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Tighclops posted:"What does God need with a starship?" is an all loving timer and justifies the movie's existence entirely by itself 
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Delsaber posted:I go hiking fairly regularly these days and the number of times I've gotten to a viewpoint and had to resist yelling "WE HAVE TRAVELED FAR!" at the top of my lungs is really getting up there. Dude just give yourself a holler once or twice What, are the bears gonna file a complaint?
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"What does God need with a starship?" and this are the 2 reasons that movie have reason to exist: https://getyarn.io/yarn-clip/88697c98-18fd-45a0-a979-5e279a2f0e3b
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Just hit Captain's Holiday in my rewatch. It's a fun episode and all (and REALLY makes me think of Who Mourns For Morn) but it does make me wonder why they put in that vash had to pay to get to Risa. Who is she paying, what is she paying?
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Taear posted:Just hit Captain's Holiday in my rewatch. It's a fun episode and all (and REALLY makes me think of Who Mourns For Morn) but it does make me wonder why they put in that vash had to pay to get to Risa. Worf to stay away, with bottles of the finest prune juice.
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Taear posted:Just hit Captain's Holiday in my rewatch. It's a fun episode and all (and REALLY makes me think of Who Mourns For Morn) but it does make me wonder why they put in that vash had to pay to get to Risa. She did? When does it say that? Presumably she had to pay to take some kind of non-Federation transport.
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Lowen SoDium posted:"What does God need with a starship?" and this are the 2 reasons that movie have reason to exist:
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Jimbone Tallshanks posted:She did? When does it say that? She says "it's very expensive to get to Risa" And she wants the mcguffin to sell
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I was raised to be a Trekkie, but I never actually watched TOS. It just wasn't in syndication in my area. But I'm familiar with a lot of the content of TOS because I saw the movies, I played Star Trek games on my dad's Apple II, I even have a copy of the comic book where Spock uses Vulcan Voodoo. (I have seen "The Cage" because I rented it on VHS.) So I've been slowly watching TOS and it's crazy. I just finished "The Naked Time" and the infection is basically just a metaphor for the stresses that a starship crew are under every day. Toward the end, McCoy even compares the effect to simple drunkenness--and then Spock makes advances in applied physics in a few minutes through the power of getting drunk and talking about his feelings.
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Knormal posted:I'm so glad that clip wasn't what I was afraid it would be. 
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The Measure of a Man is a very good episode of Star Trek. I'm not sure why we had to revisit Maddox himself and have him murdered in Picard, but I am glad that he did not dissect Data.
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"Measure of a Man" really bothered me as a kid because I assumed Starfleet would have answered these questions of personhood (correctly) already. Is "The Enemy Within" actually considered a good episode? Everything about this is the wrong kind of stupid. Even the goofy little dog alien fails to be endearing. Anyway, bring back Lal and give her a show.
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I consider Enemy Within to be a good episode with one exception (which I've talked about before): Spock's ""joke"" at the end of the episode at Rand's expense. That's one of the worst parts of the entire series for me - far more so than the infamous cheese in the third season.
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Halloween Jack posted:I was raised to be a Trekkie, but I never actually watched TOS. It just wasn't in syndication in my area. But I'm familiar with a lot of the content of TOS because I saw the movies, I played Star Trek games on my dad's Apple II, I even have a copy of the comic book where Spock uses Vulcan Voodoo. (I have seen "The Cage" because I rented it on VHS.) Hell yeah. TOS is the best.
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feedmyleg posted:Hell yeah. TOS is the best. At being bad! I just can't connect to the 60s aesthetic of it. The films click for me quite well and there are episodes of TOS that work but for the most part i'm just cringing
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That's a you problem
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TOS is so good. I can only handle a little bit at a time because the campiness levels are off the charts. I love that.
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Halloween Jack posted:"Measure of a Man" really bothered me as a kid because I assumed Starfleet would have answered these questions of personhood (correctly) already. It's such a contrived episode that largely works based on Picard's speech at the end. Everything up to that is absurd - "We apparently never bothered determining whether this guy was a sapient being before commissioning him as an officer, promoting him several times, and making him third in command of the flagship. Also, rather than having actual lawyers or experts consider his case, we're just going to randomly grab two officers to handle it all. And if the prosecutor doesn't do a good enough job, I'm going to rule in their favor."
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Measure of A Man is a remake of sorts of Court Martial, with several of the plot beats left in place. But MoAM is a better episode and the court drama more believable ("computers never lie!"  ).
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Taear posted:At being bad! skill issue
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Measure of A Man is a remake of sorts of Court Martial, with several of the plot beats left in place. But MoAM is a better episode and the court drama more believable ("computers never lie!" The computer did lie though. Like I see where you’re coming from, this is a bunch of confused messaging about computers that probably stems from someone whose total computing experience didn’t extend beyond a pocket calculator. But I don’t think it’s innately unreasonable that Starfleet justice would trust its computers until evidence was presented that they shouldn’t…the writers just had no clue what that sort of evidence would look like. Unfortunately the human element of “Court Martial” makes no sense at all. I think I posted about this before, maybe in the last thread, but the villain’s cunning plan is beyond nonsense, nobody could possibly think it would work. Also, Kirk’s attorney just disappears inexplicably for the climax of the episode while Kirk is permitted by the court to go off alone with a gun to settle accounts with the man he’s accused of killing in the first place!
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Oh good, I was worried they were going to come up with a coherent franchise strategy. https://blog.trekcore.com/2024/04/paramount-officially-adds-star-trek-origin-story-film-to-2025-release-slate/ quote:UNTITLED STAR TREK ORIGIN STORY Because what I really want is a Pike movie without anything that has made SNW special.
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Holy poo poo, enough prequels. Paramount seems loving terrified to do anything new that might carry any sort of risk. It's kind of amazing that Lower Decks happened.
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bull3964 posted:Oh good, I was worried they were going to come up with a coherent franchise strategy. It's not a Pike movie, it's a George Kirk movie.
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Pinterest Mom posted:It's not a Pike movie, it's a George Kirk movie. Nobody wants that either.
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WhiteHowler posted:Nobody wants that either. Exactly.
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I consider Enemy Within to be a good episode with one exception (which I've talked about before): Spock's ""joke"" at the end of the episode at Rand's expense. That's one of the worst parts of the entire series for me - far more so than the infamous cheese in the third season.
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I'm now kinda worried that if Skydance does buy Paramount, they are going to try to make the JJVerse a thing again and let's not. ST2009 could have been a neat ALT history Star Trek one shot, but they had to follow it up with the utterly dismal ST:ID which easily ranks below Nemesis as the worst ST move and possibly the worst ST anything put in front of a camera. Beyond had some good parts, but there's really no point in continuing with this. Also, is unclear if this is 10 years before the START of ST2009 or 10 years before the main events of ST2009. If it's the latter, it can't be George Kirk. If it's the former, then it's before the timeline split and we really don't need to be muddying the waters further on that.
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bull3964 posted:I'm now kinda worried that if Skydance does buy Paramount, they are going to try to make the JJVerse a thing again and let's not. Decades (plural) before Star Trek 2009.
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Oh, then we're gonna re-do ENT and manage to make it worse?
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Yeah, I was conflating two sources where one explicitly says 10 years. Kirk was 25 in the reboot universe during the events of ST2009, so decades could mean anywhere from right before the events at the start of the movie to George Kirk in the academy. If it is a George Kirk movie, again the question is why? He died at 29 as first officer and never knew his son. What's the narrative hook there? It's not like we can watch the person that made Kirk out to be the man that he was.
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Everything in popular sci-fi is about sacred bloodlines now.
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bull3964 posted:I'm now kinda worried that if Skydance does buy Paramount, they are going to try to make the JJVerse a thing again and let's not. Just fork the timelime again when, i dunno, the lower decks crew saves romulus or something, thus also invalidating picard as well
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Halloween Jack posted:Everything in popular sci-fi is about sacred bloodlines now. Ruling class ideology really has seeped into every aspect of culture It stinks
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I've been watching Foundation, where the main character makes the baffling decision to leave her life behind (that is, stay in cryosleep until everyone she knows is dead) so that she can meet her egg donor.
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Fighting Trousers posted:Oh, then we're gonna re-do ENT and manage to make it worse? It's a prequel, but not as much as Enterprise, but more than Strange New Worlds. A mid-pre-quel.
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bull3964 posted:the utterly dismal ST:ID which easily ranks below Nemesis as the worst ST move and possibly the worst ST anything put in front of a camera. Whoa, now, let's not say things we can't take back. There's quite a bit to like in Into Darkness, and as for "the worst ST anything put in front of a camera," These Are The Voyages..., Discovery and Picard are right there.
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Timby posted:Whoa, now, let's not say things we can't take back. There's quite a bit to like in Into Darkness Sure there is: seeing the end credits.
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