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His Divine Shadow posted:My kids are only 10 but one got a laptop and the other wanted a desktop PC, so I am thinking that puts them ahead of the curve. The Kids Are Alright. Time_pants posted:I mean, the approach to this stuff is basically like saying, "There's words written everywhere! Kids will just naturally learn to read! What's the point in teaching them?" My kids have "technology" class in primary school where they play on iPads and get "taught" trivia like the parts of a PC (tower, modem, monitor) by doing worksheets. At the end of the class they have to force-close every app on the iPad like it's an android device from 2010. ~Coxy fucked around with this message at 03:41 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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wash bucket posted:
Don't use the app, the answer to any thing that wants you to use an app for one site. Apps are an admission of "we know the site is hosed and we won't fix it because it's funny".
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Apr 9, 2024 05:17
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Also you can pretty much bet 100% that any given app = spyware at this point
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Apr 9, 2024 07:05
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I've gotten that message from time to time just in the web browser, but usually only after having a 10 hour mix of something on in the background on another tab.
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Apr 9, 2024 08:16
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I tutor kids in IT (programming through game design), and the caps-lock typing thing really threw me. Given how consistent it was, I wondered if it was something they were being taught in schools
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Apr 9, 2024 10:48
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Dip Viscous posted:Don't use the app, the answer to any thing that wants you to use an app for one site. Apps are an admission of "we know the site is hosed and we won't fix it because it's funny". That wasn't an app. That was the website in FireFox with uBlock Origin after watching a single 10 minute video. First time I'd even looked at YouTube that day.
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Apr 9, 2024 11:49
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Houle posted:Back in the day you used to be able to preload all the tabs in advance and watch at your heart's content. Back when my Internet was slow id basically load up my days viewing for later and play at night. I miss when it did this. SmartTube has an option where it lets you preload a hefty chunk (I can't recall exactly how much) and it ignores youtube ads too so that's kinda sick tbh. Android only: https://smarttube.app
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Apr 9, 2024 13:22
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Olympic Mathlete posted:I miss when it did this. SmartTube has an option where it lets you preload a hefty chunk (I can't recall exactly how much) and it ignores youtube ads too so that's kinda sick tbh. Android only: https://smarttube.app lmao at using an android
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pencilhands posted:lmao at using an android Yeah it owns, I don't see any ads on my phone
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Apr 9, 2024 14:21
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I tend to use revanced. I still haven't gotten a hang of it yet since vanced had spoofed premium features but that's more my own ignorance than anything. I just need to figure out a way to stream to my TV because it uses the YouTube app for that. I might just say gently caress it and get a new laptop. My newest one is 20 years old but never felt the need to get a new one. Clean install of windows 10, 2.4Ghz, 8gb ram, i7. So things that gotten shittier, my media set up and pirate pipeline.
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Apr 9, 2024 14:25
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Technocrat posted:I tutor kids in IT (programming through game design), and the caps-lock typing thing really threw me. Given how consistent it was, I wondered if it was something they were being taught in schools
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Apr 9, 2024 14:57
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Yeah when I started on the computer I started with caps-lock, shift doesn't really work well until you have the hang of where most letters are instinctively
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Technocrat posted:I tutor kids in IT (programming through game design), and the caps-lock typing thing really threw me. Given how consistent it was, I wondered if it was something they were being taught in schools Am I missing something here? That's just how capitalization on touchscreen works. You hit the shift key to get into single letter capitalization mode and then the letter. You don't have to hold the shift key like on a keyboard. That's where they learn it. I guess it takes some coordination to hit two keys at the same time with one hand so without putting some effort into developing the muscle memory you just keep doing the caps lock thing forever and ever, like hunt and peck.
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Apr 9, 2024 16:02
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it basically doesnt matter unless you do a lot of high volume typing professionally that requires a certain WPM. most boomers and gen x's suck at typing also, and hell, many millenials
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Apr 9, 2024 16:15
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Instead of typing perhaps spitting some sick bars??
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mavis beacon learned me right
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Mozi posted:
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:it basically doesnt matter unless you do a lot of high volume typing professionally that requires a certain WPM. most boomers and gen x's suck at typing also, and hell, many millenials My workday is 20% typing and 80% Googling errors.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:it basically doesnt matter unless you do a lot of high volume typing professionally that requires a certain WPM. most boomers and gen x's suck at typing also, and hell, many millenials No point in getting good at something when a machine does it for you and you can focus on other more interesting stuff.
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Apr 9, 2024 16:48
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everyone on teh forums knows my typing is impeccable, and thusly, i am not t obe questioned on this matter,.
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Outrail posted:No point in getting good at something when a machine does it for you and you can focus on other more interesting stuff. This is a worrying attitude personally.
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Outrail posted:No point in getting good at something when a machine does it for you and you can focus on other more interesting stuff. His Divine Shadow posted:This is a worrying attitude personally. It reminds me of a short story I read in high school or college: "They gave up understanding for power..."
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His Divine Shadow posted:This is a worrying attitude personally. machines do a lot of things for us that enable us to focus on more interesting stuff that's been kind of the deal with machines the whole time becoming wholly dependent babies is a problem but i'm not going to stop using the dishwasher and instead hone my natural skills at dishwashing that said i generally delete and retype things that are typos rather than using autocorrect so i guess the truth is somewhere in the middle
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His Divine Shadow posted:This is a worrying attitude personally. Using a spell check isn't giving up to the machines anymore than letting auto pilot drive a plane. You let the machine do the tedious repetitive poo poo while I focus on higher level decision making. When I lose my grammarly subscription at the end of the month I'm not going to be incapable of doing my job, it's just going to be slower while I readjust for a few weeks.
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Apr 9, 2024 17:11
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I'm calling my shot here: within the next 10 years, Windows is going to become a subscription service.
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Time_pants posted:I'm calling my shot here: within the next 10 years, Windows is going to become a subscription service. Finally, the year of linux on the desktop will come. It definitely looks like Microsoft wants to do that, but I'm dubious they can effectively pull it off.
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Time_pants posted:I'm calling my shot here: within the next 10 years, Windows is going to become a subscription service. Halfway there with office 365 and their insistent w11 begging.
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Outrail posted:Using a spell check isn't giving up to the machines anymore than letting auto pilot drive a plane. Funny you mentioned autopilot.
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Houle posted:I tend to use revanced. I still haven't gotten a hang of it yet since vanced had spoofed premium features but that's more my own ignorance than anything. Newpipe on Android, or Tubular if you want a mildly buggy implementation of several of the most popular browser plug-ins. Keeping vanced method alive is very vulnerable to YouTube API fuckery.
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Outrail posted:insistent w11 begging. They aren't begging me to upgrade because my computer doesn't have a TPM IC on the mainboard.
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TotalLossBrain posted:They aren't begging me to upgrade because my computer doesn't have a TPM IC on the mainboard. It probably does, it's just usually off by default because it's only really a good idea in a corporate PC environment where you can set up the backup and recovery system. Otherwise fixable hardware problems brick your PC.
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Nah, this mb is 2014 vintage. TPM 2.0 became standard in 2016
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There are two simple reasons most members of the younger generation never learned to type, keyboard sizes and touch screens. Keyboard sizes are now fully nonstandard. Getting a "standard" (bear in mind this is the size of the Model M) keyboard from an online retailer requires specifically seeking it out, and no computer manufacturer provides them, so you'll literally never have one at work unless you provide it. Laptops with Standard keyboards are all but extinct. This makes learning to type without looking at the keyboard much, much harder unless you use the same exact keyboard until you're fully learned, but is generally fine if you already know how to type and can determine the size somewhat intuitively based on the home row size. None of this is possible on a touchscreen, of course, and keyboard sizes on touchscreens are entirely arbitrary and even scalable. It's not unusual for two identical devices to have completely different configurations, and only rare, borderline-novelty devices have the ability for a user to successfully find and re-find the home row without looking. That makes touch typing not just a useless skill, but an active impediment to the most common interfaces kids encounter. This isn't even to touch on the suitability of the 150 year old QWERTY layout to a modern world. That would be its own entirely separate derail, but suffice to say we standardized on a layout that would be extremely generous to call suboptimal for most people, and we expect children to learn it based off nonsensical cultural inertia. In short, I'm more surprised that any member of Gen Z has learned touch typing than I am that most have not.
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Look if you haven't developed you're own unoptimal but effective enough way to type you have failed as a person. I use mainly 4 fingers for the bulk, pinky for shift, thumbs for space. What the gently caress is a home row?
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GABA ghoul posted:I guess it takes some coordination to hit two keys at the same time with one hand so without putting some effort into developing the muscle memory you just keep doing the caps lock thing forever and ever, like hunt and peck. For me, the Caps Lock is just part of the muscle memory. It's just what I do and don't think about it, and it causes no actual problems. After 30+ years, I imagine trying to change it would be like me learning how to write with my right hand as a left hander.
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Why do we even have upper and lower case? THEY MEAN THE SAME THING IN FACT I THINK EVERYTHING WOULD BE A LOT EASIER TO READ IF EVERYTHING WAS WRITTEN IN UPPERCASE.
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I cant remember the last time I used the capslock key. I GUESS I HAVE SOMETHING TO LOOK FORWARD TO WHEN I TURN 65
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My kid who is 14 taught themselves how to type properly via tutorial websites/games. I asked about other kids and I was told that most other kids do hunt and peck typing, also there is no typing/keyboarding class they can take. I took typing as an elective on a electric typewriter around 1994.
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I knew how to type, but what truly turned me into a fast typist was multiplayer Act III of Diablo 2
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credburn posted:Why do we even have upper and lower case? THEY MEAN THE SAME THING CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL
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