Antigravitas posted:

Whenever my partner has an issue, I ask them for the Jira ticket number.

tokin opposition posted:

I was raised by the Internet and get laid exactly as often as I'd like

tokin opposition posted:

That's why I'm a relationship Marxist

Elephant Ambush posted:

Incels are fascinating to me. I remember what it was like to be a lonely young guy and it sucked really hard but I didn't spend all my time online whining about how much women suck. I went to the gym and started working on people skills and now I've been happily married to the girl of my dreams for over 20 years

Antigravitas posted:

Whenever my partner has an issue, I ask them for the Jira ticket number.

The Wicked ZOGA posted:

I assume you're asexual

Skios posted:

The main problem with incels is that the communities have a massive crab bucket mentality. Anyone in an online incel community who will ask for any kind of self-improvement advice, or talk about things like going to the gym or seeing a professional about their social issues will immediately get shouted down and told that any kind of self-improvement is a lie, and the only way for incels to get laid is when they inevitably take over and build some sort of regime around enforced monogamy where promiscuous Stacies will be publicly punished for their transgressions and the state will assign each woman to an appropriate man.

And god forbid someone who has spent some time in an incel community finds a girl who isn't immediately repulsed by him. Posts along the lines of "Hey guys, I have a new coworker, and she's pretty cute. We're talking a lot about our favourite movies, and I was thinking about taking her on a date." will immediately be met with "No, you fool? Can't you see she's just another Stacy whore? She will suck you dry for your beta bux before running off to get railed by Chad and Tyrone!"

You have to remember that there's a direct line from the pick-up artist community of the late 2000s/early 2010s and the current incel community. These were young men who were dealing with a lot of anxieties about women and how to talk to them - and then along come the internet grifters that offer them an easy way out. Just pay me a few hundred bucks, and I will give you a list of magical techniques that will make any woman drop her panties for you.

And obviously that poo poo doesn't work. It never does. And rather than go for any kind of self-reflection - maybe women aren't just simple programs where if you put in a certain amount of compliments and attention, eventually sex will fall out - they decided that there must be something wrong with the women they tried this pick-up bullshit on. Eventually even the most stubborn guy will realise that this isn't working, but there's no self-reflection, especially since a lot of these former pick-up artist grifters (looking at you, Roosh) pivoted to a more MGOW/red pill/black pill grifting rhetoric.

It's something that Andrew Tate heavily capitalised on. His message was always that women are irrelevant, other than as a means to make enough money to free yourself from degenerate western society and the control of 'The Matrix'. And once you're rich and wealthy and 'alpha' enough, the problem will take care of itself. It means that all the Hustler University losers, when a woman responds to their advances with 'Ew!', will just tell themselves "Oh, she's just stuck in The Matrix. I'm too much of an alpha for her. I didn't need her anyway."

Elephant Ambush posted:

Incels are fascinating to me. I remember what it was like to be a lonely young guy and it sucked really hard but I didn't spend all my time online whining about how much women suck. I went to the gym and started working on people skills and now I've been happily married to the girl of my dreams for over 20 years

Neito posted:

This, yes, but also a huge, terrifying amount of untreated body dysmorphia and mental illness. I remember the couple weeks (months?) we had a mock thread for Inceltown in GBS; so much of the content out of that was language around the specific reasons they're incels (chincel for people who have bad chins, shincel, cheekcel, the list goes on) and body-horror-level photoshops of what they think the "ideal body" would look like.

Not saying they should be pitied because of their mental illness ("you're not responsable for your illness but you are responsable for your actions" and all), it's just an interesting peek into how deep and disturbing this rabbit hole goes.

Mr.Radar posted:

Mr.Radar posted:

Skios posted:

You have to remember that there's a direct line from the pick-up artist community of the late 2000s/early 2010s and the current incel community. These were young men who were dealing with a lot of anxieties about women and how to talk to them - and then along come the internet grifters that offer them an easy way out. Just pay me a few hundred bucks, and I will give you a list of magical techniques that will make any woman drop her panties for you.

And obviously that poo poo doesn't work. It never does. And rather than go for any kind of self-reflection - maybe women aren't just simple programs where if you put in a certain amount of compliments and attention, eventually sex will fall out - they decided that there must be something wrong with the women they tried this pick-up bullshit on. Eventually even the most stubborn guy will realise that this isn't working, but there's no self-reflection, especially since a lot of these former pick-up artist grifters (looking at you, Roosh) pivoted to a more MGOW/red pill/black pill grifting rhetoric.

Kit Walker posted:

A lot of PUA poo poo does work, and they wouldn’t have been so successful if they weren’t able to back it up.

Vib Rib posted:

Are you joking? Bullshit actually working has never, ever been a requirement for these behavioral pitches to become popular.

Neito posted:

I refer to each of my polyamorous girlfriends by their git branch's last commit hash. Girlfriend 4cd045f4a3d72b53afa2daa82d31a56000e0a805 is doing exceptionally well today.

dialhforhero posted:

Recognizing the problem is pretty important.

It may also be important to note that curiously it seems that most incels are all cis white middle/upper middle class.

What I am saying is: the suburbs are to blame.

History Comes Inside! posted:

PUA poo poo works on the same principle that if you went up to 1000 different people and told them you’d like to bury them under your patio you’d probably still get a couple of phone numbers.

Neito posted:

This, yes, but also a huge, terrifying amount of untreated body dysmorphia and mental illness. I remember the couple weeks (months?) we had a mock thread for Inceltown in GBS; so much of the content out of that was language around the specific reasons they're incels (chincel for people who have bad chins, shincel, cheekcel, the list goes on) and body-horror-level photoshops of what they think the "ideal body" would look like.

Not saying they should be pitied because of their mental illness ("you're not responsable for your illness but you are responsable for your actions" and all), it's just an interesting peek into how deep and disturbing this rabbit hole goes.

History Comes Inside! posted:

PUA poo poo works on the same principle that if you went up to 1000 different people and told them you’d like to bury them under your patio you’d probably still get a couple of phone numbers.

Inceltown posted:

I'm honoured that GBS had a thread for me

Platystemon posted:

. Also, anyone who spells out “six” but uses numerals for ten is deranged.

Hispanic! At The Disco posted:

Auto-generated subtitles have a little difficulty with Boomhauer, I tell you what.

I point out to incels that if they look like Danny DeVito, they'll attract women like Rhea Perlman and not the supermodels they all seem to think they deserve. But if they groom themselves and dress with style, they might get dates with well-groomed, stylish women. I have a similar success rate to Boomhauer in that video clip.

Mr.Radar posted:

InediblePenguin posted:

this is basic usage from 20th century style guides. you spell out single digit numbers and use numerals for longer ones. ten is a two digit number. sorry

Platystemon posted:

Now read the bit about what to do when two numbers appear in the same clause.

Fister Roboto posted:

The thing that "works" about PUA poo poo is that it teaches you confidence, but that's kind of like saying that kidnapping people and dissecting them teaches you anatomy.

Neito posted:

I had always assumed you took your name as a gently caress you to that forum.

steinrokkan posted:

Does pua poo poo teach confidence, or does it actively worsen the social skills and expectations of the people who believe the grifters? Like tangentially, recently I watched a video on the liver king where he talked about how he does his thing to help men misled by unrealistic social standards... By being the ultimate representation of fake and unrealistic social standards of masculinity? PUA gurus or whatever they call themselves strike me as similar, they promise something that isn't achievable for most via the methods they sell, making the problems they claim to solve worse.