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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Most of the "open" areas in FF16 were still constrained by open world standards. The castle from the prologue was like a single stone wall and a courtyard and it still chugged horribly in Performance Mode. Looks like the real pandemic was a case of lazy devs!!

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Wolfsheim
Dec 23, 2003

"Ah," Ratz had said, at last, "the artiste."

veni veni veni posted:

Imo he is way better in Phantom Liberty than the base game. He feels much more natural in the role. I found him really enjoyable in the vanilla game but he's a little stiff. Not so in PL though

since I'm almost done with extremely 6/10 experience IMMORTALS OF AVEUM I was thinking of going back to C2077, and I even PL is on sale, but its only 15% off...debating just going for it anyway :negative:

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
read somewhere that 16 took the better part of a decade to develop and I hope that was a misunderstanding. spending all those years to come up with an asura’s wrath clone with half the creativity and charm

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

Final Fantasy 16 apparently was the first Final Fantasy in a long time to have an audience that was more in their 16-25 demographic than the over 30 demographic, so whatever flaws it had it did exactly what they wanted it to do which is bring in new players.

Paying2Lurk
Sep 15, 2023

I'd take a bullet
for a bud any day.
The youth are dumb.

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Feeling old yet?? Everybody who played FF15 when they were 12 are 45 years old now.

WaltherFeng
May 15, 2013

50 thousand people used to live here. Now, it's the Mushroom Kingdom.
I love FF16 for its faults. Arcade mode is very fun and has more balanced difficulty

FireWorksWell
Nov 27, 2014

Let's go do some hero shit!


Wolfsheim posted:

since I'm almost done with extremely 6/10 experience IMMORTALS OF AVEUM I was thinking of going back to C2077, and I even PL is on sale, but its only 15% off...debating just going for it anyway :negative:

I paid full price for the expansion and it was worth every dollar. I enjoyed 2077 a lot but PL is on another level in regards to plot and characters.

Vintersorg
Mar 3, 2004

President of
the Brendan Fraser
Fan Club



I haven't watched this yet but the title is right - limitations make for better games as devs have to think harder.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nUjoMdWH-JI

exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Modern devs agree with you, that's why every new game comes out limited to 25fps!

Heroic Yoshimitsu
Jan 15, 2008

man nurse posted:

Not only do I want a PS5 Pro, but I’ll buy one, as well

Lots of people saying this

Baggot
Sep 9, 2009

Hail to the King, baby.

April Game Catalog is now available for PS+ Extra and PS+ Premium/Deluxe subscribers.

PlayStation Plus Extra and Premium/Deluxe | Game Catalog

Animal Well* | DAY 1 RELEASE | PS5
Animal Well will launch May 9.

Tales of Kenzera: Zau* | DAY 1 RELEASE | PS5
Tales of Kenzera: ZAU will launch April 23.

Dave the Diver | DAY 1 PS RELEASE | PS4, PS5
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Free Dredge DLC: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP8236-PPSA19115_00-0022182838930901

Oddballers | PS4
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Construction Simulator | PS4, PS5
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The Crew 2 | PS4
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Raji: An Ancient Epic | PS4, PS5
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PS5: https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP4989-PPSA21946_00-0159294138060851

Lego Ninjago Movie Videogame | PS4
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Nour: Play With Your Food | PS4, PS5
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Deliver Us Mars | PS4, PS5
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Lego Marvel's Avengers | PS4
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Miasma Chronicles | PS5
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Stray Blade | PS5
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PlayStation Plus Premium/Deluxe | Classics Catalog

Alone in the Dark: The New Nightmare (original PlayStation version) | PS4, PS5
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Star Wars: Rebel Assault II: The Hidden Empire (original PlayStation version) | PS4, PS5
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MediEvil (original PlayStation version) | PS4, PS5
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fridge corn
Apr 2, 2003

NO MERCY, ONLY PAIN :black101:
I keep forgetting phantom liberty exists

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I need to get back into 2077, it was decent enough but I think making the gear system basically entirely vestigial in 2.0 was a weird choice

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

All this stuff for fashion purposes and you can't even see your character. I like the game but I will still never forgive them for not adding a third person camera.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


I think it was a fine choice. Imo gear doesn't even matter all that much in 2077 because the gameplay isn't all that deep and challenging. But the old gear system made people who obsessively min/max stuff stuck with looking stupid all the time. The improved skill trees more than make up for it. All of that poo poo was just nonsense at launch.

ImpAtom
May 24, 2007

I feel like "mixmaxing so you look as stupid as possible" is honestly perfectly in line with Cyberpunk fashion trends.

cubicle gangster
Jun 26, 2005

magda, make the tea
Managing stats and the RPG systems in cyberpunk was one of the worst parts of the game imo. It got much better once you hit max level, locked in a set of skills and just switched out gun types because everything that drops is the rarest type and equally good.
It was fussy in a way that felt ambiguous and disconnected - I think because in the hectic experience of firefights it's pretty much impossible to keep track of what any of your stats are even doing.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


is it weird that my brain is fine with the concept of gear when it's medieval fantasy but once it goes into contemporary or sci fi it doesn't jive with me at all?

Like, "oh a +1 breastplate. They must have put some extra leather in there or maybe a wizard did something to it. Works for me!" But the second you tell me a baseball cap reduces bleed damage I'm like "how does a baseball cap do that?!"

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


They had already fixed the Fashion Souls problem though, there was a previous patch that added the ability to select cosmetic outfits.

I'm just saying, it feels kind weird to exit the prologue and already have the three guns you're going to use for the entire game.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal
It has a little needle that injects you with coagulation-boosting space drugs, obviously

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


cubicle gangster posted:

Managing stats and the RPG systems in cyberpunk was one of the worst parts of the game imo. It got much better once you hit max level, locked in a set of skills and just switched out gun types because everything that drops is the rarest type and equally good.
It was fussy in a way that felt ambiguous and disconnected - I think because in the hectic experience of firefights it's pretty much impossible to keep track of what any of your stats are even doing.

Oh yeah. I love Cyberpunk but to this day I will maintain it's a terrible RPG. It should have just functioned closer to an action open world game imo. That's why I think it was a good move to downplay that stuff in 2.0 and work on making the skill tree better since it's the only thing that really matters.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Also, I'm mainly talking about the weapons, not actual wearable equipment, which I agree was too much originally. Random stats on random drops got exhausting.

veni veni veni
Jun 5, 2005


Arist posted:

They had already fixed the Fashion Souls problem though, there was a previous patch that added the ability to select cosmetic outfits.

I'm just saying, it feels kind weird to exit the prologue and already have the three guns you're going to use for the entire game.

I guess it depends on what your looking for but there's basically no scenario in a shooter where I want guns to be good based on levels and stats. If I headshot a guy I want him to go down in one hit. If I'n landing body shots I don't want to watch a health bar slowly plink away because my gun isn't powerful enough. I think modifiers are much more interesting than loving with base damage to get a sense of progression. Picking up a gun in a game should be fun cause maybe it uses explosive ammo, or has a unique scope or alt fire or whatever. If it's just upping stats so it doesn't take obnoxiously long to kill enemies that's super boring to me. Also I hate when I like a gun but have to ditch it because it's not up to my level.

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

ZeeBoi posted:

So much pointless movie talk for pages upon pages and not a single mention of all the ps5 pro news that’s been trickling out (spoiler: it’s a dumb thing to buy)

Theres always pisspro talk, you just skipped it all to piss yer pants

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

exquisite tea posted:

IDK how FF16 managed to look worse than FF7R and also run like rear end at the same time despite coming out 3 years later on a next-gen console.

lol you high

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.

Paying2Lurk posted:

The youth are dumb.

Ff16 rules old man, your time is over

Vikar Jerome
Nov 26, 2013

I believe Emmanuelle is shit, though Emmanuelle 2, Emmanuelle '77 and Goodbye, Emmanuelle may be very good movies.
Lots of old man yelling at clouds posting going right now itt and its downright hilarious (sad)

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

~🚚special delivery~📦

ZeeBoi posted:

So much pointless movie talk for pages upon pages and not a single mention of all the ps5 pro news that’s been trickling out (spoiler: it’s a dumb thing to buy)

I’m a VR dork, sorry, I’m buyin’ it.

big nipples big life
May 12, 2014

They could convince me to buy a pro by making the fan in the PS5 really loud, early on when I got my PS5 I thought it was worth every penny just to play my PS4 games without that loving fan.

Oxxidation
Jul 22, 2007
the coil whine is aggravating but at least it’s not the fan, yes. series x on the other hand is whisper quiet

I said come in!
Jun 22, 2004

big nipples big life posted:

I guess it depends on your definition of runs badly. I've never been bothered by the performance of a game on it.

Immortals of Aveum, and Starfield are two of the most recent games I played on console where the performance was unplayable. And then a bunch of Switch games which goes without saying.

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

I bought Phantom Liberty a few weeks ago with the full intent of starting another Cyberpunk play through, but I've been so caught up in Balatro and Solium Infernum and starting New Vegas for the first time that the idea of putting down my Steam Deck and touching the PS5 is completely out the window.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


I'm like fifty hours and change into Unicorn Overlord and it's been really good but I'm about ready for it to end. Getting a little concerned by the number of hidden trophies still left, though.

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


New Vegas rules

Steve Yun
Aug 7, 2003
I'm a parasitic landlord that needs to get a job instead of stealing worker's money. Make sure to remind me when I post.
Soiled Meat
Consoles should be shaped like a chimney for maximum airflow and needing less noisy fans. Then they should put a roof on top to prevent spills from damaging it. Then make the roof flat so you can stack your games or a drink on there

CharlieFoxtrot
Mar 27, 2007

organize digital employees



ImpAtom posted:

Final Fantasy 16 apparently was the first Final Fantasy in a long time to have an audience that was more in their 16-25 demographic than the over 30 demographic, so whatever flaws it had it did exactly what they wanted it to do which is bring in new players.

This is wild to learn lmao? When I played it, I was like "Are the kids really going to be into a game that starts with a kid seeing his family being brutally disemboweled and also there are many historical-political lectures"

Edit: oh 16-25, that's older than I was thinking lol. I guess I was just remembering that I played FF4 and 6 when I was like 9 or 10 years old, i think ff16 would have been too much for me

Arist
Feb 13, 2012

who, me?


Steve Yun posted:

Consoles should be shaped like a chimney for maximum airflow and needing less noisy fans. Then they should put a roof on top to prevent spills from damaging it. Then make the roof flat so you can stack your games or a drink on there

Going to send a small Victorian child into my PS5 to make it run better

Fix
Jul 26, 2005

NEWT THE MOON

Buh. I forgot about Helldiver Thursdays. I guess I do still use the thing.

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exquisite tea
Apr 21, 2007

Carly shook her glass, willing the ice to melt. "You still haven't told me what the mission is."

She leaned forward. "We are going to assassinate the bad men of Hollywood."


Arist posted:

Going to send a small Victorian child into my PS5 to make it run better

Assassin's Creed Syndicate had a map objective that was like "3/5 Child Laborers Rescued" and I thought that was one of the funniest things to ever read in a video game.

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