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It should be a probable offense to have a different opinion than me, or even worse have the same opinion as me but in an annoying way.
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you should be probated if you call WWE the rape company or the rape factory
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Apr 12, 2024 17:21
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why is everything so nuts in the forum this week lol
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Apr 12, 2024 17:24
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:you should be probated if you call WWE the rape company or the rape factory Why? It’s true
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Apr 12, 2024 17:26
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Ringo Roadagain posted:Why? It’s true It makes light of what actually happened and is probably a less effective way of getting across the message that WWE has permitted a culture of sexual assault, trafficking, abuse, misconduct and retaliation for four decades. I wouldn't say that whole thing any time I was disgusted with a person who doesn't care but I do think "rape factory" is not the way to get the point across. It's very flippant.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:28
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Is it purely a matter of language? Would you prefer "the assault company" or "the abuse company"?
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Apr 12, 2024 17:28
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MassRafTer posted:It makes light of what actually happened and is probably a less effective way of getting across the message that WWE has permitted a culture of sexual assault, trafficking, abuse, misconduct and retaliation for four decades. I wouldn't say that whole thing any time I was disgusted with a person who doesn't care but I do think "rape factory" is not the way to get the point across. It's very flippant.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:28
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MJeff posted:Is it purely a matter of language? Would you prefer "the assault company" or "the abuse company"? just call it the WWE dude trying to call it things like this just makes the whole thing look silly and its gross too. hyperbolic nonsense like this makes the entire situation with vince and the culture of abuse in professional wrestling look stupid instead of serious
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Apr 12, 2024 17:30
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Ringo Roadagain posted:Why? It’s true Well, because it's tasteless and comes across as flippant.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:31
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MJeff posted:Is it purely a matter of language? Would you prefer "the assault company" or "the abuse company"? Frankly I think if you actually want to make a point about something so serious and you think someone is supporting WWE by watching the product and posting about it (which they are) you should take the time to say what you mean rather than try to distill it down to a phrase that looks like it is out of 2002 GBS.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:31
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MassRafTer posted:It makes light of what actually happened and is probably a less effective way of getting across the message that WWE has permitted a culture of sexual assault, trafficking, abuse, misconduct and retaliation for four decades. I wouldn't say that whole thing any time I was disgusted with a person who doesn't care but I do think "rape factory" is not the way to get the point across. It's very flippant. Should it be probe-able though?
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Apr 12, 2024 17:32
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it should because its stupid
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Apr 12, 2024 17:33
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MassRafTer posted:Frankly I think if you actually want to make a point about something so serious and you think someone is supporting WWE by watching the product and posting about it (which they are) you should take the time to say what you mean rather than try to distill it down to a phrase that looks like it is out of 2002 GBS. Come on you’ve been calling it the big trump fundraiser for years
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Apr 12, 2024 17:34
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do you really not see a difference between those two things
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Apr 12, 2024 17:35
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MJeff posted:Is it purely a matter of language? Would you prefer "the assault company" or "the abuse company"? I think boiling it down to 3 words suggests you're using the topic for point scoring rather than taking it seriously. Which I don't think you are but it gives that impression. Like MRT said, it's far too flippant for a horrifically serious issue. Yes, people should feel bad for investing time on a company that has overseen decades of absolutely horrifying behaviour, both from talent & management. If the forum isn't going to just ban all discussion of the WWE, & I doubt there's much actual desire for that, then I'm not sure there's really anything to be gained from repeating a very reductive version in a very glib fashion. Everyone here knows about the accusations, the stories, the vile behaviour that's gone on there going all the way back to the Ring Boy Scandal if not even before. If people want to still ignore that in order to watch a bad version of professional wrestling then that's between them & their conscience. For the record, I'm totally fine with this just becoming a WWE free zone but 
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Apr 12, 2024 17:35
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Sisal Two-Step posted:do you really not see a difference between those two things No. Unless you think giving Trump millions of dollars is just a big joke
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Apr 12, 2024 17:38
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Ringo Roadagain posted:Come on you’ve been calling it the big trump fundraiser for years I don't think using a flippant term about the company donating record amounts to the Trump Foundation and the company's profits being funneled into the Trump campaigns and PAC is on the same level as being flippant about widespread sexual abuse. I know people make lots of Epstein and other jokes, and it probably shouldn't be something people get probation for but I do think it is in bad taste.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:40
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after they just gave him $250 million we can meet in the middle and call wwe the vince mcmahon legal defense fund
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Apr 12, 2024 17:40
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MassRafTer posted:I don't think using a flippant term about the company donating record amounts to the Trump Foundation and the company's profits being funneled into the Trump campaigns and PAC is on the same level as being flippant about widespread sexual abuse. I know people make lots of Epstein and other jokes, and it probably shouldn't be something people get probation for but I do think it is in bad taste. I agree
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Apr 12, 2024 17:41
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Ringo Roadagain posted:No. Unless you think giving Trump millions of dollars is just a big joke Let me put this another way. Do you not see a difference in the mental images conjured by the phrase "trump fundraiser" vs "rape factory"?
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Apr 12, 2024 17:41
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Sisal Two-Step posted:Let me put this another way. Do you not see a difference in the mental images conjured by the phrase "trump fundraiser" vs "rape factory"? I mean if we ignore all the rape surounding trump, I guess. But whatever. I said I agree with mrt’s last post
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Apr 12, 2024 17:44
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forkboy84 posted:For the record, I'm totally fine with this just becoming a WWE free zone but This is the way, and I say that as someone who watches WWE. There is clearly no desire to actually discuss the product here, so keep the Vince/company culture thread open and nuke the others
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Apr 12, 2024 17:44
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Sisal Two-Step posted:Let me put this another way. Do you not see a difference in the mental images conjured by the phrase "trump fundraiser" vs "rape factory"? It's this. There's a huge difference in what comes to mind and it's bad taste in a way that isn't funny and is very uncomfortable and alienating. I'd prefer people treat the situation with some gravity, and again at least keep language like that in the marked thread. I have a high tolerance for, well, The Internet, but I think we can do better without flippantly using charged language as a cudgel that affects not only those you're using it against but those that have to read it as well. JUNGLE BOY posted:after they just gave him $250 million we can meet in the middle and call wwe the vince mcmahon legal defense fund 
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Apr 12, 2024 17:47
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JUNGLE BOY posted:after they just gave him $250 million we can meet in the middle and call wwe the vince mcmahon legal defense fund This works
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Apr 12, 2024 17:48
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Ringo Roadagain posted:I mean if we ignore all the rape surounding trump, I guess. oh my god
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Apr 12, 2024 17:49
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It's a dumb turn of phrase used by people who do things like buy WWE stock and then get mad at people for posting. Be original in your attacks.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:51
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illcendiary posted:This is the way, and I say that as someone who watches WWE. There is clearly no desire to actually discuss the product here, so keep the Vince/company culture thread open and nuke the others Wouldn't that need to be a blanket ban on all TKO holdings threads?
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Apr 12, 2024 17:52
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I’m just curious why 16bbh is here saying that calling wwe “rape factory” should get you probed, but doesn’t seem to have a problem with people making jokes referencing very specific crimes of Vince like thisquote:having vince poo poo on my head as I whip my head around for full coverage "I AM PROMISED IN SAD, WITNESS!!!" and I leap from the beltbuckle into wrestlehut with explosives lances
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Apr 12, 2024 17:54
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Mr Hootington posted:Wouldn't that need to be a blanket ban on all TKO holdings threads? No?
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Apr 12, 2024 17:55
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lmao when we start hearing about “the crews” you know it’s gonna get silly fast
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Ringo Roadagain posted:I’m just curious why 16bbh is here saying that calling wwe “rape factory” should get you probed, but doesn’t seem to have a problem with people making jokes referencing very specific crimes of Vince like this disgusting post
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Ringo Roadagain posted:I’m just curious why 16bbh is here saying that calling wwe “rape factory” should get you probed, but doesn’t seem to have a problem with people making jokes referencing very specific crimes of Vince like this 
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Ringo Roadagain posted:I’m just curious why 16bbh is here saying that calling wwe “rape factory” should get you probed, but doesn’t seem to have a problem with people making jokes referencing very specific crimes of Vince like this i think he explained it already, as have other people. What point are you trying to make?
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16-bit Butt-Head posted:just call it the WWE dude trying to call it things like this just makes the whole thing look silly and its gross too. hyperbolic nonsense like this makes the entire situation with vince and the culture of abuse in professional wrestling look stupid instead of serious MassRafTer posted:Frankly I think if you actually want to make a point about something so serious and you think someone is supporting WWE by watching the product and posting about it (which they are) you should take the time to say what you mean rather than try to distill it down to a phrase that looks like it is out of 2002 GBS. Fair enough. I don't know that I necessarily agree 100%, but I understand the logic. I'll be less pithy and more unambiguous about this going forward and encourage others to do the same.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:58
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MJeff posted:Fair enough. I don't know that I necessarily agree 100%, but I understand the logic. I'll be less pithy and more unambiguous about this going forward and encourage others to do the same. I genuinely appreciate it.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:59
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Why not? TKO is what paid Vince recently with the stock buybacks and they aren't just generating money from WWE content. They own the territory and WCW archives and UFC PPV have to be giving them a good chunk of change.
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Apr 12, 2024 17:59
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I've already been accused of being "Reddit-tastic", I don't have any plans on doing the thing that lead to the creation of r/squaredcircle.
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Apr 12, 2024 18:01
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Mr Hootington posted:Why not? TKO is what paid Vince recently with the stock buybacks and they aren't just generating money from WWE content. They own the territory and WCW archives and UFC PPV have to be giving them a good chunk of change. no on except that guy who is a fan of wwe is calling for a ban on wwe discussion, no need for the bad faith shtick
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Apr 12, 2024 18:02
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Mr Hootington posted:Why not? TKO is what paid Vince recently with the stock buybacks and they aren't just generating money from WWE content. They own the territory and WCW archives and UFC PPV have to be giving them a good chunk of change. WCW doesn't exist anymore and Vince McMahon didn't run UFC and mold its culture in his image for 40 years. This is all academic because banning WWE discussion from this forum is obviously not being considered as a real option.
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IGgy IGsen posted:i think he explained it already, as have other people. What point are you trying to make? Other people have, and I agreed with them. 16bbh however has not explained why he cares about people calling wwe rape factory but not people making jokes involving specific things vince did to his victim
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