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getting my once every few year itch to play warframe again what's the lowdown, how's the game? how are the goons
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Tabletops posted:getting my once every few year itch to play warframe again goom good
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Apr 8, 2024 23:03
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Best it has ever been - huge improvements at every level of the game, and a staggering amount of content to chew through
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Apr 8, 2024 23:21
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DoombatINC posted:Best it has ever been - huge improvements at every level of the game, and a staggering amount of content to chew through I agree with this statement. As someone who recently returned himself, I was staggered by the level of improvement between 2020 and today, including multiple progression roadblocks impacting me personally that were either totally solved or alleviated significantly (enough to eliminate them as a barrier for me) in the intervening time. Good poo poo.
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Apr 8, 2024 23:23
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Mega-agree on all counts, as someone who last played in uhhh 2021 and came back like 2 months ago, there's only one thing I can and will complain about (necramech requirement for The New War) not being great and super-fun. New frames are good + fun, the two most recent (Qorvex and Dante) are extremely my jam and ALSO pretty user-friendly to get, with both having pretty nice bad-luck-protection if the bounties and new disruption (which is actually good now) don't work out quickly enough. Also the new tileset is sick as hell (mad Victorian science lab with statue monsters). As well as the one before it (big ghost ship). Also the I Can't Believe It's Not Elden Ring mode is pretty fun a couple times, and the circuit (endless waves of different modes) is a great way to get weird new poo poo for old weapons (Incarnons) as well as old frame bps without their respective goofy old grinds.
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Apr 8, 2024 23:46
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Between the focus orbs giving 5000 XP to your current school on pickup, eximus units giving a silly amount of XP, and the general Zariman grind contributing huge amounts of focus in general, I finally maxed out Zenurik and am about to unlock the waybounds on Madurai. Focus schools are still pretty slow but actually possible without making it your job. I'm actually impressed at how not-obnoxious most of the grind is right now. Corrupted holokeys still suck but at least you can pop relics while you're working on that.
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Apr 8, 2024 23:55
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what should i do with this? i barely remember the operator/focus system at all as i haven't played since 2019 and my stop back in in 2019 was fairly short. also tried some mission from lotus that was marked 'elite' and felt like i was doing zero damage to some of the mobs. i don't think my stuff was that bad back in the day and im mr15. it was a 4x forma'd dex furis/lenz and atterax and in a volt prime. gonna take a while to relearn everything
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Apr 9, 2024 00:17
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Tabletops posted:what should i do with this? i barely remember the operator/focus system at all as i haven't played since 2019 and my stop back in in 2019 was fairly short. On Naramon, all you need is Power Spike. Invest the extra points into unlocking "Waybound" passives which will apply to the operator regardless of which school you have active. On Zenurik: Energy Pulse, Wellspring and Inner Might are all priorities. You should unlock Vazarin and max out Protective Sling if you want a reliable way to make any frame invulnerable for 5 seconds whenever you Void Dash (with Magus Cloud to increase AOE). I cheese the hardest content with that. Mardurai and Unairu you can work on later, they are niche and the places where you need operator damage (like Void Angels) there's usually another player who can carry the damage. Power Spike, Protective Dash, and the Zenurik energy suite are the three things that builds rely on.
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Apr 9, 2024 00:43
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I made it, with significant assistance, through Deep Archimedea and I'll say I'm really not a fan of it, However I did get the bragging cosmetic and that's all I'll ever need from there. I will admit that high level enemies without the more spongey properties of SP was nice, I still wish SP was permanent eximus fortress instead of permanent damage sponge.
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Apr 9, 2024 00:51
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Zero VGS posted:Mardurai and Unairu you can work on later, they are niche Unairu does, however, have a universal full armor strip.
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Apr 9, 2024 01:28
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I don't think it's universal, it certainly doesn't appear to work on necramechs or liches, even partially.
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Apr 9, 2024 01:34
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In what world, is unairu and it's immortality waybound, niche. Poise is also a really nice tool if you can't fit primed sure footed.
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Apr 9, 2024 02:12
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Nalesh posted:In what world, is unairu and it's immortality waybound, niche. Poise is also a really nice tool if you can't fit primed sure footed. Never getting killed is way better than having another way to (maybe) get back up IMO (pet sacrifice is already decent if they're not being targeted). But there's so many sources of armor strip, and if you want self-knockdown immune you can even summon an Archgun for the free 2000 Overguard and immediately put it away. I feel like the Unairu toolkit I just haven't had a need for in years. Maybe some people like it but I just wouldn't prioritize it until taking care of that other stuff first. SIGSEGV posted:I don't think it's universal, it certainly doesn't appear to work on necramechs or liches, even partially. Nothing strips armor from Necramechs, Liches and Archons. They are all vulnerable to Banshee Sonar which is one good way to slap a 400x multiplier on them, and things like Attrition perk + Xaku's Whisper, but yeah their armor won't budge and all three can have Damage Attenuation.
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Apr 9, 2024 03:48
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SIGSEGV posted:I made it, with significant assistance, through Deep Archimedea and I'll say I'm really not a fan of it, However I did get the bragging cosmetic and that's all I'll ever need from there. I will admit that high level enemies without the more spongey properties of SP was nice, I still wish SP was permanent eximus fortress instead of permanent damage sponge. I went 37 today with Hildryn and the assassination got pretty spicy. Thankfully the only reward besides the cosmetic is 50 vosfen and I hadn't interacted at all with that system really so I didn't know what an insultingly small amount of vosfen 50 was. Still, I thought it was a lot of fun and I think I'll usually be doing 34-heat runs assuming the modifiers aren't too punishing that week because that way I can at least bring a good frame.
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Apr 9, 2024 04:47
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Prop Wash posted:I went 37 today with Hildryn and the assassination got pretty spicy. Thankfully the only reward besides the cosmetic is 50 vosfen and I hadn't interacted at all with that system really so I didn't know what an insultingly small amount of vosfen 50 was. Still, I thought it was a lot of fun and I think I'll usually be doing 34-heat runs assuming the modifiers aren't too punishing that week because that way I can at least bring a good frame. Granted, we still nailed it at max heat on the first try and nobody even died, so "challenge" is still relative and not like FF14 Ultimate or Destiny "prog for days or months with a static" raid stuff. I hope that mission goes well in Pub runs. RoadCrewWorker fucked around with this message at 06:40 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 06:27
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I did a full pub run of Elite at max heat (at least I was at max, don't know about the others since one had a Laetum and Torid). We had a good source of overguard for the entire team and I don't think we could have finished without it, especially since it blocked the "Energy drain when near monsters" effect. Overguard OP I had a full Umbral Frost and wandered in on the first attempt and somehow got immediately blown up in the first 30 seconds before going back to the drawing board lol Faxanadus fucked around with this message at 06:38 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 06:33
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It's honestly easier to just have two people run their world destroyer loadout while everyone else runs max debuffs, and then just doing another run afterwards with the other to people doing world destroyers
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Apr 9, 2024 07:10
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well yeah, a basic 2 2 split is the obvious fallback, but that's also repeating a 40 minute run.
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Apr 9, 2024 07:29
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Speaking of bugframe. Today the 5min survival steelpath mission was on that tileset that is archwing in water my inaros got stuck in water near the ramp, unable to do anything. /unstuck didn't help. For the next 5minutes, while another player was doing the mission, I watched and listened how grineer one by one walked into the water and died.
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Apr 9, 2024 14:32
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I'm MR11 and I've built ignis wraith, fulmin, arca plasmor, phage, and broken war. Anything else very good or fun I should grab? I have about thirty other things sitting in the foundry, built, waiting for the next double affinity event. I'm also almost done with the star chart. What comes next? Learning how to kill eidolons for arcanes? Farm a necramech?
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Apr 9, 2024 16:26
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm MR11 and I've built ignis wraith, fulmin, arca plasmor, phage, and broken war. Anything else very good or fun I should grab? I have about thirty other things sitting in the foundry, built, waiting for the next double affinity event. Necramechs make eidolons easy but people don't have to farm eidolons any more, unless they want to. Here is a suggested task list once you get ready  You can max syndicates as well. You can get 3 maxed pretty easy. temple fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 16:59
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MikusR posted:Speaking of bugframe. Today the 5min survival steelpath mission was on that tileset that is archwing in water my inaros got stuck in water near the ramp, unable to do anything. I was doing max heat Elite Deep to get that sumdali and my Warframe during defense suddenly transformed into my Necramech. I never summoned it, never went near the spawns for them, and I couldn't leave the Necramech. I had to fall off the map, which let me go to operator, but I still couldn't go into my frame (it was laying on the ground T-posing at the cliff where I jumped off the map). Getting the operator killed finally fixed it. Still won that run by spamming Vazarin dash non-stop on the party. The Fragmented boss will straight up cheat and kill people though shield/overguard gating, but it can't get through Vazarin.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:00
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm MR11 and I've built ignis wraith, fulmin, arca plasmor, phage, and broken war. Anything else very good or fun I should grab? I have about thirty other things sitting in the foundry, built, waiting for the next double affinity event. Some of the kitguns are very good. The Sporelacer and Catchmoon secondaries have both put in a lot of work for me. Guandao Prime, Orthos Prime, or if you can't farm up the parts, the drifter's Edun are good workhorse polearms. Do quests. You aren't almost done with the star chart; there's at least two more planets' worth of missions that only appear after you do particular story quests. The game will require you to build a necramech before you can do those story quests, so you might as well get on that. Eidolons aren't bad to do for awhile if you haven't unlocked your focus school abilities. They take forever to grind out enough arcanes to upgrade them to be really good, but they also drop eidolon shards that give you a substantial amount of focus. Even just having the waybounds unlocked is a big boon to using the operator.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:29
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Important to note: Eidolon shards let you bypass and completely ignore the daily focus cap. Or at least they use to, I haven't given this advice in years.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:37
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New players should do duviri ASAP. Acrithis sells potatoes, kullervo is very good, azothane and syam are top tier melee weapons, did I mention the potatoes?
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Apr 9, 2024 17:51
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That chart is pretty good. I’d note that with the Dante update Kahl no longer has archon shards. Also, a lot of content is gated behind having not a railjack and necramech.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:57
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Potat, potat, hims a tiny kavat
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Apr 9, 2024 22:47
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In my more recent endgame-y runs I've been playing my umbral Oberon Prime build with a Vasca Kavat and it's a hoot - between Primed Pack Leader and Everyday Oberon Bullshit my cat never takes significant damage, so every two minutes I get a free mulligan to do some dumb poo poo with no consequences
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Apr 9, 2024 23:03
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DoombatINC posted:In my more recent endgame-y runs I've been playing my umbral Oberon Prime build with a Vasca Kavat and it's a hoot - between Primed Pack Leader and Everyday Oberon Bullshit my cat never takes significant damage, so every two minutes I get a free mulligan to do some dumb poo poo with no consequences You might wanna check any Vulpaphyla, there's a funny interaction with Primed Pack Leader and Martyr Symbiosis mods. Martyr Symbiosis already saves you from dying while giving you 1 second invincibility, and instead of a 2-minute cooldown it's only 30 seconds (time of Vulpaphyla larval state). But apparently the Overguard gating will prevent Martyr Symbiosis from killing the Vulpaphyla, while still saving you.
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Apr 10, 2024 01:18
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Zero VGS posted:You might wanna check any Vulpaphyla, there's a funny interaction with Primed Pack Leader and Martyr Symbiosis mods. Martyr Symbiosis already saves you from dying while giving you 1 second invincibility, and instead of a 2-minute cooldown it's only 30 seconds (time of Vulpaphyla larval state). But apparently the Overguard gating will prevent Martyr Symbiosis from killing the Vulpaphyla, while still saving you. I need to experiment more with the Deimos pets in general, they're aesthetically dope and all seem to have some sort of busted interaction with this-and-that Also after jumping into a bunch of Netracells / Deep Archimedea / Steel Path Cavia bounties the past week: goddamn this game is capital-f Fun, I love all this white knuckle content so much 
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Apr 10, 2024 17:17
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Gold potato excavation alert up for the next 5 days!
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Apr 10, 2024 19:31
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big cummers ONLY posted:I'm MR11 and I've built ignis wraith, fulmin, arca plasmor, phage, and broken war. Anything else very good or fun I should grab? I have about thirty other things sitting in the foundry, built, waiting for the next double affinity event. mr 11 also has the synapse which isn't considered amazing or meta or anything but is kind of a sleeper primary imo. It does innate corrosive and has very nice crit stats.
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Apr 10, 2024 21:11
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the newest hotfix changes fix my major complaints, so good job. restoring the status damage increase on pageflight goes a long way towards scaling his ability damage. some napkin math i did post-change was that going from 100% str to 200% was a 4x damage multi assuming you had pageflight up, since he had 3 multipliers in his kit (base damage, status doubling from pageflight, tragedy nuke). now it's closer to an 8x multi. it's also why you want to stack strength as high as you can on him because he gets a lot more value per point of strength even above 300% thanks to how his kit works. also why you really should have pageflight up at all times. i'm a little sad that the rage/hunter adrenaline interaction change is only on overguard granted from allies but also i understand why because giving kullervo infinite energy is probably a wee bit dangerous lol. i think nezha's augment could've stayed nerfed since we know status spread is insanely broken but it got pulled into the waves of (often exaggerated) complaints. FZeroRacer fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Apr 10, 2024 |
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Apr 10, 2024 21:30
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Did they change the permanent Bunny Ears to a Signa yet?
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Apr 10, 2024 21:52
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I love it. "Fine, have a billion damage, jeezus"
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Apr 10, 2024 23:20
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I feel like DE's take away from this is going to be that they have to err on the side of underpowered when releasing new frame because the community is going to lose it's poo poo if they nerf even a blindingly obviously OP frame.
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Apr 10, 2024 23:46
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I had a Dante player actually die during regular circuit today, squad chat tore them apart after they're like "this is a damage build."
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Apr 11, 2024 00:34
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lol the damage build is the survivability build You could toss in adaptation or rolling guard or health or shields or defensive focus skills but why tho? E: vvv I mean Kullervo still does dummy damage too, I don't think that's much of a thing we have to worry about, Dante was just lazy and unkillable and status immune. Still love our silly book wizard man. FunkyFjord fucked around with this message at 01:25 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Apr 11, 2024 01:19
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The Moon Monster posted:I feel like DE's take away from this is going to be that they have to err on the side of underpowered when releasing new frame because the community is going to lose it's poo poo if they nerf even a blindingly obviously OP frame. Unfortunately it's equally likely this will make the worst parts of the community think those numbers should be the floor ("why wouldn't I just play Dante instead of <<>>"). But, what can you do? I'm just happy to play a game where it doesn't take 6 months for the designers to go, actually you know what, let's roll back some of what we did, everyone hates it (wow vet)
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Us concrete man and caliban players didn't complain when they came out and their skills do basically nothing. Spoiled rear end book man players! Oh no, we got nerfed from being unkillable and doing infinite damage to being unkillable and doing infinite damage, this is the greatest pain anyone has ever suffered.
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