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##vote Domino's pizza
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:20 |
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# ? Jun 10, 2024 06:06 |
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to be clear the reason i am voting dominoes back is this: -his initial post voting me had terrible justifications for his susses and votes -in his responses to me he's used several framing methods that both misrepresent the facts and refuse to engage with what little basis he offered to justify his vote on me in the first place backpedaling to 'well i think you should scumhunt' is worthless.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:21 |
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sharkmafia posted:to be clear the reason i am voting dominoes back is this:
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:22 |
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i don't believe your case on me is genuine, i think you picked a person out of a hat as your sus and are now justifying it after the fact
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:23 |
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Shark: What do you think of YPM's alignment?
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:23 |
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Pussy Quipped posted:Sorry I have to correct myself for the pedants, zzyzx did ostensibly write one actual post about Dominoes. Doesn’t change my mind. Zzyx wrote like 4 to 5 original posts
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:23 |
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Dominoes posted:Shark: What do you think of YPM's alignment? My personal muse is a saint and besmirch his name is a cardinal sin
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:24 |
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But also in their AI generated posts their opinion was still stated in the form of what the ai response is agreeing with
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:25 |
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Dominoes posted:Shark: What do you think of YPM's alignment? i think ypm is putting in a very large amount of genuine effort this game and voting them out today would be absurd. I also happen to agree that wins is a decent vote
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:26 |
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they could be scum, but based on their past play i think they're more likely to be town. scum ypm when i saw it seemed far more snipey and tunnely
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:27 |
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Thank you.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:27 |
Tea Party Crasher posted:My personal muse is a saint and besmirch his name is a cardinal sin What if I say I think YPM sucks, but in a funny way, like a clown at a circus
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:37 |
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Can someone confirm who was in the mafia-minigame masonry for me? Want to check posts and the survey request.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:37 |
Tom Tucker posted:Can someone confirm who was in the mafia-minigame masonry for me? Want to check posts and the survey request. Jose Valasquez posted:Voodoo, AFQM, Cube, shark, FoS, and both Joses
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:39 |
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Tom Tucker posted:One clarification - from Shark but also from the people who were in the mafia-within-mafia game, did people who were "assigned" numbers get into the game, so it was completely up to sharkmafia who to bring in, and didn't need someone to post an actual number? this is correct, yes as i mentioned at some earlier point, the numbers were entirely arbitrary and who got into the subgames was entirely my choice. i did it because it was fun and because i wanted to have some basis for my choices
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:39 |
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Monathin posted:What if I say I think YPM sucks, but in a funny way, like a clown at a circus Comedy has gone too far.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:39 |
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incidentally tom by my assigned numbers you should have gotten in but i vetoed you. sorry
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:40 |
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(i gave you on a 9 on the basis that only someone who really hates d1 would attempt to force things that hard that early)
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:41 |
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Monathin posted:What if I say I think YPM sucks, but in a funny way, like a clown at a circus You know what they say about men in big honking clown shoes
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:41 |
Your Personal Muse posted:You know what they say about men in big honking clown shoes They have very poor quality of life and life expectancy?
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:42 |
##vote Dominoes
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:43 |
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I think it's kind of silly to have people voting for someone but actually have their votes go to someone else imo ##vote winswins32767
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:44 |
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##vote wins32767
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:45 |
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Monathin posted:##vote Dominoes
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:46 |
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Shark’s defense of me is pinging me, why would he say I put in effort. I’m not joking, I don’t understand how someone reading would come to that conclusion.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:47 |
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by the way, regarding the accussations spread by some regarding me clearing cube, I simply agree with his subsubgame strategy completely and see it as a town move. it's not impossible scum cube did that to get town cred, but it wouldn't be my first assumption at all
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:48 |
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Your Personal Muse posted:Shark’s defense of me is pinging me, why would he say I put in effort. I’m not joking, I don’t understand how someone reading would come to that conclusion. actually, full disclosure: i mixed you up with tea party crasher. i noticed just now three word names, man
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:48 |
thank you, I hope you understand how hard this is for me, personally Your Personal Muse posted:Shark’s defense of me is pinging me, why would he say I put in effort. I’m not joking, I don’t understand how someone reading would come to that conclusion. hrmm. go on
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:48 |
sharkmafia posted:actually, full disclosure: i mixed you up with tea party crasher. i noticed just now lol
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:48 |
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Dominoes posted:Shark: What do you think of YPM's alignment? so actually i think ypm is just a total nulltell. i have no loving idea. i thought you were sussing tpc
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:49 |
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Pussy Quipped posted:You dont have to exaggerate, I posted more than "literally nothing" in that game. He said basically all game
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:49 |
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he's been mostly whitenoise posting but as far as i can tell ypm never doesn't do that. its not really a tell imo, especially day 1
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:49 |
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sharkmafia posted:so actually i think ypm is just a total nulltell. i have no loving idea. i thought you were sussing tpc
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:51 |
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Hal Incandenza posted:I know, I just feel like it’s been there for 10 years and I’d feel bad removing it This post is Hal giving cart blanche approval to being voted out accidentally via the Wins nickname
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 21:51 |
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##vote pq he's still hiding behind his joke zzyzx vote
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 22:08 |
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Shahrazad (Sub and subsubgames) detail: Shark picked me, and I'm town, so Shark has to have picked at least one town. It seems like Shark legit had some choice, and I was picked in both the 7 and 5 player games. With 27 players, I think it's reasonable to assume like 6 scum, in which case Shark, if scum, I guess could've picked (5 scumbuds + Cube), which would be pretty weird I think. I suppose they could've picked like, 3 scumbuds + 3 town, which...sure, maybe. If we see 3 scum flip from the subgame player list, then I'll consider Shark scum. For now, I am thinking Shark is town. Shark said they don't know what the boons are. Perhaps more importantly, the mod also said they didn't know what the boons were going to be (this was one of the first questions I asked, because I wanted to know - if subgamescum won, would the boon be 'better' to make up for the smaller player count). I fell on the sword in the subsubgame to ensure 4 people got boons. If I were scum, then it depends on how many scumbuds were in the group of 4 to see if it would make sense for me to instaclaim or not. My turnaround time on this was pretty quick, I thought through and acted before most people posted at all in the masonries. I also suggested that we should use the 7 player game as an unconfirmed masonry and maybe a bloc-like thing (though I wasn't sure about that) instead of trying to play or shove boons at people. Shark seemed disappointed that we weren't going to actually play another mafia game (funny joke though, taking people who don't like D1 and expecting them to play more D1's). No one else seemed to want to go along with the masonry idea. In the 7 player game, I am town. JoseV has claimed to be scum. The other 5 players also say they're town. There was a lot of debate whether we should have scum claim instantly again to ensure 5 people got boons (vs 2). JoseV was not around for that main discussion (and once they were around, they claimed). The working hypothesis for the group is that the holdout scum in the subsubgame is more likely than not to be scum in this main game. There was discussion about no-eliminating today, but it seems likely that we'll wind up voting out claimed scum JoseV and then be forced to play mafia. Another consideration is "boons aren't coming until D2, so maybe we should wait and see what those are" but mod is making poo poo up as they go so that's not a HUGE consideration. FoS first divulged the existence of the subsubgame in the main subgame. Voodoo posting about the existence of the sub and subsubgames seems townie. I don't know that they should've posted everyone's names though. They also volunteered to be the first elim in the subgame with some hard-to-see-a-good-way-to-game-even-if-they're-lying chainvoting idea. --- There may be (perhaps it's likely to be) more than one scum in the group of 6 other subgame players, but I would be hard-pressed to vote any of them for the next day or two until we have "reasonable results" on who the holdout scum in the subgame is.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 22:09 |
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So we have: Voodoo - posted "4" AFQM - posted "100000" Cube - posted "Probably like a 7, but a 10 on the D1's where I get voted out or shot." shark - presumably wouldn't have to respond but did, posted "personally i'd be at about a 7 i'd say" FoS - did not directly cite a number, but did post a numeral 1 in response "i hate day 1 so much that I've run multiple games experimenting with how to make it suck less lol " JoseV - posted "6.9" JoseF - posted "69420" So in every event each person who got in, in direct response to the question, posted a response which included a number. This was either an actual number (in all but FoS's case) and in FoS's case, the response did have a number in it. But none of the people who were "assigned" numbers got in. shark to Dominoes: "i am impressed that you made two posts without actually giving a number i'm assigning you an 8" shark to Tom Tucker: "your number has already been assigned, citizen. You Have No Choice" To be fair several people responded with numerals but were not included: yuming, hambeet, Tokes, zzyzx, TPC, etc. I find it suspicious that shark kept insisting on people responding in numerical form, and in the end, only people who responded with a numeral in their response were included, the people "assigned" numbers weren't. This makes me suspect shark is in fact lying about the criteria to get in, and did not "veto" me, required a numeral as part of the role, and used the survey to give scum cover to get into the minigame to get bonuses. If it's a town role then why all the insistence on replying in numerical value? And if there is no need to actually reply with a numeral, then it's an awful coincidence that everyone who got into the minigame did so. Not sure about this. Thoughts? Seems awfully convenient.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 22:17 |
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lih posted:##vote pq Also I like this point - sitting on a joke vote is the kind of thing scum would do day 1 if one of the vote leaders is scum and they don't want to be seen either pushing town hard or voting for their scumbuddy too early.
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 22:18 |
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Tom Tucker posted:So we have: shark told me that I was picked (as were iirc AFQM and Cube?) because we said we hated day 1.
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Oh they also told me that the numbers meant nothing mechanical
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# ? Apr 14, 2024 22:21 |