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Tankbuster posted:The nuke was a coup de grace. We don't know what the canonical ending of FNV is because the show isn't there yet. You are just arguing for the sake of arguing. Even with the ending with the divide nuking, you can’t be this far behind in tech
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Tankbuster posted:tech works exactly like in Civ. I’m glad you don’t work in television but you post in cspam like the rest of us Edit: it’s like technology information dies with one nation instead of spreading I just can’t with your dumb posts Oh no what is this tech from another faction! Ignore it people are dumb in fallout. They have no engineers! Rabid Snake fucked around with this message at 05:39 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway
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Rabid Snake posted:I’m glad you don’t work in television but you post in cspam like the rest of us I want to dump your books
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BB2K posted:I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway
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BB2K posted:I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway 
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BB2K posted:I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway Show is good on its own standings but the last part hurts and yes it’s true
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Rabid Snake posted:Show is good on its own standings but the last part hurts and yes it’s true It has been all downhill after Fallout 1.
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Just saw episode one, it’s rare to see an adaptation by people who just love the thing. Hopefully we’ll see more ideas that aren’t in the original.
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I liked the show quite a bit with the big caveat that I wish it was set literally anywhere other than California. I'll have a better writeup tomorrow but it's 1am. Highlights were Ghoulggins, the Vault 33 storyline and Maximus being a general dumbass. The best way to describe the show is that it is a Bethesda Fallout story if it was written by literally anyone other than Emil Pagliarulo. This is generally a big positive. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 06:00 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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BB2K posted:I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway Yeah 
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It's been posted already, but I can't tell you how much this brought a smile to my face at the end (major spoiler): 
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Rabid Snake posted:I’m glad you don’t work in television but you post in cspam like the rest of us yeah how come they didn't just use the FEV to grow lisa simpson sized world hunger ending tomatoes after fallout 1? Fallout explicitly talks about technology being lost after the great war. The brotherhood's initial job was just reintroducing it to the wasteland at a controlled pace because people would otherwise misuse it. Technology resources and the lack thereof make up a major part of how different people in the wasteland get by. Tankbuster fucked around with this message at 06:05 on Apr 12, 2024 |
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Tankbuster posted:yeah how come they didn't just use the FEV to grow lisa simpson sized world hunger ending tomatoes after fallout 1? Yea you aren’t even arguing in good faith for fun for a franchise we enjoy. Like a fun “let’s talk about lore”. You’re just being a dick
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Entorwellian posted:It's been posted already, but I can't tell you how much this brought a smile to my face at the end (major spoiler): Major spoiler? Out of context that is tiny little wafer thin spoiler at best.
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the character in the place is introduced in said episode and is clearly being set up for the next season.
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Rabid Snake posted:Yea you aren’t even arguing in good faith for fun for a franchise we enjoy. Like a fun “let’s talk about lore”. You’re just being a dick Some people keep framing it as an argument about the minutia of lore and the importance of Canon or remaking a game but no, I just think that as entirely narrative decision it's a weirdly almost spiteful one that makes the setting and story smaller without much good benefit. Cutting a lot of threads with a hacksaw.
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Rabid Snake posted:Yea you aren’t even arguing in good faith for fun for a franchise we enjoy. Like a fun “let’s talk about lore”. You’re just being a dick my point was that rebuilding things would always be difficult in an actual post apocalypse, especially one that says that resources were on the verge of destruction. I can see it handwaved away in service of story because the setting isn't hard sci-fi but vibes based - but arguing over what is realistic is a fools errand.
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I dont even think the idea itself is that bad, my main problem with it comes down to the execution and general portrayal of things that the show goes for. It serves its function but in a messy, less interesting way than it could have gone. It's not about the details or about the why, but about how it happened. How something is described or presented is as important as what that something actually is. A good idea presented badly can damage the intended meaning.
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Arc Hammer posted:I dont even think the idea itself is that bad, my main problem with it comes down to the execution and general portrayal of things that the show goes for. It serves its function but in a messy, less interesting way than it could have gone. It's not about the details or about the why, but about how it happened. It's taking a running narrative thats a small bit complicated and squishing it into a flatter simpler shape in a very sudden way, a lot gets lost in the process that could have been great content.
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Tankbuster posted:my point was that rebuilding things would always be difficult in an actual post apocalypse, especially one that says that resources were on the verge of destruction. I can see it handwaved away in service of story because the setting isn't hard sci-fi but vibes based - but arguing over what is realistic is a fools errand. This ignores everything what I said and also many others who responded to me. I’m not gonna fall for bait again so I won’t respond again
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Dongicus posted:Looks like poo poo
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Sharkopath posted:Some people keep framing it as an argument about the minutia of lore and the importance of Canon or remaking a game but no, I just think that as entirely narrative decision it's a weirdly almost spiteful one that makes the setting and story smaller without much good benefit. Given this is framed as being in continuity -- essentially a sequel -- I think it's not even really about framing it in terms of "lore". It's just story.
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BB2K posted:I love fallout New vegas and I like this show, it's good and fun and it's not like there's gonna be another good fallout game again anyway
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Sharkopath posted:It's taking a running narrative thats a small bit complicated and squishing it into a flatter simpler shape in a very sudden way, a lot gets lost in the process that could have been great content. Yeah I agree with both of these points. The broad idea of the major change to the setting is fine, but it just seemed to be done in a bit of an off handed not very intresting way, and it seem like it was possible done just to keep the setting simpler, which at the point just set it somewhere else. But yeah honestly It's I find it to be a pretty minor thing. Over all I liked the setting, charcter's and tone. The main idea for the plot was bit 'eh, but I liked the charcter stories and arcs which is usally more important for these sort of adventure/comedy/ post apocalyptic western type things. Also the pre-war back story stuff I thought was nicely done. A good mix of happy 50's Americana and the undercurrent of everyone knowing things are actually really hosed and the worlds possibly about to end at any minute.
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Sharkopath posted:Some people keep framing it as an argument about the minutia of lore and the importance of Canon or remaking a game but no, I just think that as entirely narrative decision it's a weirdly almost spiteful one that makes the setting and story smaller without much good benefit. This, pretty much. Canon sounds important, but isn't really relevant. Todd was entertaining retirement in interviews for his space game. Whoever replaces him, now or later, could be retconning left and right for all we know. What matters is if the story we're getting right now is fun and good.
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Enjoyed the show overall. (All eps) I also think blowing up the NCR offscreen is loving stupid--the fall of the NCR isn't a problem, the problem is that's an interesting story and just yadda-yaddaing it away is the worst way you could possibly handle it. Not a huge fan of the retcon with the cold fusion thing either but whatever.
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Dr.Smasher posted:I'm two episodes in and enjoying it so far. The little poo poo like the guy getting blasted by someone with a Junkjet was great I enjoyed this memberberry too, probably because I think the junkjet concept was one of the genuinely fun and novel ideas in the Beth games and it is too butt ugly to make into merch.
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Am I the only person who saw FIRST CAPITAL OF THE NEW CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC on the Shady Sands billboard? (e5 about 23 minutes in.) They presumably had another one after that. Or still have.
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moths posted:Am I the only person who saw FIRST CAPITAL OF THE NEW CALIFORNIA REPUBLIC on the Shady Sands billboard? (e5 about 23 minutes in.) Possibly but (e8) it does seem like the NCR is at least gone from the area. While the last group was flying the NCR flag at the battle in the end, no one around seemed to know they were looking to represent the NCR. They were just known as this well known criminal group run by a well known criminal lady. As the next season -if there is hopfully a next one- seems like it might be set in or around New vegas or what ever is left to it, might see some NCR remnants. ... I swear to god someone better not of randomly of nuked Goodsprings too. 
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Just finished the season. I really enjoyed it. Sucks for the weirdos who let some of the details ruin it for them. I think they knocked it out of the park. I'm not a big lore buff, I just think the fallout universe is cool. Can't wait for season 2.
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