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Pennywise the Frown posted:It's always wise to escalate danger due to pettiness when driving 2 ton vehicles at 65mph. This is what they told me to do at Sears driving school. Basically pretty much, it was awhile ago.
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Pennywise the Frown posted:It's always wise to escalate danger due to pettiness when driving 2 ton vehicles at 65mph. Also, if you're getting tailgated often enough to complain about it on the internet, you probably aren't getting tailgated. You're just being followed at a reasonable distance and acting liking an rear end in a top hat in response. Tailgating happens but I think it happens to me 2-3 times a year at most. I'm more likely to encounter someone trying to brake check people for no loving reason than people actually tailgating.
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Apr 11, 2024 04:02
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Leviathan Song posted:Also, if you're getting tailgated often enough to complain about it on the internet, you probably aren't getting tailgated. You're just being followed at a reasonable distance and acting liking an rear end in a top hat in response. Tailgating happens but I think it happens to me 2-3 times a year at most. I'm more likely to encounter someone trying to brake check people for no loving reason than people actually tailgating. Yeah I have to do this a couple times a year always to someone in a huge truck who thinks I care if he rear ends me. I show him lights and then go slower the closer he drives. They never ever keep it up more than a minute after that. The only reason people tailgate is because so many people get out of their way.
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Apr 11, 2024 04:10
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Leviathan Song posted:Also, if you're getting tailgated often enough to complain about it on the internet, you probably aren't getting tailgated. You're just being followed at a reasonable distance and acting liking an rear end in a top hat in response. Tailgating happens but I think it happens to me 2-3 times a year at most. I'm more likely to encounter someone trying to brake check people for no loving reason than people actually tailgating. I'm not complaining on the internet about it, but here in Florida I get tailgated literally every day. Multiple times. The road in front of my neighborhood is 35 in one direction, 40 in the other and has speed trap spots in both directions so I just don't speed on it. Not speeding on this road is apparently outrageous to most people here, so I routinely have an SUV or giant pickup truck right up my rear end. If I, in a sedan, cannot see the front license plate holder of an SUV or truck because it's blocked by my trunk, they are well within a car length of my bumper. Tailgating by any definition. Happens every single day, and if I'm lucky, every single time I'm on that road in a given day. People are completely reckless and utterly insane.
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Apr 11, 2024 04:28
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:lol responding to dangerous driving with dangerous driving ftw It's literally the recommended safest action when being tailgated in the EU & UK highway code.
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Apr 11, 2024 04:39
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Leviathan Song posted:Also, if you're getting tailgated often enough to complain about it on the internet, you probably aren't getting tailgated. You're just being followed at a reasonable distance and acting liking an rear end in a top hat in response. Tailgating happens but I think it happens to me 2-3 times a year at most. I'm more likely to encounter someone trying to brake check people for no loving reason than people actually tailgating. If you are less than one car length behind me and we're going 65mph, you are absolutely tailgating the poo poo out of me. People do this every loving day in Seattle. Tailgating is any time you are following someone close enough that if they had to stop and you can't stop fast enough to not hit them in response. Its irresponsible and stupid behavior.
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Apr 11, 2024 04:40
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freddiestarfish posted:It's literally the recommended safest action when being tailgated in the EU & UK highway code. The only way to de-escalate the situation is with a gun
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freddiestarfish posted:It's literally the recommended safest action when being tailgated in the EU & UK highway code. Slowing down and brake checking are different things and I strongly doubt the EU and UK recommend a brake check
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Apr 11, 2024 04:43
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silicone thrills posted:If you are less than one car length behind me and we're going 65mph, you are absolutely tailgating the poo poo out of me. People do this every loving day in Seattle. Tailgating is any time you are following someone close enough that if they had to stop and you can't stop fast enough to not hit them in response. Its irresponsible and stupid behavior. I agree that person you quoted is surely the tailgater in this situation. Having said that I moved from DC to Seattle and people drive so mellow out here that it was like culture shock. I was sharking between cars on the 520 during my first week and I was like "oh nobody else is doing this lol".
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silicone thrills posted:If you are less than one car length behind me and we're going 65mph, you are absolutely tailgating the poo poo out of me. People do this every loving day in Seattle. Tailgating is any time you are following someone close enough that if they had to stop and you can't stop fast enough to not hit them in response. Its irresponsible and stupid behavior. I live in the Seattle area and no they don't. If anything Seattle area drivers are calm, slow and have respectful following distances. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear.
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MrQwerty posted:Slowing down and brake checking are different things and I strongly doubt the EU and UK recommend a brake check in the uk they call it a "brake test"
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Leviathan Song posted:I live in the Seattle area and no they don't. If anything Seattle area drivers are calm, slow and have respectful following distances. Objects in mirror are closer than they appear. lmao. lol.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:in the uk they call it a "brake test" Lol
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Salt Fish posted:I agree that person you quoted is surely the tailgater in this situation. Having said that I moved from DC to Seattle and people drive so mellow out here that it was like culture shock. I was sharking between cars on the 520 during my first week and I was like "oh nobody else is doing this lol". Seattle drivers are so mellow that they're dangerous, in that it's so common for people to give way to onramp traffic that onramp traffic largely makes no attempt to merge safely or even look to see if anyone is in the lane before moving into it. If you set the cruise control and chill in the right lane someone's gonna run you out of the lane by merging straight into the space your car is already occupying. Cerekk fucked around with this message at 04:54 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Apr 11, 2024 04:51
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Cerekk posted:Seattle drivers are so mellow that they're dangerous, in that it's so common for people to give way to onramp traffic that onramp traffic largely makes no attempt to merge safely or even look to see if anyone is in the lane before moving into it. Its not that they're mellow. Its that they're just loving like not even paying attention to driving at all. The guy who hit me most recently tried to claim that "his brakes failed" after hitting us and its like no man, i have the dash cam. you never even tried to brake. A few years back I got hit by someone taking an illegal right turn on red during a green uturn blinker on hwy 99 and no poo poo he pops out of the truck after hitting us and just says "whoa where did you even come from???" Few years before that - got hit by someone in a gas station while we were pumping. Just utterly blank and confused.
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Wow, the drivers from [INSERT LOCAL TOWN]sure do suck!
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The drivers from (NON-LOCAL AREA) that I visited outside of normal commuting times sure seemed more relaxed though!
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silicone thrills posted:Its not that they're mellow. Its that they're just loving like not even paying attention to driving at all. The guy who hit me most recently tried to claim that "his brakes failed" after hitting us and its like no man, i have the dash cam. you never even tried to brake. The "mellowness" I'm talking about is the widespread culture of giving up right of way that you're legally entitled to (see also: waving other people through a four way stop; waving pedestrians into traffic against the don't walk signal). Also the total refusal to accelerate or brake quickly when the situation calls for it or use a horn when it's needed. It all adds up to make everyone less predictable and more jammed up. The Northeast has many more aggressive drivers but they blast by you and they're gone. And if you stay to the right they're not gonna affect you.
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Cerekk posted:The "mellowness" I'm talking about is the widespread culture of giving up right of way that you're legally entitled to (see also: waving other people through a four way stop; waving pedestrians into traffic against the don't walk signal). Also the total refusal to accelerate or brake quickly when the situation calls for it or use a horn when it's needed. It all adds up to make everyone less predictable and more jammed up. The Northeast has many more aggressive drivers but they blast by you and they're gone. And if you stay to the right they're not gonna affect you. oh my gosh this nice NPR lady ended my day on Monday by driving pretty sharp and tight, except for when it came to stops. The first stop she let 5-7 cars cut in front of her that she could have pulled out in front of, and I could have pulled out right behind her. The second stop was hilarious. She comes to a complete stop and lo, there's a car far off in the distance so she sits and waits.... and that car was the first of 1, 2, 3, 6, 10, 14, 20.... they just kept coming, it was hilarious. And then finally she pulled out, and drove like a champ, except now we're in a conga line 20 cars deep.
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all said and done i think it seems like we all agree driving has absolutely gotten way shittier for no good reason.
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silicone thrills posted:all said and done i think it seems like we all agree driving has absolutely gotten way shittier for no good reason. 
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GET OFF THE ROADS ASSHOLES THIS ROAD IS MINE AND YOU DO NOT BELONG.
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Our province does the thing where you can pay extra to get custom vanity plates for local sports team and the like and it's turned out to be an excellent indicator for drivers to look out for because they're probably going to do some stupid poo poo. Someone even did their own statistical analysis to scientifically prove these guys are shitheads.   Jets fans vs. Bomber fans is interesting, although I see way more Jets plates on bigass pickups. Those Snoman plates are up there because they're the plainest white plates you can get here so they get bought up by people who care way too much about their white vehicle and fancy themselves street racers. The organization who manages snowmobile trails in the province gets a cut from those plates to put towards trail upkeep, and it's hilarious how much money they must have rolling in from people who have never touched a snowmobile in their lives. Why yes I just had a pickup with Jets plates sideswipe me because they didn't use their turn signal and rammed me into the next lane, why do you ask?
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I've driven professionally for a decade now and it's absolutely gotten worse post covid. There have been *several* accidents so bad they resulted in rollovers recently where there used to be NONE here. I had to walk home last week because a rollover stopped my bus and it couldn't get past. This week someone hosed up so bad in **downtown Vancouver** it flipped a Maserati and killed a one year old baby & almost killed the father who were crossing on their green light. Apparently speeding wasn't even involved. Oh and I got my first ever death threat on the road last week as well. Everyone has gone well and truly everybody for themselves. Defensive, attentive driving is the the only weapon you have so use it. Everyone else is infact, trying to kill you.
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Caedus posted:I've driven professionally for a decade now and it's absolutely gotten worse post covid. There have been *several* accidents so bad they resulted in rollovers recently where there used to be NONE here. I had to walk home last week because a rollover stopped my bus and it couldn't get past. This week someone hosed up so bad in **downtown Vancouver** it flipped a Maserati and killed a one year old baby & almost killed the father who were crossing on their green light. Apparently speeding wasn't even involved. Oh and I got my first ever death threat on the road last week as well. Everyone has gone well and truly everybody for themselves. Thank you. What year did you start driving professionally?
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Driving in your countries sounds like a nightmare. I'm just wondering has anyone here from the US drive in scandinavia or maybe even Germany? And how did it compare to home?
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His Divine Shadow posted:Driving in your countries sounds like a nightmare. I'm just wondering has anyone here from the US drive in scandinavia or maybe even Germany? And how did it compare to home? The continental United States is 48 different countries with different laws, and one is the size of Texas
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MrQwerty posted:The continental United States is 48 different countries with different laws, and one is the size of Texas And not a single one of them doesn't sound like a nightmare.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Driving in your countries sounds like a nightmare. I'm just wondering has anyone here from the US drive in scandinavia or maybe even Germany? And how did it compare to home? I am a Driving Demon, for reference. And one of my proudest moments ever was in St. Andrews Scotland, I'm driving the rental and there's 6 folks in the van. I'm on a one way street with 3 cars behind me, and I've got to parallel park into the open spot on the left. With everyone watching, the wheel is on the other side!!, I loving nailed it so smooth like butter. Just pulling right into that spot without hesitation......
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His Divine Shadow posted:And not a single one of them doesn't sound like a nightmare. I know how to operate a motor vehicle. My countrymen who are forced to operate one on freeways for their livelihood, however
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Statistically, they too think they know how to operate a motor vehicle. In fact they likely consider themselves above average.
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It takes like 3 hours to get a license in the US which doesn't help. I didn't get one until i was 22ish which meant i never had to go through any drivers ed. I just took a short test for a permit. Practiced in a friends car for a bit. Bought my own. Took that to the dmv. Took another written test that was almost entirely focused on legal alcohol limits and dui law and then got in the car with a tester. Did an around the block and parallel parked behind the dmv and scored an 86. Walked out fully legal to drive. Im 36 now and Ive never had to retest or even prove i can even still see. Ive renewed my license online every time except when i got married and needed to change my name on it. The whole system here is comical.
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His Divine Shadow posted:Statistically, they too think they know how to operate a motor vehicle. In fact they likely consider themselves above average. Yes, I've been driving for 22 years in the Land of Enchantment, I'm well aware that the guy who clipped my Elantra and tore the bumper off its ties while i was on the way to class then drove away going 110 thought he was a good driver. He also probably didn't have registration, insurance or a license considering it's loving New Mexico.
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hot cocoa on the couch posted:in the uk they call it a "brake test" I think you mean a braky testy
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I have no issue with extensive driver education, but I do with one that’s cost prohibitive. Make it tough, sure, but don’t make it bonkers expensive. That’s how you get people going to Romania or wherever to get a license legally here and I’m like a goddamn hair away from doing so myself (I am not going to, I’m going to try the legit way).
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Drivers Ed is a state by state issue. In the USA
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Duck and Cover posted:GET OFF THE ROADS ASSHOLES THIS ROAD IS MINE AND YOU DO NOT BELONG. Anybody driving slower than me is an idiot, and anyone going faster than me is a maniac.
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I think the connection to covid is also because covid causes brain damage
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