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Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Modal Auxiliary posted:

There's a good article here. poo poo is deplorable beyond my wildest imagination.

Can someone better at legalese distill this? I’m interested to know how 4 pedophile judges with their names and everything wrote an opinion justifying “child rape is okay as long as you’re a priest.”

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Hollismason
Jun 30, 2007
An alright dude.

Hazo posted:

Can someone better at legalese distill this? I’m interested to know how 4 pedophile judges with their names and everything wrote an opinion justifying “child rape is okay as long as you’re a priest.”

Basically they said that the priests and church's right to not be sued outweighs the plaintiffs right to sue.

That's it pretty much.

RocketMermaid
Mar 30, 2004

My pronouns are She/Heir.


And these assholes have the temerity to call trans people groomers when they're giving themselves legal leeway to be overt predators.

Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

kazil posted:

lol DJT ended the day up 0.56%

Someone is going to spend all weekend haunted by the fear of missing out and dump the remainder of their savings into it on Monday.

Agents are GO!
Dec 29, 2004


Anyone else think this was the lepers colony for a sec?

sugar free jazz posted:

god I hope they record and post that Johnson getting brutally crushed and destroyed by margorie

Already happened under an obscure congressional rule, Google "Johnson destroyed rule 34" for more info.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

Agents are GO! posted:

Anyone else think this was the lepers colony for a sec?


it does say Florida 4 times.

weg
Jun 6, 2006

Reassisted Retrogression

Agents are GO! posted:

Anyone else think this was the lepers colony for a sec?

The Reapers Colony

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



RocketMermaid posted:

And these assholes have the temerity to call trans people groomers when they're giving themselves legal leeway to be overt predators.
The theory that most of these guys are molesters who assume everyone else is one too, or would be given the chance, seems plausible to me at this point

pop fly to McGillicutty
Feb 2, 2004

A peckish little mouse!

Hollismason posted:

Basically they said that the priests and church's right to not be sued outweighs the plaintiffs right to sue.

That's it pretty much.

Yeah it's this. This is the most disgusting honest to goodness actual Gilead levels of Christo-fascist bullshit.

Rivethead
Feb 22, 2008

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.
The LA supreme court case said that the legislature cannot extend statutes of limitations retroactively. That is, people have a year to sue a priest for loving them. After a year, the statute of limitations is up and they cannot sue anymore. Lousiana calls the situation an accrued prescription. Since an accrued prescription is a property right, the legislature cannot retroactively change it.

This is dumb as gently caress, but that’s the reasoning. Prospectively people should have a larger window to sue priests, but the ones who ducked a suit long enough in the past are now scott free in LA.

Scags McDouglas
Sep 9, 2012

-2 lol's until Trumpington's Birthday. A shameful event.

Philthy posted:

Why doesn't the DNC just move their date up to July or June or some poo poo if so many states are threatening to not have Biden on the ballot.

I'm basing this off of my cheese brain and not sources but most candidates enjoy a post-convention bump that quickly dies off. IIRC it was one of the rare times McCain had a lead- so candidates like holding that till right before the buzzer.

Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006


Half of the US Supreme Court is devoutly Catholic (Coney-Barrett, Thomas, Kavanaugh, and Roberts.) I am sure that their faith doesn't factor into their decision making at work, right?

At any rate Catholic churches and schools are closing at a pretty good rate due to fewer people attending church.

https://www.ctpublic.org/2022-06-05/catholic-church-closures-spread-in-the-northeast-and-midwest-not-all-are-upset

Also this Archdiocese sold property to a casino, which I find amusing.

https://www.norwichdiocese.org/Reorganization

Sedgr
Sep 16, 2007

Neat!

It's like conservative christians religious fundamentalists are all hiding and protecting the same thing and that thing is their inalienable right to rape and sexually control others. Cruelty and suffering are the point. It's their fetish.

actually3raccoons
Jun 5, 2013



Sedgr posted:

It's like conservative christians religious fundamentalists are all hiding and protecting the same thing and that thing is their inalienable right to rape and sexually control others. Cruelty and suffering are the point. It's their fetish.

It’s easy when your religion says that you can commit any act, no matter how vile, and if you ask daddy nicely enough you’re off scott free.

Toxic Mental
Jun 1, 2019

sitting in lotus yoga pose expanding my consciousness to the reaches of the stargates to be able to fit all the lols that will be given to me next week

Serious_Cyclone
Oct 25, 2017

I appreciate your patience, this is a tricky maneuver
I still cannot wrap my brain around how anyone could invest themselves into an organization that works so incredibly hard to aid and protect child molesters. I have a SIL who is a classic geriatric Millennial liberal who goes on and on about I/P to anybody who will listen or just posts it into the Facebook void for nobody in particular, but she is a practicing Catholic and I just can't.

canyoneer
Sep 13, 2005


I only have canyoneyes for you
Louisiana law (especially property) is a nonsensical amalgamation of English and French common law.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

look at this poo poo

LifeSunDeath
Jan 4, 2007

still gay rights and smoke weed every day

kazil posted:

look at this poo poo


normal guy

dervival
Apr 23, 2014

kazil posted:

look at this poo poo


gilty bastard

pedrovay2003
Mar 17, 2013

Nothing says quality like a black eye and a moustache.
Fun Shoe

This one photo has so many of the worst things in it.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1778896781713047769


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1778899023170027578

Hazo
Dec 30, 2004

SCIENCE



Mr. Nice! posted:

The LA supreme court case said that the legislature cannot extend statutes of limitations retroactively. That is, people have a year to sue a priest for loving them. After a year, the statute of limitations is up and they cannot sue anymore. Lousiana calls the situation an accrued prescription. Since an accrued prescription is a property right, the legislature cannot retroactively change it.

This is dumb as gently caress, but that’s the reasoning. Prospectively people should have a larger window to sue priests, but the ones who ducked a suit long enough in the past are now scott free in LA.

Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

But haven’t dozens of states like New York retroactively and legally extended statute of limitations for sex abuse victims, i.e., how trump was able to be liable for rape?

Are these guys just saying “yeah but here in Louisiana we think priests should have a a safe haven for child rape”?

Tai
Mar 8, 2006
Unborn kids have more rights than born kids these days. Banning abortions to make sure I do some kiddy fiddling and shoot up a school.

Shishkahuben
Mar 5, 2009





Hazo posted:

Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

But haven’t dozens of states like New York retroactively and legally extended statute of limitations for sex abuse victims, i.e., how trump was able to be liable for rape?

Are these guys just saying “yeah but here in Louisiana we think priests should have a a safe haven for child rape”?

Sounds like a perfect time for the LA legislature to pass a series of sweeping reforms that would join those states and bankrupt the church.

Nodelphi
Jan 30, 2004

We are all quite capable of believing in anything as long as it's improbable.

Ham Wrangler

kazil posted:

look at this poo poo


https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1778827681087271176

Accipiter
Jan 24, 2004

SINATRA.

Hazo posted:

But haven’t dozens of states like New York retroactively and legally extended statute of limitations for sex abuse victims, i.e., how trump was able to be liable for rape?

Louisiana did that too. This ruling overturned that extension as "unconstitutional" because of twisted legal knots claiming it violates due process.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

After a Speaker vote, you may be entitled to a valuable coupon or voucher!



Shishkahuben posted:

Sounds like a perfect time for the LA legislature to pass a series of sweeping reforms that would join those states and bankrupt the church.
Sorry, it’s an R majority— so we got to blame this one on Brandon

Mr. Nice!
Oct 13, 2005

bone shaking.
soul baking.

Hazo posted:

Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

But haven’t dozens of states like New York retroactively and legally extended statute of limitations for sex abuse victims, i.e., how trump was able to be liable for rape?

Are these guys just saying “yeah but here in Louisiana we think priests should have a a safe haven for child rape”?

You are correct that different states have basically done this, and it doesn’t run afoul of their state constitutions.

Louisiana is just interpreting their laws the way they want.

Anderson Koopa
Jun 9, 2006


Serious_Cyclone posted:

I still cannot wrap my brain around how anyone could invest themselves into an organization that works so incredibly hard to aid and protect child molesters. I have a SIL who is a classic geriatric Millennial liberal who goes on and on about I/P to anybody who will listen or just posts it into the Facebook void for nobody in particular, but she is a practicing Catholic and I just can't.

My Brother is on track to becoming a Priest. I asked him what his opinion of The Spanish Inquisition was, and he defended it. I didn't find his defense to be all that strong. Strangely the arguments are available online.

https://www.catholic.com/tract/the-inquisition -> A biased Catholic source defending the Inquisition.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/jun/16/artsandhumanities.internationaleducationnews-> This is a more neutral source that reports that "only" 30,00 people died on the low end, the torture lasted 15 minutes tops, and several tribunals executed people that were added to the Catholic church's body count.

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

Hazo posted:

Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

But haven’t dozens of states like New York retroactively and legally extended statute of limitations for sex abuse victims, i.e., how trump was able to be liable for rape?

Are these guys just saying “yeah but here in Louisiana we think priests should have a a safe haven for child rape”?

Trump raping Carroll actually ran into statute of limitations issues, which is why he was found liable in a civil trial instead of a criminal one

Fishmasher
Apr 22, 2002
the funny thing about some extremist cult members is that trump would've been hanged or imprisoned by them when he was a new york city liberal for 50 years. they never would've allowed their cult leader to become who he did.

he's been anti-gun, atheist, an adulterer, had a role in abortions, used drugs, hung out with epstein, and pro-vaccine at various stages, which is hilarious when you add it all up. he's been so many of the things they claim to hate every day, probably a lot longer than he's been the guy they worship.

Buce
Dec 23, 2005

i've never seen a less elitist, more everyman setting in my life. biden on the other hand, have you seen the palatial estate from which he lords over us????????

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

DandyLion posted:

So just a straight up endorsement of religious sexual abuse? A bold move for LA Supreme Court.

in times of uncertainty stick with what you know

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

North Dakota representative

jokes
Dec 20, 2012

Uh... Kupo?

Buce posted:

i've never seen a less elitist, more everyman setting in my life. biden on the other hand, have you seen the palatial estate from which he lords over us????????

biden's carpets all over the hardwood floor to keep his senior dogs from slipping was a really humanizing bit. makes his place look like poo poo, of course, but that's not why he did that

kazil
Jul 24, 2005

Derpmph trial star reporter!

https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1778900420070445081

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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Hazo posted:

Can someone better at legalese distill this? I’m interested to know how 4 pedophile judges with their names and everything wrote an opinion justifying “child rape is okay as long as you’re a priest.”

The thing that made this a viable-ish opinion (albeit a 4-3 one) is that it was specifically about *retroactively* removing the time limit on how late after the offense you can sue an abuser in civil court. The fact that there were three votes against does rather suggest that this isn't cut and dry, and indeed that article covers that the retroactively bit just raises the bar, it doesn't make the law facially unconstitutional.

tldr ruling bad and incorrect but the reasoning isn't completely deranged l

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