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hbag
Feb 13, 2021

spankmeister posted:

don't run fedora if you're not willing to upgrade it every 6mo, year tops.

who said i wasnt willing

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other people
Jun 27, 2004
Associate Christ

hbag posted:

who said i wasnt willing

There are probably much smarter ways but I would just uninstall that openvpn3 package, do the upgrade, then reinstall it afterwards.

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

this is the plan but first i need to make sure that package isnt somehow needed to keep the OS from making GBS threads itself and dying

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
it's not. just upgrade it goddamn

we don't want another 25 posts about how openvpn is blocking an upgrade you should have done a year ago

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

this thread is truly the Linux experience

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Captain Foo posted:

this thread is truly the Linux experience

Works for me!(TM)

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






hbag posted:

this is the plan but first i need to make sure that package isnt somehow needed to keep the OS from making GBS threads itself and dying

nah, just back up the configs and uninstall, then reinstall after upgrading. make sure to jump to the latest version and not just the next one, so that you won't just run into the same issue in half a year (the fedora release cycle) this may require multiple upgrades.

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
they say "Operating systems are pets, containers are cattle" but the reality is that operating systems are cattle too.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
agreed, which is why you should use the cattle desktop os (fedora silverblue)

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

spankmeister posted:

nah, just back up the configs and uninstall, then reinstall after upgrading. make sure to jump to the latest version and not just the next one, so that you won't just run into the same issue in half a year (the fedora release cycle) this may require multiple upgrades.

in that case i should probably just wait for fedora 40 since apparently thats soon

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

hbag posted:

in that case i should probably just wait for fedora 40 since apparently thats soon

do whatever you want

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN

hbag posted:

in that case i should probably just wait for fedora 40 since apparently thats soon

auuughhh

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






hbag posted:

in that case i should probably just wait for fedora 40 since apparently thats soon

I think you'd be better off with Ubuntu LTS. 24.04 is almost out.

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

im not touching ubuntu. kubuntu maybe

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
thought about gentoo? it's way more performant bc it custom compiles for your exact machine

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

im not at that level of neckbeard yet but i guess ill consider it

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

fuckin lol

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Update to F39 to make the F40 easier. Good lord.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






hbag posted:

im not at that level of neckbeard yet but i guess ill consider it

not so much neckbeard more goon in the well

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

how is me not wanting to change distros being "in the well". get a grip

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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imagine if there was a separate version of windows called cwindows and the difference was it came preinstalled with chrome

mystes
May 31, 2006

josh04 posted:

imagine if there was a separate version of windows called cwindows and the difference was it came preinstalled with chrome
Ubuntu flavors are just packages that you can install basically. Maybe you can download a separate installer if you really insist, I don't know, but it doesn't really matter.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

josh04 posted:

imagine if there was a separate version of windows called cwindows and the difference was it came preinstalled with chrome

no

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

tbf windows n is the windows for vlc users

Progressive JPEG
Feb 19, 2003

install windows 2000 and blow that puny version 40 out the water

josh04
Oct 19, 2008


"THE FLASH IS THE REASON
TO RACE TO THE THEATRES"

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Cybernetic Vermin posted:

tbf windows n is the windows for vlc users

windows n was made out of spite, that doesn't count

Athas
Aug 6, 2007

fuck that joker
Do not install Gentoo.










Install NixOS.

mystes
May 31, 2006

nix that

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Fedora is fine. If you don’t want to upgrade often, install RHEL or Rocky Linux.

Sapozhnik
Jan 2, 2005

Nap Ghost
or Debian so that you can actually play videos

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



spankmeister posted:

nah, just back up the configs and uninstall, then reinstall after upgrading. make sure to jump to the latest version and not just the next one, so that you won't just run into the same issue in half a year (the fedora release cycle) this may require multiple upgrades.
why does the package manager touch modified files?
it’s trivial to check for, so it really shouldn’t be an issue

Sapozhnik posted:

agreed, which is why you should use the cattle desktop os (fedora silverblue)
that is why btrfs exists

Athas posted:

Do not install Gentoo.










Install NixOS.

didn’t know wishing violence on other posters was okay

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






BlankSystemDaemon posted:

why does the package manager touch modified files?
it’s trivial to check for, so it really shouldn’t be an issue

It doesn't but it never hurts to make backups.

BlankSystemDaemon
Mar 13, 2009



spankmeister posted:

It doesn't but it never hurts to make backups.
true, but they should be automatic and automatically tested

fresh_cheese
Jul 2, 2014

MY KPI IS HOW MANY VP NUTS I SUCK IN A FISCAL YEAR AND MY LAST THREE OFFICE CHAIRS COMMITTED SUICIDE
i am seriously considering putting Clear Linux on one of ye olden ThinkPads i have laying around

Beeftweeter
Jun 28, 2005

OFFICIAL #1 GNOME FAN
do it, clear owns bones and will give it new life

hbag
Feb 13, 2021

i should get a cheap lovely laptop to gently caress around on. just install all kinds of bullshit on it without having to worry about all my actual files or the lifespan of my ssd

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
i literally have twenty dollar wish.com tier ssds as my read/write caches on my nas and ive written so many terabytes through them and they're fine. nobody should worry about TBW.

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008






I've never given SSD lifetime a single thought

Jonny 290
May 5, 2005



[ASK] me about OS/2 Warp
the only time i did was when i bought that pair of optane 58GB's on fire sale as a complete joke. they have like 1600 tbw which is just funny. i use them as my raid1 for /var/log. maybe after ten years i will hit 1% of that

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FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

hbag posted:

i should get a cheap lovely laptop to gently caress around on. just install all kinds of bullshit on it without having to worry about all my actual files or the lifespan of my ssd

- Stop caring about SSD lifespan
- You want a VM. Setup a KVM with stupid bullshit on them.

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