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Part way through episode 4 and it's good fun. The power armor special effects bounce between perfect and comically bad without much in-between. One thing they nailed is the perfect amount of fan service: it's quietly there to be observed if you want and doesn't get in the way of the show otherwise. Unlike Picard where the show is pinning you down and viciously beating you in the face with references and bending the plot in stupid ways to fit in even more references.
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Megazver posted:Microsoft owns Bethesda now. (And Obsidian and Inxile.) There are no official statements to point at, for obvious reasons, but it kinda seems like MS has slowly been getting more and more hands-on with Bethesda after Redfall bombed and Starfield failed to meet expectations. Like, after SF came out they actually put an exec from MS above Todd in the BGS hierarchy. Microsoft did all that because a bunch of senior bethesda developers left after 20+ years of working at the same company, having their stock options appreciate after microsoft acquired zenimax. Also EP3 laughing at the hack scriptwriter being named emil. Its a good joke.
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Fabulousity posted:One thing they nailed is the perfect amount of fan service: it's quietly there to be observed if you want and doesn't get in the way of the show otherwise. Unlike Picard where the show is pinning you down and viciously beating you in the face with references and bending the plot in stupid ways to fit in even more references. Think it was a good choice to keep the references basically just to the settings and not having a bunch of charcter references. Made all the references seem very natural and don't stand out if you don't get them. I think someone using a (ep 1 or 2?ish light spoiler a jumpjet gun would of been the only time I think might be a touch confusing for people who've never played fallout 3/4
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I finished watching the first episode and I can't believe they recycled the introductions to Fallout 3 and 4 and made a Frankenstein monster out of it. GOT TO FIND DAD.
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Phenotype posted:ahahahaha (ep3) Wasteland's got its own golden rule. You get sidetracked by bullshit every goddamn time. That got a good laugh out of me, as well as earlier when Holding the portrait up to the headless corpse
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Entorwellian posted:I finished watching the first episode and I can't believe they recycled the introductions to Fallout 3 and 4 and made a Frankenstein monster out of it. GOT TO FIND DAD. For a movie I think that hook works a lot better than for an openworld RPG game. [Ep 8] Would of been fun if the main charcter got sidetracked for the entire seasons doing random side quest and looting litireally everything, and just around with starting and finishing finding her dad in the last twenty minute. Did love the Ghouls quote about always getting into bullshit side quest.
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Ep 8 spoilers / Dead Money reference: The Big MT CEO 'Freddie' is credited as Frederick Sinclair, and House taunts him that he could even lose money on a casino. Of course the show also pays tribute to Honest Hearts (bear-punching) and Lonesome Road (the plot hinging on the consequences of an rear end-pulled reserve batch of nukes hitting an idyllic but thinly-sketched community that people don't seem to talk about as much as they should, and an antagonist who could easily explain everything at the very start but doesn't) I think in honesty the entirety of the NCR / Moldaver plotline makes almost no sense even on its own terms - I especially don't understand why her long and complicated effort to restore power through cold fusion specifically, especially when her followers repeatedly gain access to several Vaults with their own power supplies - is more immediately important to her than breaking through one set of doors into Vault 31 and stopping Hank's comrades from ever nuking her entire society all over again - so no point taking it as a deliberate slight. I took the ending as an indication that House won the Second Battle of Hoover Dam and we'll be seeing him in S2 as the major antagonist, which I'm excited for (since presumably he's the guy who Hank is going to visit). It hasn't necessarily all been well handled, but it's funny that it's being viewed as a slight against NV when clearly this is the part of the setting they're excited to explore next. grobbo fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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The first scene of episode two is a great way to establish your character is a good guy who works for bad guys I had to go and hug my dog when I saw the puppy being carried towards the furnace.
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grobbo posted:This show really hates left feet, specifically that's just where whoever is playing keeps aiming with VATS
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Im past the first episode, for one scene it was like i was watching Justified, just waiting for Boyd or Limehouse to say "Holler"
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Timothy Olyphant could pull off The King. They should really think about that.
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The setpiece in ep4 was very nicely done.
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Generic American posted:once I got over the unfortunate casting choice of Michael Rappaport as Knight Titus At least we got to see him die in agony
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is No Mutants Allowed still around? I feel like a whole new generation of dweeb needs to be quarantined there to spare the rest of us.
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I skipped on some real life responsibilities, one episode left. It can still poo poo the bed, but I've had a good time with it. The bad is mostly the trash that comes with beth canon, like weird timeline incongruence (eg. ruination and decomposition), don't think too hard about it, it'll be fine. I actually liked the decision to nuke NCR to oblivion. It's competent work and in spite of what I feared from the previews, I feel the tone worked. Casting was good, especially the belgian malinois <3 Maybe they'll bungle season 2, so I can get to do some hate watching?
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Mandrel posted:is No Mutants Allowed still around? I feel like a whole new generation of dweeb needs to be quarantined there to spare the rest of us. you can go to r/fallout.
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Mandrel posted:is No Mutants Allowed still around? I feel like a whole new generation of dweeb needs to be quarantined there to spare the rest of us. I think it's fair to be critical of the show not interacting with the aspect of the series I like the most, I'm not mad or anything, just a bit deflated. I bet it'll work a lot better for other people.
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I just finished this show. The front half was fun, though I felt like I was losing interest in the back half. My gut tells me that's cause it was getting more and more referential ala ready player one, though I know that the front half was just as heavy with that. I don't really know what the show believes though or what it has to say. Like, there's some "capitalism bad" in there, but it also doesn't give much within the show itself to argue against what the antagonist says imo. It feels a lot more like it's just 8 hours of "remember this thing from the hit franchise fallout featuring fallout 4 and fallout 76?" Ultimately, I had some fun with it. The acting was decent to solid, the sets and props looked great. Felt like a solid 7/10 to me that left me with a feeling of "so what?"
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I enjoyed the first season but I feel like the second season will be a lot better since the primary characters are all fleshed out and they’ll be able to focus more on worldbuilding. Per usual, Walton Goggins’ performance is the best thing on a TV show. And I loved Matt Berry popping up in several roles. I’d give it a B+. Definitely worth a watch; the lore being wonky didn’t really bug me all that much. There was a good balance of tropes and lore for the diehards and stuff for newcomers to the franchise. And then there’s Fred Armisen out of nowhere doing Portlandia material.
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As a huge fan of fallout 1,2 and New Vegas, the depiction of the west coast has been so disappointing. They should’ve just stuck to the east coast. Oh well it’s not like Bethesda was going to make another west coast based fallout nor would I trust them with the geopolitics involved. New Vegas was lightning in the bottle and it didn’t even involve Bethesda. Edit: it just sucks because the west coast was post-post-apocalyptic which made it so interesting. I’m sick of the “post-apocalyptic” setting when it’s been 200+ years since the bombs dropped Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 21:51 on Apr 11, 2024 |
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Weirdest thing about this show is, my boomer mom likes it. Apparently that generation thought about vault life a lot.
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Rabid Snake posted:As a huge fan of fallout 1,2 and New Vegas, the depiction of the west coast has been so disappointing. They should’ve just stuck to the east coast. Oh well it’s not like Bethesda was going to make another west coast based fallout nor would I trust them with the geopolitics involved. its a rotten corrupt government like NV described.
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Tankbuster posted:its a rotten corrupt government like NV described. It would've been so neat to see the community you nurtured in Fallout 1 become the big threat later on (New Vegas didn't quite count even if it got real close)
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Rabid Snake posted:As a huge fan of fallout 1,2 and New Vegas, the depiction of the west coast has been so disappointing. They should’ve just stuck to the east coast. Oh well it’s not like Bethesda was going to make another west coast based fallout nor would I trust them with the geopolitics involved. Yeah that's what I like most about the setting, the development of new societies out of the ashes and the conflicts they find themselves in. Seeing how the NCR devolved and collapsed would have been really cool.
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I liked Goggins. They really captured the feeling of the games by having the last episode have the main character standing around gawking and doing nothing for 45 minutes while every other character from the previous 7 episodes shows up and finishes up their mini arcs
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AzureFlame posted:Is Cooper's last name Howard because Todd? shows love putting it little references like that for the
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Just finishing up the season now and holy smokes does the show get way better starting from episode 4. Still chewing over it some but I'm actually interested in watching a second season now. Also, incredibly small spoiler about a reference but: When 101097 was the code I thought to myself "oh I wonder if that's when the first game came out, that seems about the right time and that would be a fun callback" so I looked it up and got this:  And then when I looked at actual sources it did come out October 10 after all and Google is just an increasingly lovely LLM garbage launderer by the day. Also the show did kind of make me want to actually play Fallout, which I'm counting as a success.
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grobbo posted:Timothy Olyphant could pull off The King. They should really think about that. Mysterious Stranger.
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Monica Bellucci posted:Mysterious Stranger. Yeah, clearly you bring in Austin Butler to play the King
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Tankbuster posted:its a rotten corrupt government like NV described. Yeah but there's no payoff in the TV series. There was a build up since Fallout 1. For them to throw it away so they could just have another generic "Post Apocalypse" setting is so generic and dumb. It's been 200+ years how the gently caress did society not advance since fallout 1 especially with old tech knowledge around. I wouldn't be bothered if this wasn't touted as "Canon". Feels like we're going to get another "vault dweller" main character in Fallout 5 somehow reacting to a generic wasteland again Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 00:20 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Rabid Snake posted:Yeah but there's no payoff in the TV series. There was a build up since Fallout 1. For them to throw it away so they could just have another generic "Post Apocalypse" setting is so generic and dumb. It's been 200+ years how the gently caress did society not advance since fallout 1 especially with old tech knowledge around. Tech in the Bethesda universe has flat out regressed since Fallout 1. Even Shady Sands was new construction in FO1. Fast forward to any of Bethesda's and everyone's living in ruins 250 years later. The stores still sell old world clothing that has somehow survived. The settlement system is full of "Enjoy this brand new rusty sheet metal building I've constructed". Starfield has the same issue, nothing has advanced in the 200 years since people left Earth. It's just a Bethesda trait that they can't figure out how to have any meaningful tech recovery. I imagine that's why they want us to cheer for the BoS, at least they've rediscovered the mystic art of tailoring.
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Rabid Snake posted:Yeah but there's no payoff in the TV series. There was a build up since Fallout 1. For them to throw it away so they could just have another generic "Post Apocalypse" setting is so generic and dumb. It's been 200+ years how the gently caress did society not advance since fallout 1 especially with old tech knowledge around. Guess you could say that Society is like War
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