "smooth" and inoffensive. Blue Label is the same.
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 12:36 |
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spankmeister posted:Thats the point of those type of blends. To be "smooth" and inoffensive. Blue Label is the same. That’s got to be the point…expensive Scotch for people that don’t really like Scotch but don’t want to be thought of as “unmasculine.”
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# ? Apr 7, 2024 20:42 |
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DerekSmartymans posted:That’s got to be the point…expensive Scotch for people that don’t really like Scotch but don’t want to be thought of as “unmasculine.” Well aged blended whiskies are a different beast than single malts, and the popularity of single malts as a category is about forty years old, due to overproduction in the industry post WWII— before the "whiskey loch" oversupply of the 70's, blended Scotch was considered the finer product, as it had depth and complexity from using whiskey from multiple distilleries. Single Malt as a distinct product was a reaction to the oversupply, and successfully rebranded the category. As for whether one is more "masculine" than the other; the gently caress out of here. The best tasters in whisk(e)y I know are women.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 15:26 |
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Also, the spirit you drink for performative masculinity is clearly Jack Daniels. Scotch is expensive snob juice from Yerp.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 16:06 |
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sean10mm posted:Also, the spirit you drink for performative masculinity is clearly Jack Daniels. Scotch is expensive snob juice from Yerp. Ah, but performative masculinity exists at all class levels. Gotta serve every segment of the market.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 16:38 |
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People like what they like and that's fine. If you like a super premium high end blend, more power to you. Invariably though when I see people drinking those types of blends, it's either someone who doesn't drink scotch all that often, and isn't super informed and they want to treat themselves, or it's a person who doesn't know the first thing about quality spirits, and is just being pretentious. I can count the number of people I've met that both know about whisky and are not utterly disappointed by the likes of Blue Label on one hand. I do want to stress that blended scotch is not by definition inferior to single malt. There are some excellent blends out there. Compass Box makes some fantastic stuff. More recently companies like Turntable and Thompson Brothers came on the scene and their blends are excellent as well.
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 17:24 |
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bloody ghost titty posted:As for whether one is more "masculine" than the other; the gently caress out of here. The best tasters in whisk(e)y I know are women. I wasn’t saying I agreed, hence the quotation marks. Some (especially younger) guys have it in their head that the only acceptable thing to drink is bourbon or Scotch, even though if they were honest they hate it. I think that’s silly. Agreed on the whiskey tasters, too…my son drinks fruity drinks with umbrellas while his half-pint girlfriend drinks Scotch with me. Life’s too short not to drink what you really enjoy!
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# ? Apr 8, 2024 23:04 |
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DerekSmartymans posted:I wasn’t saying I agreed, hence the quotation marks. Some (especially younger) guys have it in their head that the only acceptable thing to drink is bourbon or Scotch, even though if they were honest they hate it. I think that’s silly. & I walked back some choice invectives related to bud light and lifted trucks because I thought better of assuming a SA poster of 20 years was gonna up and show their rear end about single malts. Man, also I love me some umbrella drinks. Reminds me I gotta write a quick how-to on that before boating season really kicks up. Problem is whiskey wasn't a big player in that milieu; outside of a monkey gland, I really can't think of much.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 02:28 |
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spankmeister posted:People like what they like and that's fine. If you like a super premium high end blend, more power to you. I was deployed overseas a few years back and the O-Club had Blue Label for $20/pour so I figured why the hell not. I had had enough Scotch experience and Johnnie experience to know to expect all the character to be blended out. So it wasn't disappointing. I'm genuinely glad I had the opportunity to try it. It wasn't bad at all but it's almost paradoxical to have something both flawless and uninteresting. It's like a generative AI image of a beautiful blonde woman. You can't pick anything at all wrong with it but by the exact same token you can't describe anything compelling because it's so perfect at having no unique identity.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 02:59 |
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bloody ghost titty posted:& I walked back some choice invectives related to bud light and lifted trucks because I thought better of assuming a SA poster of 20 years was gonna up and show their rear end about single malts. it doesn't typically get an umbrella, but you could certainly add one to the classic Caribbean combo of Scotch + coconut water, rocks. i was really surprised how good it was when i tried it a summer or two ago. use really great coconut water (Harmless Harvest is the best I found) and not-so-great smoky blended Scotch for the best effect.
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# ? Apr 9, 2024 15:50 |
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Haven't posted here in a bit but FYI for CA goons, K&L has a barrel pick, cask strength Elijah Craig in at the moment as well as the barrel proof Jack Daniels Rye (I've been trying to find the latter for some time now). https://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=1516267 https://www.klwines.com/p/i?i=1743897
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# ? Apr 26, 2024 04:13 |
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Moved to Germany this year and given what is available, looking to get into scotch a little more. Any recommendations on scotch for someone who likes the vanilla/oak of bourbon, a little heat, but isn't really into any more than a real hint of peat?
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# ? Apr 28, 2024 19:43 |
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the yellow dart posted:Moved to Germany this year and given what is available, looking to get into scotch a little more. Any recommendations on scotch for someone who likes the vanilla/oak of bourbon, a little heat, but isn't really into any more than a real hint of peat? Try a Macallan and report back.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 02:47 |
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the yellow dart posted:Moved to Germany this year and given what is available, looking to get into scotch a little more. Any recommendations on scotch for someone who likes the vanilla/oak of bourbon, a little heat, but isn't really into any more than a real hint of peat? Dr. Lunchables posted:Try a Macallan and report back. Because OP mentioned liking bourbon, oaky/spicy big flavors and even a little heat I would recommend against Macallan. Macallan has a great aroma (smell) but on the palate it always underdelivers. It's thin and lacking in flavor. As an introductory Scotch this wouldn't be so bad were it not for the price. Macallan is extremely overpriced. I think a bourbon drinker will be disappointed by the lack of flavor and body. By all means try a sample but I recommend against buying a full bottle. Something I would suggest trying is Kilkerran 12, it's got the big oaky flavors, and is generally well regarded by experienced drinkers and newcomers alike. Does have a wisp of smoke but nothing to worry about I think. Production and thus availability is somewhat limited but recently that settled down a bit I think. You'll be hunting a little or paying a bit over MSRP but that's nothing new for bourbon drinkers right? Another good option is Arran 10. It has a bit more character from the distillate than from the casks, so it tends a bit more fruity than oaky, but it's well balanced and rich in flavor. Also one that's liked by new and experienced drinkers alike. This one is readily available and very affordable. Cheap even. If you like oaky flavors the Loch Lomond 18 is one of the best value 18 year olds on the market. It's got fruity notes without leaning too much into sherry and it's got oak for days. For a more sherry-forward whisky, one that's got that european oak spice but is well balanced the Speyburn 15 is an excellent choice that's still a bit under the radar. Doesn't have a lot of the bourbon vanilla's but goes more towards the baking spices, walnuts, dried fruit, etc. The 18 is good too and leans a bit more into the oak spice and I really like it too but it's hard for me to say that it's actually better than the 15. Okay that's enough for now I think. Hope this helps! It's nice to make recommendations for someone in Europe finally, since I know pricing and availability a lot better. One last piece of advice is that I would recommend finding a local specialist shop that knows their business, and have a chat with them. Go to some tastings. Find out what you like!
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 08:20 |
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Since you’re in Germany I can recommend the forums on whisky.de - there‘s a few whiskey nuts who will sell samples of their whiskies at cost.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 11:57 |
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I absolutely love Redbreast (cask strength preferably), that may be available in the EU as easily as Scotch. I wouldn't say it's oaky, it's more grassy and oily, with some stonefruit and honey flavors.
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# ? Apr 29, 2024 16:52 |
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Infinite Karma posted:I absolutely love Redbreast (cask strength preferably), that may be available in the EU as easily as Scotch. They recently hiked the price of Redbreast 12 CS (at least in the US). It's over $100 now. Awful.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 00:43 |
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is chivas regal supposed to taste like... liquid smoke?
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 01:10 |
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The Chad Jihad posted:is chivas regal supposed to taste like... liquid smoke? Nor really no, you're probably just sensitive to smoke, some people have that.
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 05:55 |
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spankmeister posted:Because OP mentioned liking bourbon, oaky/spicy big flavors and even a little heat I would recommend against Macallan. Macallan has a great aroma (smell) but on the palate it always underdelivers. It's thin and lacking in flavor. As an introductory Scotch this wouldn't be so bad were it not for the price. Macallan is extremely overpriced. I think a bourbon drinker will be disappointed by the lack of flavor and body. By all means try a sample but I recommend against buying a full bottle. Appreciate all the info, thanks! Was planning on hitting a specialty shop up weekend after next, I'll have to keep the Arran /Speyburn/Loch Lomond front of mind (I have drunk plenty of McCallan and Glenmoragie)
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 11:13 |
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spankmeister posted:Nor really no, you're probably just sensitive to smoke, some people have that. drat. Alright I'll keep sipping it, hopefully build up my resistance/perspective
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 17:16 |
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the yellow dart posted:Appreciate all the info, thanks! Was planning on hitting a specialty shop up weekend after next, I'll have to keep the Arran /Speyburn/Loch Lomond front of mind (I have drunk plenty of McCallan and Glenmoragie) No worries. Just know that these are but a few suggestions. There's so much good stuff out there. Good luck on your journey!
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# ? Apr 30, 2024 19:11 |
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Did Heaven Hill reverse the decision to make EW single barrel available only in Kentucky? I found some at a local store yesterday and the label says it was bottled in February so I know it's not old stock, but I'm not finding anything recent about them selling it outside of Kentucky again and the guy there didn't know anything. The price might've gone up a couple bucks, but it was still less than $40 for a 9-year-old single barrel.
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# ? May 5, 2024 19:25 |
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I got some of it locally in the northeast this weekend as well. Also was able to pick up a bottle of Blanton’s Gold which I’ve never had before and excited to try out. I had the opportunity to get a Heaven Hill 18 at cost but picked getting a free Yeti-like cooler when my name was pulled from the raffle instead.
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# ? May 6, 2024 11:10 |
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ElectricRelaxation posted:Did Heaven Hill reverse the decision to make EW single barrel available only in Kentucky? I found some at a local store yesterday and the label says it was bottled in February so I know it's not old stock, but I'm not finding anything recent about them selling it outside of Kentucky again and the guy there didn't know anything. The price might've gone up a couple bucks, but it was still less than $40 for a 9-year-old single barrel. I can’t say with certainty but it’s not uncommon for allocated items in one state that aren’t selling to get shipped to another where there’s demand. So if it was a particularly soft year for HH, and their buyout package for Union bottlers on the table indicates it was, they may soften the “KY only” policy and transship it to help make the numbers right in territory B.
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# ? May 6, 2024 14:06 |
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bloody ghost titty posted:I can’t say with certainty but it’s not uncommon for allocated items in one state that aren’t selling to get shipped to another where there’s demand. So if it was a particularly soft year for HH, and their buyout package for Union bottlers on the table indicates it was, they may soften the “KY only” policy and transship it to help make the numbers right in territory B. Ah, that makes sense. So I don't know much about how alcohol distribution works, do distillers have to get each different product approved before they can sell it in a state? And if so, with something like this would they have to go back to each state's liquor board and get approval again? I guess I don't see EWSB as an allocated bourbon, so it seems both interesting and weird to me for them to limit their own sales for something that seemed fairly well thought of. I suppose it could've been eating into their own market share of Elijah Craig, but like I said, I don't really understand much of the logistical end of the whole industry.
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# ? May 6, 2024 21:57 |
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ElectricRelaxation posted:Ah, that makes sense…like I said, I don't really understand much of the logistical end of the whole industry. If anyone tells you they do outside of their own specific purview they are selling you a b2b service you could do yourself.
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# ? May 6, 2024 22:27 |
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ElectricRelaxation posted:Ah, that makes sense. So I don't know much about how alcohol distribution works, do distillers have to get each different product approved before they can sell it in a state? And if so, with something like this would they have to go back to each state's liquor board and get approval again? I guess I don't see EWSB as an allocated bourbon, so it seems both interesting and weird to me for them to limit their own sales for something that seemed fairly well thought of. I suppose it could've been eating into their own market share of Elijah Craig, but like I said, I don't really understand much of the logistical end of the whole industry. I don't think the distillers have to get products approved, but there are way more distillers than distributors, it's bad business, not legal loopholes.
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# ? May 7, 2024 01:02 |
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Infinite Karma posted:From what I understand, it's a very broken system…it's bad business, not legal loopholes. If by “broken” and “bad” you mean arcane to the point of engineered inefficiencies, yes. Here “loopholes” can be understood as “there’s a patchwork so disparate and dynamic that it defies taxonomy”. I wrote that as “taconomy” first and I wish it stood. There was a year between the repeal of the Volstead act and the end of prohibition, which was designed to remand the right and authority back to each state to regulate alcohol as they saw fit. Some states said “alright come on in” and aligned with what we understand as the three-tier system, where a middleman is required by law to purchase and distribute the goods from the manufacturer to the end customer, whether they are intended for consumption on-premise or off. Others had the state as the purchasing agent from manufacturers and distributing to the end consumer via state-controlled stores, commonly known as ABCs in the South, package stores in the Northeast, and the Midwest gets weird. Often these breakdowns occurred in places with strong Christian moralist traditions. The longer answer to “why don’t the biggest economies have access to the finest/rarest/my favorite goods” is more multi-variable and has to do with the minutiae of pricing the goods from the bill of lading to the end consumer, but that’s another night.
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# ? May 7, 2024 03:40 |
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Looking for a couple of goon recommendations on decent to good whiskey preferably bourbons but I'm looking to restock my booze cabinet.
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# ? May 14, 2024 23:40 |
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Price point? What do you already like?
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:21 |
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# ? May 21, 2024 17:58 |
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bloody ghost titty posted:Price point? What do you already like? Uh makers mark, Bulliet, knobs creek? I'm not too fancy.
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# ? May 15, 2024 00:31 |