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slave to my cravings posted:I always thought Shaq and Dwade won more than one title but they didn’t i always thought you made that one good post too.... funny how memory works
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Apr 9, 2024 02:50
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I'm assuming no games tonight because it's a flight risk?
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Apr 9, 2024 03:10
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Tae posted:I'm assuming no games tonight because it's a flight risk? They're playing nice with the NCAA again so night off for the title game.
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Apr 9, 2024 03:16
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predicto posted:In February the Warriors were foundering. Mired in 10th place in the West. Then they upped their game and won 22 of their next 32, to bring them to …. 10th in the West. to be fair the following teams are frauds: all of them except the denver jokics
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Apr 9, 2024 03:22
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fart simpson posted:i always thought you made that one good post too.... funny how memory works lol
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Apr 9, 2024 03:25
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fart simpson posted:proof? Milwaukee’s record against the west this season: 15-14 Milwaukee’s record against the East this season: 32-17 If those ratios held but the number of games was reversed, they’d be 44-34, which would put them right between the lakers and warriors fighting for the 8/9 spot
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Apr 9, 2024 04:27
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I guess michael cooper got in the basketball hall of fame which is pretty loving silly. i swear to Ja all the voters must be 70 year old college coaches
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Apr 9, 2024 05:07
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Dejan Bimble posted:I guess michael cooper got in the basketball hall of fame which is pretty loving silly. I read the athletic article, the problem is that there is no NBA Hall of Fame. So Cooper has 8x all defense, a DPOY, 5 rings, but then also 2x WNBA coaching titles, WNBA COTY and (for what it's worth) a G league championship all on top of a decent college and overseas career. It's maybe not a slam dunk but the athletic article ignored most of those accomplishments and focused on his NBA stats. That is very incomplete.
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Lockback posted:I read the athletic article, the problem is that there is no NBA Hall of Fame. So Cooper has 8x all defense, a DPOY, 5 rings, but then also 2x WNBA coaching titles, WNBA COTY and (for what it's worth) a G league championship all on top of a decent college and overseas career. It's maybe not a slam dunk but the athletic article ignored most of those accomplishments and focused on his NBA stats. That is very incomplete.
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Apr 9, 2024 05:43
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Lockback posted:I read the athletic article, the problem is that there is no NBA Hall of Fame. So Cooper has 8x all defense, a DPOY, 5 rings, but then also 2x WNBA coaching titles, WNBA COTY and (for what it's worth) a G league championship all on top of a decent college and overseas career. It's maybe not a slam dunk but the athletic article ignored most of those accomplishments and focused on his NBA stats. That is very incomplete. 2 wnba coaching rings is not really anything much unless theyre have category bonus multipliers. we need an NBA hall badly. because this one really does ignore tons of great nba players who didn’t happen to play on the celtics or lakers
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Apr 9, 2024 05:57
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Cooper seems like a fine inductee if you believe that the whole can be greater than the sum of its parts. None of his accolades probably 100% secure him a HOF spot, but altogether its a really impressive and long career dedicated to ball I wouldn't be surprised if he's also in because he was the only dude missing from the core of the 80s Lakers teams, though. That said, the Basketball HOF is by far the most "Hall of FAME" of the sports - and I like that its a big hall because IDK if dudes like Abe Saperstein or Howard Garfinkel would be in other HOFs
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Apr 9, 2024 06:06
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If you're putting Michael Cooper in you may as well put Robert Horry in too. The funnier one to me is that Dick Barnett (one all-star appearance) getting in now means that everyone who started on either Knicks championship team is now in the HOF lol.
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Apr 9, 2024 06:55
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Tangential to the NBA: Given that he just got done basically averaging a bit better than 30 & 15 over six games in the NCAA Tournament on better than 60% from the floor...as much of a relative dinosaur type of old-fashioned big man that he is, did Zach Edey move the needle much on his NBA prospects with his performance over the past 3-4 weeks? Crazy Ted fucked around with this message at 07:13 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 07:08
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He shot up Givony's mock and Givony usually bases his info on what people who work with NBA teams in some capacity are telling him. I dunno, I'm not big on the tournament as an influence to the draft, like it's only even a bullet point if it features a player going against someone with the NBA size they're going to go against if they play their NBA projected position. I think tonight was the first time Edey played someone likely to play center at the next level. But overall this season has warmed me up on Edey, because the fact that he just gets better every year impresses me. But I say that with the stance that he could not compete at the NBA level right now, and it's difficult to know if he is going to stay on his upward trajectory because of his age. To me that's a risk I maybe take at the end of a normal draft, or post lottery in a draft like this that is a mystery. But some NBA GMs apparently feel higher on him right now. We'll see how that fares in the draft process.
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Apr 9, 2024 07:29
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Rick posted:He shot up Givony's mock and Givony usually bases his info on what people who work with NBA teams in some capacity are telling him. If a handful of NBA execs are indeed high on him right now than I can only imagine that Edey putting up 37 & 10 tonight against a UConn team with Donovan Clingan at center will make those opinions shoot a fair bit higher.
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Apr 9, 2024 07:35
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This is an utter poo poo of a draft, so there is almost no reason not to go ahead and take a chance on Edey. He’s a dinosaur but perhaps he can brute force score on guys like Wemby and Holmgren, and draw fouls. The center position is not completely dead. Embiid is still extremely effective (I’m not saying Edey has Embiid potential but if he can learn how to set screens and hit the occasional outside shot, maybe he could be an effective starter.)
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Apr 9, 2024 09:05
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predicto posted:This is an utter poo poo of a draft, so there is almost no reason not to go ahead and take a chance on Edey. He’s a dinosaur but perhaps he can brute force score on guys like Wemby and Holmgren, and draw fouls. The center position is not completely dead.
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Apr 9, 2024 09:21
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predicto posted:This is an utter poo poo of a draft, so there is almost no reason not to go ahead and take a chance on Edey. He’s a dinosaur but perhaps he can brute force score on guys like Wemby and Holmgren, and draw fouls. The center position is not completely dead. Embiid is still extremely effective (I’m not saying Edey has Embiid potential but if he can learn how to set screens and hit the occasional outside shot, maybe he could be an effective starter.) The center position has never thrived more in recent years, are you from 2007
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Tae posted:The center position has never thrived more in recent years, are you from 2007 A brief aside: I remember in NBA Live 2002 that the number one Centre from the rookie draft who always developed into a powerhouse that rivaled Shaq when you simulated multiple seasons was DeSagana Diop Kwame Brown maxed out at 87 overall after a few years Just like in real life
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Apr 9, 2024 11:54
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Crazy Ted posted:Of course the center position is not completely dead. It's just evolved significantly. Yeah, i think the problem is, the bar for useful offense if you're going to be a lumbering drop-only guy is probably higher than what edey can do, especially off-ball offense. Edey doesn't really have an outside shot for the off-ball role that might make it worth adjusting the defense for him. He's worth taking a flyer on but he strikes me as more Boban than Embiid.
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Apr 9, 2024 12:26
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Panzeh posted:Yeah, i think the problem is, the bar for useful offense if you're going to be a lumbering drop-only guy is probably higher than what edey can do, especially off-ball offense. Edey doesn't really have an outside shot for the off-ball role that might make it worth adjusting the defense for him. He's worth taking a flyer on but he strikes me as more Boban than Embiid. but embiid cant shoot either
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fart simpson posted:but embiid cant shoot either Embiid oscillates between .330 and .370 from 3pt land at the NBA level and a mid range jumper is his go-to move. Edey has shot like two college threes.
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Apr 9, 2024 13:23
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It seems very easy to learn how to shoot a three though. Plenty of bigs have done it since 2016.
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Apr 9, 2024 13:27
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slave to my cravings posted:It seems very easy to learn how to shoot a three though. Plenty of bigs have done it since 2016. I think i'd be more confident of that if Edey ever actually used a jumper from anywhere on the court, but it's a possibility.
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slave to my cravings posted:It seems very easy to learn how to shoot a three though. Plenty of bigs have done it since 2016. I looked at this a few years ago and found that about 1/3 of college players who didn't shoot threes (not just bigs) would go on to shoot acceptably in the NBA, which isn't a high number but it's much higher than I thought.
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dokmo posted:I looked at this a few years ago and found that about 1/3 of college players who didn't shoot threes (not just bigs) would go on to shoot acceptably in the NBA, which isn't a high number but it's much higher than I thought. Did you look at their FT% in college too? That's usually a good indicator of if a player has the ability to eventually become an outside shooter even if they don't take them in college/as a rookie. Edey is at 70% on his FTs which is pretty much the absolute bottom of the range for anyone you'd conceivably hope to turn into a jump shooter someday. Edey also has a mediocre block rate and an incredibly low steal rate - those are two really strong indicators of whether you have NBA athleticism and probably the most consistently translatable stats from college to the pros. It's rare that a college player who gets lots of blocks and steals doesn't end up having a career in the NBA (even if it's an end of the rotation kind of guy), but there are legions of excellent college scorers with low athleticism who never make it.
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Dejan Bimble posted:2 wnba coaching rings is not really anything much unless theyre have category bonus multipliers. Disagree Telluric Whistler posted:None of his accolades probably 100% secure him a HOF spot, but altogether its a really impressive and long career dedicated to ball Agree, and a good way to put it. tanglewood1420 posted:If you're putting Michael Cooper in you may as well put Robert Horry in too. He has the rings but no NBA Defense, no DPOY, and no coaching career.
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Edey will need to become a way better rim runner because that little clear out hook shot will not be super effective in the NBA. He seems way too stiff for NBA defense but maybe that looks different with a different scheme. I guess if your taking a late pick and you don't need a lot of flash there's a path where be becomes a Nurkic-like guy or a Plumlee like career but that seems absolutely best path and I'd guess he'd most likely just be an end-of-rotation, "Let's try some size", type guy. That's probably fine at the end of the first. Even in this draft I think there are better "Boom or Bust" types at the end of the lottery and middle of the first.
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Question about mines and traps: how do they work with regards to "on hit", "when you hit an enemy" etc. I am assuming things that work "on hit" will trigger because I see every Explosive Trapper POB using the 15% chance to unnerve enemies on hit eldritrch mod on gloves. But I also assume the lovely mod I got on my sceptre doesn't trigger since its not me doing the hit?  e: wrong thread, leaving it for embarrassing Salvor_Hardin fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Question about mines and traps: how do they work with regards to "on hit", "when you hit an enemy" etc. 10% increased movement speed would definitely help Edey's NBA prospects.
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Salvor_Hardin posted:Question about mines and traps: how do they work with regards to "on hit", "when you hit an enemy" etc. giannis has this mod
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Kwame Brown used to play like he was wearing Eldritch Gloves
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fart simpson posted:but embiid cant shoot either embiid is shooting close to if not 60% from midrange this season e: he's shooting 56% from top of the key/nail/left elbow aBagorn fucked around with this message at 15:00 on Apr 9, 2024 |
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Apr 9, 2024 14:29
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aBagorn posted:embiid is shooting close to if not 60% from midrange this season sorry, colin cowherd recently said embiid can’t shoot and he’s an expert i trust
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Apr 9, 2024 14:46
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Kwame catching strays on this page, sheesh
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Apr 9, 2024 15:40
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nah, it's okay, the strays will just bounce off his hands and end up out-of-bounds
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Tae posted:The center position has never thrived more in recent years, are you from 2007 I know, I’m just saying that Edey isn’t Roy Hibbert. Because of his inside scoring there is a least a possibility of finding a way to make him a useful part of a rotation..
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predicto posted:I know, I’m just saying that Jahlil Okafor isn’t Roy Hibbert. Because of his inside scoring there is a least a possibility of finding a way to make him a useful part of a rotation..
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