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Paracelsus
Apr 6, 2009

bless this post ~kya

Wolfsheim posted:

I can only assume he's hoarding gold bars in his scene

Wasn't Sinclair a generous and upstanding guy, which was why Dean hated him so much?

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Crazy Joe Wilson
Jul 4, 2007

Justifiably Mad!

Paracelsus posted:

Wasn't Sinclair a generous and upstanding guy, which was why Dean hated him so much?

Yeah, he was and he kept having horrible stuff happen to him but never gave up, which really galled Dean.

Dean is one of the worst humans in FNV, and that's saying a lot.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
That's why he could lose money running a casino.

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!
When Dean mentions how Sinclair's life kept getting dragged through the dirt he pauses first, as if there's something else he was going to say but decided not to. Makes me think he'd already been pursuing a one-sided vendetta against Sinclair for some time

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde
I’m getting a kick out of seeing cool actors pop up and I’m only on episode 2. Hey it’s Benjamin Linus!

Refuse to took at the cast list so as not to spoil things for myself

Edit: Finished ep 2 - Spooge’s wife from Breaking Bad!

Cat Hassler fucked around with this message at 06:06 on Apr 14, 2024

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?t=BiHL5A9GY5gU2hyXd4wUvw&s=19

Having power over canon and just casually dropping that the Fallout 4 protagonist was the guy who chuckled at war crimes in the Fallout 1 intro is the best thing Bethesda has ever done with the series

Fair Bear Maiden
Jun 17, 2013

Wolfsheim posted:

https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?t=BiHL5A9GY5gU2hyXd4wUvw&s=19

Having power over canon and just casually dropping that the Fallout 4 protagonist was the guy who chuckled at war crimes in the Fallout 1 intro is the best thing Bethesda has ever done with the series

He backtracked it almost immediately when he realized Nate would have been laughing in that scene and started going "no, no, it's just my headcanon guys, sorry, sorry, please ignore that, it was just a fun tweet", which is extremely funny.

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
You know, Fallout Canada has potential. The occupation means it would be pretty different.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

its really amazing cause its the kind of useless Lore brain that adds literally nothing but a lot of aaa games writers feel is really important

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001
Hey, how did he know how I played through as nate! Hell yeah that jerk would of laughed at war crimes, the horrible monster he was.

If it hadn't cut so quick it 100% would of shown him looting the corpse.

Szarrukin
Sep 29, 2021
Probation
Can't post for 16 hours!

Wolfsheim posted:

https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?t=BiHL5A9GY5gU2hyXd4wUvw&s=19

Having power over canon and just casually dropping that the Fallout 4 protagonist was the guy who chuckled at war crimes in the Fallout 1 intro is the best thing Bethesda has ever done with the series

that sounds like JK Rowling making up things on the fly creating lore for read another book.

sad question
May 30, 2020

Fair Bear Maiden posted:

He backtracked it almost immediately when he realized Nate would have been laughing in that scene and started going "no, no, it's just my headcanon guys, sorry, sorry, please ignore that, it was just a fun tweet", which is extremely funny.

Too late, it's already canon

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011

I keep feeling bad for Emil, not sure I should.

Could someone just wrap him in a blanket and put him in front of a cup of hot chocolate and a word processor?

grobbo
May 29, 2014

Wolfsheim posted:

Sinclair, a minor figure from a DLC few played and fewer liked

I understand the co-lead writer binged through the entire game series as research, so the fact that he apparently came away from all that with a memory of and affection for Dead Money specifically is - let's be very clear - a triumph of the human spirit and a lone voice of sanity in a mad world

Eraflure
Oct 12, 2012


Dead Money invented Fallout if you really think about it

Janissary Hop
Sep 2, 2012

Wolfsheim posted:

https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?t=BiHL5A9GY5gU2hyXd4wUvw&s=19

Having power over canon and just casually dropping that the Fallout 4 protagonist was the guy who chuckled at war crimes in the Fallout 1 intro is the best thing Bethesda has ever done with the series

I can’t believe the writer of fallout 3, fallout 4, and starfield is a cretin

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Szarrukin posted:

that sounds like JK Rowling making up things on the fly creating lore for read another book.

Anthony Goldstein, Master's Army, Jewish super mutant.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

i can't believe a fallout us soldier committed war crimes during the invasions of canada and china

i can't believe a us soldier committed war crimes

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Splorange posted:

Could someone just wrap him in a blanket and put him in front of a cup of hot chocolate and a word processor?

Please, no. If you did that he might write something.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
Give him one of these

Splorange
Feb 23, 2011

Arc Hammer posted:

Please, no. If you did that he might write something.

As long as it's Starfield, no harm done. :v:

2house2fly
Nov 14, 2012

You did a super job wrapping things up! And I'm not just saying that because I have to!

Wolfsheim posted:

https://twitter.com/Dezinuh/status/1779178683841790068?t=BiHL5A9GY5gU2hyXd4wUvw&s=19

Having power over canon and just casually dropping that the Fallout 4 protagonist was the guy who chuckled at war crimes in the Fallout 1 intro is the best thing Bethesda has ever done with the series

I wonder how much of this stuff can be traced back to George Lucas deciding it would be fun if Anakin built C3PO

MonsieurChoc
Oct 12, 2013

Every species can smell its own extinction.
I like this dumb lore drop, America was a fascist monster in Fallout (and in real life! dohohoh) so having the main character who was a soldier be complicit in warcrimes is perfectky logical. Either he realized the error of his ways as he grew older or he stayed a monster, that's on how you play him.

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

i mean having him having done bad things is fine but tying it into that one specific moment is very wikibrained

dr_rat
Jun 4, 2001

Endorph posted:

i mean having him having done bad things is fine but tying it into that one specific moment is very wikibrained

Yep, feels star wars cantina. It was some random news clip, there's no need to know who those two random soldiers were. You don't need to tie back everything to everything else.

steinrokkan
Apr 2, 2011



Soiled Meat
You know all the pre-war skeletons across the Commonwealth in weird places and positions? Your character killed them all, he was in the middle of a serial killer spree when the bombs fell. In fact there was a detective who was about to catch him. And that detective became Nick Valentine

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

steinrokkan posted:

You know all the pre-war skeletons across the Commonwealth in weird places and positions? Your character killed them all, he was in the middle of a serial killer spree when the bombs fell. In fact there was a detective who was about to catch him. And that detective became Nick Valentine

I mean there is that one sewer filled with posed skeletons from a serial killer who did exactly that to toy with Nick. And he had the sexy voice of Jed Masterson from the Happy Trails Caravan Company on his holotape recordings.

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Arc Hammer posted:

I mean there is that one sewer filled with posed skeletons from a serial killer who did exactly that to toy with Nick. And he had the sexy voice of Jed Masterson from the Happy Trails Caravan Company on his holotape recordings.

You know I never finished Nick Valentine's quest (or....most Fallout 4 questlines). Maybe I should give it another shot because that sounds like good times.

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Wolfsheim posted:

You know I never finished Nick Valentine's quest (or....most Fallout 4 questlines). Maybe I should give it another shot because that sounds like good times.

That one actually isn't Nick's personal quest. It's actually an unmarked quest you can stumble across near Diamond City but it's pretty clear from the audio tapes that the serial killer left his lair set up for Nick back before the war.

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.

Janissary Hop posted:

I can’t believe the writer of fallout 3, fallout 4, and starfield is a cretin

lmao

Feels Villeneuve
Oct 7, 2007

Setter is Better.
from the award winning writer of fallout 3

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

Feels Villeneuve posted:

from the award winning writer of fallout 3

An indictment of video game storytelling standards if there ever was one.

eating only apples
Dec 12, 2009

Shall we dance?

Wolfsheim posted:

You know I never finished Nick Valentine's quest (or....most Fallout 4 questlines). Maybe I should give it another shot because that sounds like good times.

Don't bother, the end of his quest is one of the stupidest most unsatisfying things in the series

Perfect Potato
Mar 4, 2009

eating only apples posted:

Don't bother, the end of his quest is one of the stupidest most unsatisfying things in the series

Lesser writers would've made the guy already dead or a gibbering shell of his former self, following their sham "logic" that they worship. Not Bethesda. They made him not change at all in 200+ years of mutating solitude and had Nick be completely right in following his insane and pointless revenge quest tangent

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."
I have finished Amazon Prime Presents: Fallout and while I had a rollicking good time the last shot being the overseer headed towards New Vegas makes me concerned not just because of how easy it would be for Bethesda to gently caress up everything interesting about that premise but also how bad the dropoff was between Westworld S1 and S2 so it has those two things going strongly against it

And yeah with Sinclair having him literally be the Big MT rep doesn't gel with the story as presented in FNV but whatever they clearly just threw that one in for the loreheads

Also the NCR thing isn't just a throwaway scene its literally the crux of the finale lol at the internet getting basic things wrong yet again (the timeline is off though)

Acebuckeye13
Nov 2, 2010
Ultra Carp

Wolfsheim posted:

And yeah with Sinclair having him literally be the Big MT rep doesn't gel with the story as presented in FNV but whatever they clearly just threw that one in for the loreheads

I never understand why writers do that. The only people who recognize the reference are going to be the ones who are most upset they got it wrong!

Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I never understand why writers do that. The only people who recognize the reference are going to be the ones who are most upset they got it wrong!

Should've been James Urbaniak

Pwnstar
Dec 9, 2007

Who wants some waffles?

Acebuckeye13 posted:

I never understand why writers do that. The only people who recognize the reference are going to be the ones who are most upset they got it wrong!

Yeah this is something that is weird to me. You aren't retelling a story from the book/game but instead doing your own thing, ok sure that's fine. Oh wait, here's Jeff the Taco Guy who is now the Hot Dog Guy for some reason? The dark wizard Glorpulon is back but was actually an undercover good guy the whole time?

Skeezy
Jul 3, 2007

Wolfsheim posted:

Should've been James Urbaniak

Yea

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Nichael
Mar 30, 2011


Wolfsheim posted:

Should've been James Urbaniak

He needs to be in season two.

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