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Bucnasti
Aug 14, 2012

I'll Fetch My Sarcasm Robes

The Demilich posted:

I finally cleaned out my sotar 2020 and the drat thing is sticking like crazy. What's worse is I can't figure out which end bits go with which needles since it's been such a long time.

Thats a bad place to be, nozzles and needles need to be in matched pairs or you're going to have a real bad time, especially on the delicage 2020.
I honestly have no idea how to determine which goes with which. Whenever i swap needles I always keep the nozzle in the same tube with it.

I suppose you could try each needle with each nozzle and compare how much of the needle sticks out, trial and error would probably get you a good idea of which is which.

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Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Lostconfused posted:

It's cool how you can clearly tell that games-workshop learned from the Krieg kill team kit by making improvements to the Kasrkin and Cadian designs by adding stuff like indents into arms and lasguns that go across the models chest and make them fit cleanly.

That is Necromunda tech. Don't know why they wouldn't do that for possibly the most-anticipated sprue for Imperial Guard ever, but fucka engineering I guess.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Bucnasti posted:

Thats a bad place to be, nozzles and needles need to be in matched pairs or you're going to have a real bad time, especially on the delicage 2020.
I honestly have no idea how to determine which goes with which. Whenever i swap needles I always keep the nozzle in the same tube with it.

I suppose you could try each needle with each nozzle and compare how much of the needle sticks out, trial and error would probably get you a good idea of which is which.

Yeah I feel like trial and error or matching up parts with online images may be the only viable options. I have all three needle sizes too so it'll be a real pain in the rear end. I'll hopefully figure it out tomorrow

At least I made a little more progress on my Killrig tonight though!

Red lines are where I might add more teeth to break up the roundness of the vehicle. I'm not really sure what else I could do up there, I should search out some other kitbashes for inspiration. I wonder if I should throw some teeth above the doors now as well.

Blue will be smoke

The purple question marks are, well, questionable. In the rear I have a random arm thing I found, it's the biggest orky bit I have and I figured a grabby arm of some sort might work just to liven the rear end end of the vehicle up. The front is a gun I found in my bits box, but I need to make a housing for it. Greenstuff cabling is a given, but my first attempt at a making a box out of plasticard for it to sit in looked really bad so I removed it and just threw it on some blue tack for now. The idea is going to be the engine is a nuclear reactor and the gun is powered by the excess waste heat from it being turboclocked, and it can swivel around and fire at stuff from some controls in the cab. I haven't picked out the gretchen for the cockpit yet so here's hoping they fit!

I also finished up 30x bases for my Iron Warriors, the Onager Dunecrawler is now done, and I touched up the Lord Discordant base as well so I'm pretty happy.

protomexican
May 1, 2009

protomexican posted:

Pure speculation, but the Ork archetypes that pop into my head are:

Green tide - just masses of green bodies
Speedwaaagh! - Bikes, Buggies, Battlewagons
Dredd mob - all the various walkers, possibly Bad Moonz themed
Snaggas & Squigs
Kommandos w/ fall back and shoot & redeployment shenanigans

I don't think the detachments they come up with for the codex will stray too far from the list above.

Heck yeah I was mostly right. I'm excited that green tide is back, as I've got a Costco amount of Boyz.

What are orks gonna do for shooting now that Badrukk is going away?

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Robert Facepalmer posted:

That is Necromunda tech. Don't know why they wouldn't do that for possibly the most-anticipated sprue for Imperial Guard ever, but fucka engineering I guess.

A lot of plastic designs are planned like 3 years in advance so even if they learned lessons immediately on release it would take years for the improved practice to filter back through the design pipeline.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



The Demilich posted:

Yeah I feel like trial and error or matching up parts with online images may be the only viable options. I have all three needle sizes too so it'll be a real pain in the rear end. I'll hopefully figure it out tomorrow

At least I made a little more progress on my Killrig tonight though!

Red lines are where I might add more teeth to break up the roundness of the vehicle. I'm not really sure what else I could do up there, I should search out some other kitbashes for inspiration. I wonder if I should throw some teeth above the doors now as well.

Blue will be smoke

The purple question marks are, well, questionable. In the rear I have a random arm thing I found, it's the biggest orky bit I have and I figured a grabby arm of some sort might work just to liven the rear end end of the vehicle up. The front is a gun I found in my bits box, but I need to make a housing for it. Greenstuff cabling is a given, but my first attempt at a making a box out of plasticard for it to sit in looked really bad so I removed it and just threw it on some blue tack for now. The idea is going to be the engine is a nuclear reactor and the gun is powered by the excess waste heat from it being turboclocked, and it can swivel around and fire at stuff from some controls in the cab. I haven't picked out the gretchen for the cockpit yet so here's hoping they fit!

I also finished up 30x bases for my Iron Warriors, the Onager Dunecrawler is now done, and I touched up the Lord Discordant base as well so I'm pretty happy.

I think the one thing throwing me on this right now is the tires. If you've got something you can either replace them with (wider) or a way to rough them up so they don't look like road tires, I think it would go a long way. A bit of mesh or something around the exhaust stacks would also do good work to my eyes. Something to give them more presence, since big chunky exhaust stacks are a staple of the 40k aesthetic.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



If you replace the back tires with tank tracks, you've gotten most of the way to a WW2 troop transport, but I'm not sure if ork trukks still carry passengers in that role.

You might also be able to pop the curved roof off and substitute a fighting platform?

Yvonmukluk
Oct 10, 2012

Everything is Sinister


moths posted:

If you replace the back tires with tank tracks, you've gotten most of the way to a WW2 troop transport, but I'm not sure if ork trukks still carry passengers in that role.

Noted doctrinal purists, the Orks.

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style

Ominous Jazz posted:

i went to my local game store to pickup some paints and instead got the Les Grognards to start an Astra Militarum army. I really don't know poo poo though. Still, am excited to learn. And also to paint little french spacemen. I was thinking of getting a Veteran Guard KT as well as a way to learn the basics (and you can use them IN 40k from what I gathered). but boy do i not know poo poo about this.

Update: I still don't really know poo poo and it's intimidating. I just found out today that you don't need to put the guns and weapons you'll use on the minis. Learning more about army building for a 1k of guardsman but I think my store does an escalation league that I can join.

I grabbed Les Grognards Heavy Weapons and Command so I'll have commanders and heavy weapons and women in my army.

bird food bathtub
Aug 9, 2003

College Slice

The Demilich posted:

Yeah I feel like trial and error or matching up parts with online images may be the only viable options. I have all three needle sizes too so it'll be a real pain in the rear end. I'll hopefully figure it out tomorrow

At least I made a little more progress on my Killrig tonight though!

Red lines are where I might add more teeth to break up the roundness of the vehicle. I'm not really sure what else I could do up there, I should search out some other kitbashes for inspiration. I wonder if I should throw some teeth above the doors now as well.

Blue will be smoke

The purple question marks are, well, questionable. In the rear I have a random arm thing I found, it's the biggest orky bit I have and I figured a grabby arm of some sort might work just to liven the rear end end of the vehicle up. The front is a gun I found in my bits box, but I need to make a housing for it. Greenstuff cabling is a given, but my first attempt at a making a box out of plasticard for it to sit in looked really bad so I removed it and just threw it on some blue tack for now. The idea is going to be the engine is a nuclear reactor and the gun is powered by the excess waste heat from it being turboclocked, and it can swivel around and fire at stuff from some controls in the cab. I haven't picked out the gretchen for the cockpit yet so here's hoping they fit!

I also finished up 30x bases for my Iron Warriors, the Onager Dunecrawler is now done, and I touched up the Lord Discordant base as well so I'm pretty happy.

You've got Orks on a rig right here, and Mad Max Fury Road right over there. You know what needs to be done.

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
The top of that trukk needs a platform for your warboss

nostrata
Apr 27, 2007

TehRedWheelbarrow posted:

The top of that trukk needs a platform for your Goff Rocker

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches
i stand corrected :hmmyes:

Robert Facepalmer
Jan 10, 2019


Z the IVth posted:

A lot of plastic designs are planned like 3 years in advance so even if they learned lessons immediately on release it would take years for the improved practice to filter back through the design pipeline.

Cool. Copyright on the Eschers which have boolean cuts on their two-hand rifle poses is 2017, Krieg was 2021

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Cool. Copyright on the Eschers which have boolean cuts on their two-hand rifle poses is 2017, Krieg was 2021

Neat

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Oh yeah, I guess that's one really useful thing you can do with 3D modelling software.

Warmachine
Jan 30, 2012



TehRedWheelbarrow posted:

The top of that trukk needs a platform for your Goff Rocker with a burna.

And strap a Gretchen to the front grill.

The Demilich
Apr 9, 2020

The First Rites of Men Were Mortuary, the First Altars Tombs.



Warmachine posted:

I think the one thing throwing me on this right now is the tires. If you've got something you can either replace them with (wider) or a way to rough them up so they don't look like road tires, I think it would go a long way. A bit of mesh or something around the exhaust stacks would also do good work to my eyes. Something to give them more presence, since big chunky exhaust stacks are a staple of the 40k aesthetic.

The tires weren't done before, but now they are! I don't have spare tires that are bigger or treads at the ready, but I'm hoping the spiked rims and patches on the tread I've put on are adequate enough. I added some mesh around the exhaust stacks and made them larger as well.

moths posted:

If you replace the back tires with tank tracks, you've gotten most of the way to a WW2 troop transport, but I'm not sure if ork trukks still carry passengers in that role.

You might also be able to pop the curved roof off and substitute a fighting platform?

TehRedWheelbarrow posted:

The top of that trukk needs a platform for your warboss

I didn't think I could do it, BUT I DID since I managed to access a dremel.

bird food bathtub posted:

You've got Orks on a rig right here, and Mad Max Fury Road right over there. You know what needs to be done.

I need a Rocka. Or at least an stl for one since I've got a printer sitting in storage (still no location to set it up though or print safely). I was planning on throwing the vehicle weapon on the platform, a kustom Bubblechukka, but there should still be room for Orks and Gretchen on the platform. I realize I need an Ork driver model as well since the Gretchen I have doesn't fit very well in the driver seat

Warmachine posted:

And strap a Gretchen to the front grill.

I don't have a spare that I can manipulate in such a way, but maybe I can finagle an old MK3 marine in there.


Here's the updated rig:

I still need to add walls on the platform, plus the weapon of course.

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

The Demilich posted:

I am however out of orky weapons and need to figure out what else to do with this. I'm thinking barbed wire strung across the front of the truck (help on by the armor jutting out the front). Guns should obviously go on the top of the cab and on the panels above the front tires. I should also put one where the trailer pin goes. I have to add some spikes to the rims as well

base guitar string makes great rebar. you can get tons of scale plastic I-beam at modeling stores. you can just have orks holding weapons riding on it warboys-style, if you need more guns.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Seems like Da Orkz is eatin' good this edition!

I wonder if zogrod and his grots got any boosts this edition

Professor Shark
May 22, 2012

Is it the Warboss Warbike kit that comes with a grot waving a wrench? I feel that would be appropriate. More grotz trying to do basic maintenance while driving.

Trukk looks awesome so far, can’t wait to see it painted!

Samuel L. Hacksaw
Mar 26, 2007

Never Stop Posting

Professor Shark posted:

Is it the Warboss Warbike kit that comes with a grot waving a wrench? I feel that would be appropriate. More grotz trying to do basic maintenance while driving.

Trukk looks awesome so far, can’t wait to see it painted!

The battlewagon kit has one of those for sure.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

Robert Facepalmer posted:

Cool. Copyright on the Eschers which have boolean cuts on their two-hand rifle poses is 2017, Krieg was 2021

That's the date the moulds were cut. Who knows when someone actually did the modelling (or planning). Or even if the design teams for 40k and Specialist Games are the same.

Ominous Jazz
Jun 15, 2011

Big D is chillin' over here
Wasteland style
some guy is selling a space nuns combat patrol box for 80 bucks with shipping and now i'm thinking of the adepta sororitas but i'm not wracked with catholic guilt so a lot of it seems gauche.
seems like a crazy good deal that will jump start my "knowing how to 40k" but idk about the space nuns. do they play different enough from the imperial guards that i wouldn't be double dipping? i don't want TWO armies with a million little people running around

edit: i really botched the formatting here my bad

Ominous Jazz fucked around with this message at 17:43 on Apr 12, 2024

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Haven't had much time to paint for the last several weeks but I finally got this guy done after owning him for 2 months.





He's a big departure from my normally bright blue Nids but I figured the stealth bug should look a little different.

srypher
Jun 3, 2011

Really?
Ork Codex looks great but I'm a little bummed we're losing Badruk. Badruk w/ 10 flash gitz was one of my favorite units to use in 10th

Cease to Hope
Dec 12, 2011

Ominous Jazz posted:

seems like a crazy good deal that will jump start my "knowing how to 40k" but idk about the space nuns. do they play different enough from the imperial guards that i wouldn't be double dipping? i don't want TWO armies with a million little people running around

they can be a little swarmy but mostly they are middling-size. they have very efficient units that need to get close to do work and are very likely to end up getting killed in doing so. to offset this fragility, you get bonuses for your units dying. the only army i think they particularly resemble is votann.

this *might* overlap with how you play guard, especially if you run lots of kasrkin and scions and sentinels and ogryn but i kinda doubt it!

IncredibleIgloo
Feb 17, 2011





Ominous Jazz posted:

some guy is selling a space nuns combat patrol box for 80 bucks with shipping and now i'm thinking of the adepta sororitas but i'm not wracked with catholic guilt so a lot of it seems gauche.
seems like a crazy good deal that will jump start my "knowing how to 40k" but idk about the space nuns. do they play different enough from the imperial guards that i wouldn't be double dipping? i don't want TWO armies with a million little people running around

edit: i really botched the formatting here my bad

80 bucks is a screaming deal, that is like 50% off MSRP. If you think they would be enjoyable to paint I would say pick em up. Their playstyle is different than Imperial Guard, but not the most different. Worst case scenario, even if you are not a super fan of the playstyle, having the combat patrol gives you a "guest" army if you want to introduce other people to the game, or play with people just getting started.

GO FUCK YOURSELF
Aug 19, 2004

"I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who beat you, and pray for them to beat the shit out of the Buckeyes" - The Book of Witten
Is this the weekend that preorders for the Custodes and Ork codexes go live? I sometimes find it hard to figure out when I need to park myself in front of my computer to get access to stuff.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

Yes the pre-orders should be going up in a few hours.

Local stores have already started taking orders sunday/monday.

Going to have a bit of a chuckle when Kasrkin get a cost bump in a week or two.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS

Ominous Jazz posted:

some guy is selling a space nuns combat patrol box for 80 bucks with shipping and now i'm thinking of the adepta sororitas but i'm not wracked with catholic guilt so a lot of it seems gauche.
seems like a crazy good deal that will jump start my "knowing how to 40k" but idk about the space nuns. do they play different enough from the imperial guards that i wouldn't be double dipping? i don't want TWO armies with a million little people running around

edit: i really botched the formatting here my bad

They're supposed to be super gauche even if you're wracked with Catholic guilt

Their artillery tank is a motorized organ that shoots rockets out of the pipes fired by the organist

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Eej posted:

They're supposed to be super gauche even if you're wracked with Catholic guilt

Their artillery tank is a motorized organ that shoots rockets out of the pipes fired by the organist

All organs can do this, you just need to push the right combination of buttons to unlock the stratagem.

Eej
Jun 17, 2007

HEAVYARMS


My first bloodletter! He's not unique but he's mine

Jeff Wiiver
Jul 13, 2007

Lostconfused posted:

Yes the pre-orders should be going up in a few hours.

Local stores have already started taking orders sunday/monday.

Going to have a bit of a chuckle when Kasrkin get a cost bump in a week or two.
I believe preorders go live Saturday at 1pm EST, unless I'm missing something.

Would be amazing if Games Workshop would just have this info on their site, but that's asking a lot I guess.

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Jeff Wiiver posted:

I believe preorders go live Saturday at 1pm EST, unless I'm missing something.

Would be amazing if Games Workshop would just have this info on their site, but that's asking a lot I guess.

It's 10am local time; 10 BST for the UK, 10 CEST for Europe, etc

For North America they use 10 PST, I assume so the east coast doesn't grab everything first

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
I'm only getting cards and codex for orks so there's no rush for me to pre-order.

Cooked Auto
Aug 4, 2007

https://www.goonhammer.com/codex-adeptus-custodes-10th-edition-the-goonhammer-review/

Goonhammer goes into the food blogging business by reviewing Custard.

bessantj
Jul 27, 2004


Is there an easy way to tell the difference between Chaos Havoc Marines and Chaos Space Marine heavy support minis or are they pretty interchangeable?

Geisladisk
Sep 15, 2007

bessantj posted:

Is there an easy way to tell the difference between Chaos Havoc Marines and Chaos Space Marine heavy support minis or are they pretty interchangeable?

Totally interchangeable.

The only difference between regular marines and Havoks (other than the heavy weapons, obviously) is that the Havoks have clawed feet (supposedly to grip the ground for more stability) and helmets with fancy cables and optics.

That absolutely does not matter and Havoks are just a squad of CSMs with heavy weapons.

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Mercurius
May 4, 2004

Amp it up.

Geisladisk posted:

Totally interchangeable.

The only difference between regular marines and Havoks (other than the heavy weapons, obviously) is that the Havoks have clawed feet (supposedly to grip the ground for more stability) and helmets with fancy cables and optics.

That absolutely does not matter and Havoks are just a squad of CSMs with heavy weapons.
Weapons and appearance-wise you’re correct but the models themselves (along with Chosen and Possessed) are also ever so slightly bigger scale-wise than regular CSM Legionaries.

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