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Taear posted:No I know I'm not making any comment on the quality of the shows just kinda pushing back against the idea that SNW is wildly successful. Yes. One metric was also "are 3rd parties willing to pay whatever you ask for rights to this show" but that died when new Star Trek went Parasite+-exclusive. And it never worked with Prime or Netflix shows as an indicator because they never seem to sell anything from their catalogue.
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SNW and Picard kept ranking on the Nielsen streaming top ten during their last seasons. That's what's always given me the impression that SNW is the Star Trek flagship, and have a sense that its probably the most safe of anything, even if they kill it all. But who knows.
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John Wick of Dogs posted:They go on field trips! Tilly has the same hair as Ms Frizzle, don’t forget!
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Der Kyhe posted:We will end up with the Starfleet academy show in the 32nd century, for either which no-one seems to particularly care for, as the flagship. Star Trek: Toronto
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DavidCameronsPig posted:Star Trek: Toronto Go for the SG-1 approach where some of the trees in the patch of forest they always used had to register for the SAG membership.
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Der Kyhe posted:Yes. One metric was also "are 3rd parties willing to pay whatever you ask for rights to this show" but that died when new Star Trek went Parasite+-exclusive. Now the metric is "does it seem like this can singlehandedly force mass quantities of people to subscribe to Paramount+" and who cares if that's an impossible ask.
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Who wouldn't want to subscribe to a service where they keep cancelling shows and/or removing them entirely from their service?
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Boxturret posted:Who wouldn't want to subscribe to a service where they keep cancelling shows and/or removing them entirely from their service? Admittedly this all the streamers post-2019 or so.
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Clouseau posted:SNW and Picard kept ranking on the Nielsen streaming top ten during their last seasons. Wasn’t that because Nielsen didn’t start tracking streaming services before Picard Season 3?
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The story says that they started tracking P+ just that year, so yeah, it wouldn't count Disco etc.
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Khanstant posted:I'd be excited if they just bowled over TOS and started remaking it in line with SNW. Very few new people are ever going to watch TOS. The scripts are already written, it has a ton of the IP executives crave, and for most folks Captain Kirk is just a funny way of talking. Many of the scripts are real weird though. There are a bunch of studio backlot alternate earths that are never explained, because scifi didn't explain poo poo in the 60s. Sometimes it's cultural contamination like the nazi planet and the gangster planet, but other times humans just apparently evolved on another planet that happens to have the same continents as Earth. In one case in exactly the same way right up until the 20th century where they had americans and communists nuke themselves back to the stone age. The americans had an identical constitution to our americans! Not explaining that poo poo would make modern audience confused and unhappy. Explaining it would make long-time fans mad as hell (because the explanation would be stupid). And there are so many. They could have a season or multi-season arc investigating all these dang alternate Earths filled with alternate humans trying to figure out who made them and why. Are they popped in from alternate dimensions? Was a godlike being playing with the clone tool back in the day? Was it the dang progenitors somehow? Facebook Aunt fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Apr 15, 2024 |
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Facebook Aunt posted:Many of the scripts are real weird though. If there were a backdoor TOS remake via SNW, I'm sure they'd just skim the best 10 episodes off the top of the heap and adapt those instead of trying to figure out how to make The Omega Glory or Spectre of the Gun or Turnabout Intruder work in 202X I think SNW could absolutely nail an adaptation of Spock's Brain, though
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Der Kyhe posted:We will end up with the Starfleet academy show in the 32nd century, for either which no-one seems to particularly care for, as the flagship. Every moral conflict of the week is solved for they are now a de-materialized hologram
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The writers of Disco seriously need to be banned from being allowed to use the word 'connection'
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Facebook Aunt posted:Many of the scripts are real weird though. I think this would be a funny and good show as a separate IP fwiw get a good writing team of "what if" nerds to do it
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Facebook Aunt posted:There are a bunch of studio backlot alternate earths that are never explained, because scifi didn't explain poo poo in the 60s.  Hodgkin's Law of Parallel Planetary Development. (what do you mean that doesn't actually explain anything) MikeJF fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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corona familiar posted:I think this would be a funny and good show as a separate IP fwiw Another holodeck film episode for Lower Decks where the computer spits out the aliens having their own exact copy of the US Constitution and Boimler flips a table.
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I'm not sure i'm bothering with Discovery this season, is the captain still being a one person army?
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Stegosnaurlax posted:I'm not sure i'm bothering with Discovery this season, is the captain still being a one person army? Combat/action scenes by protagonists participating:
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The Chairman posted:Combat/action scenes by protagonists participating: Close enough, i'll skip it. Pike rules, i'll wait for his adventures.
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Definitely still some Prestige Plot Armor going on. I laughed when Moll and L'akk got disarmed by those guards then just punched them to death after anyway.
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Clouseau posted:SNW and Picard kept ranking on the Nielsen streaming top ten during their last seasons. That's what's always given me the impression that SNW is the Star Trek flagship, and have a sense that its probably the most safe of anything, even if they kill it all. But who knows. That's only in the US though Also honestly it's STILL very hard to tell what actual volume of viewers that equates to. loving mental that the new futurama surpasses it though
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There's a Lincoln Lawyer TV series?  Is... is Matthew McConaughey in it?
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Jerusalem posted:There's a Lincoln Lawyer TV series? What does your heart tell you?
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The_Doctor posted:What does your heart tell you? Yes, but all his scenes are filmed entirely by Bowfingering him in?
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The_Doctor posted:What does your heart tell you? To have faith.
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Has Sybok ever been mentioned in the shows? I know most are happy to forget he existed but if used right, there is potential there.
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The Last Call posted:Has Sybok ever been mentioned in the shows? He was referenced and kinda had a 5 second appearance in SNW, at the end of The Serene Squall
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The Last Call posted:Has Sybok ever been mentioned in the shows? Yes, in SNW. There's even a shot of him from behind.
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A themme fatale named Captain Angel takes over the Enterprise to attempt to use Spock as leverage to have his betrothed set free their romantic partner, the currently incarcerated Sybok, in exchange for Spock and the enterprise crews lives.
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I hope we get some Sybok in the next couple seasons, would also be a cool way to have Jolene Blalock back as T'Pol and would fit her character's past as a Vulcan fugitive hunting expert.
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I’ve always thought Sybok was the best Trek movie adversary, and even one of the best in movies because of his goal, achievement of that goal, and the way he had followers. It was nice to see the Jesus-type character portrayed as a villain in that way. Could the movie have been better? Of course. I love cheese and camp and that kind of thing, anyways, as well. I just hope they don’t take away his jovial nature when they do him in SNW, but I am excited for possibilities. Sybok is the coolest Vulcan.
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I don't remember the movie well, but wouldn't it be weird for people like Ohura to not already know about Spock's brother if they do more than a vague reference in SNW?
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Facebook Aunt posted:I don't remember the movie well, but wouldn't it be weird for people like Ohura to not already know about Spock's brother if they do more than a vague reference in SNW? They've already explicitly shown with the Khan stuff that they aren't making every minute detail consistent with older material, so if anything it would just be that more people know about Sybok in this version.
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Super Deuce posted:I’ve always thought Sybok was the best Trek movie adversary, and even one of the best in movies because of his goal, achievement of that goal, and the way he had followers. It was nice to see the Jesus-type character portrayed as a villain in that way. Could the movie have been better? Of course. I love cheese and camp and that kind of thing, anyways, as well. Sybok was an excellent example of an adversary that isn't a) a cartoon villain, b) not a galaxy-ending threat, but c) also high-stakes for the antagonists themselves. Really, that was the magic of all of the original Trek movies; they were local. At most, a specific world was threatened, or a more nebulous concept like 'galactic peace' was threatened. Facebook Aunt posted:I don't remember the movie well, but wouldn't it be weird for people like Ohura to not already know about Spock's brother if they do more than a vague reference in SNW? Nah. They can have Sybok, they can even have Spock interact with Sybok, then just keep it to himself. "Spock, what happened down there?" "A...personal matter, Captain. One I prefer not to speak of. I found it quite....troubling." "Very well, Spock. Look, if you ever do want to talk about it......" "Thank you, Captain. I shall bear that in mind. With your permission?" "Return to your station, Mr. Spock." Then, thirty or forty years later, Kirk, who wasn't even on the Enterprise at the time, finds out about Sybok, it's news to him, and what's Uhura going to do, just chime in 'Oh, hey, I remember that guy?' The plot point is that *Kirk* didn't know about him, and that's really the important part. TheCenturion fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Apr 16, 2024 |
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I love my partner. We've been texting back and forth about Star Trek all day and are currently trying to figure out how the Federation kept itself from creating a Grand Army of the Republic after the Borg and Dominion wars in short succession. The post-Dominion War version of the Federation we see in Picard has some ominously "Old Republic, just prior to the dissolution of the Senate and the declaration of Empire" vibes, and lord knows the hawks would have the upper hand in that political environment.
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You would think that the post-Dominion War era would be more peaceful, since everyone had to spend a couple of years throwing every ship they had at the nearly endless Dominion war machine.
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FlamingLiberal posted:You would think that the post-Dominion War era would be more peaceful, since everyone had to spend a couple of years throwing every ship they had at the nearly endless Dominion war machine. "We lost millions of people in our war with the Dominion! You want us to ramp down our military production? And put the entire Federation at risk while our defensive capabilities are at their weakest? We need to double-down on shipbuilding and military training if we're to defend our worlds from those who might take advantage of our current vulnerabilities! Doing this will prevent another war!" etc etc now I want the post-war Star Trek political intrigue show. make it happen Terry
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Preordered the bluray for Lower Decks season 4 and it arrived today. Pleasantly surprised to see that they have commentary for five out of the ten episodes, I think it was like 2-3 per season before. Robert Duncan McNeill is in the 4x10 commentary, too. edit: Oh, hey, and a video interview with Shannon Fill, actor for Sito Jaxa! Bobulus fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Apr 17, 2024 |
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