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Come on man if Biden refuses to debate Trump it's gonna make him look pathetic. It'll be amazingly easy to turn into an attack too.
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debates aren't for watching intellectual battles (especially between these two particular candidates at this point in time) but for the amusement factor & exposure to ideas outside people's weird lil echo chambers. and yeah ^^^ to prove that you're sentient enough to handle the job of presidenting.
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it will def look pathetic and weak if he refuses to debate trump but my guess is they will take that hit vs him drooling and farting on live tv
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Willa Rogers posted:& exposure to ideas outside people's weird lil echo chambers. This part definitely isn't true though, since it's not like the candidates give substantive answers to anything. It's literally just entertainment (and in this case a good excuse to get a less polished view of how the candidate actually functions when speaking).
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Ytlaya posted:This part definitely isn't true though, since it's not like the candidates give substantive answers to anything. it doesn't have to be substantive; imagine trump calling biden "genocide joe" and democrat heads exploding or biden.... not drooling & ripping on trump. both things can be true; it can be entertaining & also something voters haven't heard in their echo chambers.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:57
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trump refusing to debate his primary opponents was a gift to biden if that's what happens
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Apr 17, 2024 17:58
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They should debate every week until the election
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anyway, I'm open to finding out that prior to 2020 the democrat line was that debates were useless rather than thinking this is a newly found excuse to help pop-pop retain what dignity he has left.
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Apr 17, 2024 17:58
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no it wasent lol the debates were all about trump
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now, would I like to see Joe Biden try to debate Donald Trump again, absolutely, it would be a hack metaphor made reality in a way i'd find aesthetically pleasing. two pudding-brained old men rambling at one another about why they're slightly more vital than the other senile corpse and that's why you have to vote for them, what's not to love but the pretense that Logic, Reason, and Debate are the foundational principles of democracy is the most liberal it is possible to be the whole discussion is rendered more pointless than usual by the Trump people having established they aren't going to do any debates quite some time ago
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^^^ those weren't my reasons & trump has changed his mind bc of biden's declining lucidity.Zokari posted:trump refusing to debate his primary opponents was a gift to biden if that's what happens trump is already baiting biden about debating, even saying he'll start doing them now, and even tho he originally had an issue with the debate commission's rules.
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HallelujahLee posted:no it wasent lol the debates were all about trump hillary debated him 3 times.
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Willa Rogers posted:^^^ those weren't my reasons & trump has changed his mind bc of biden's declining lucidity. remember that time Elizabeth Warren took Trump promising he'd pay out if she did something for him seriously good times were had by all
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:afraid he's got you on this one willa what's funny is despite dropping tons of epic owns, the West Wing dems never did stop getting opposed by Republicans, in fact the opposition was so effective they basically didn't do anything! A liberal fantasy indeed
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Apr 17, 2024 18:03
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Biden should debate trump because it would be a confusing, unpleasant experience for him and the drugs they shoot him up with might shorten his rotten life
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edit: never mind, posting on a tape delay
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WampaLord posted:what's funny is despite dropping tons of epic owns, the West Wing dems never did stop getting opposed by Republicans, in fact the opposition was so effective they basically didn't do anything! but they got to drop a bunch of epic owns on them to an appreciative audience, and isn't that what REALLY matters
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Willa Rogers posted:hillary debated him 3 times. that was in relation to the other poster
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quote:The Trump campaign argued that in 2020, Americans "were robbed of a true and robust debate," with the commission only hosting two debates that took place "much too late in the election calendar despite voting timelines having moved up exponentially." quote:President Biden on Friday said his decision on whether to debate President Trump ahead of Election Day is dependent on his opponent’s "behavior."
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debates have the potential to be funny, tho they rarely are
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paranoid randroid posted:Biden should debate trump because it would be a confusing, unpleasant experience for him and the drugs they shoot him up with might shorten his rotten life yep
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paranoid randroid posted:Biden should debate trump because it would be a confusing, unpleasant experience for him and the drugs they shoot him up with might shorten his rotten life through a wacky mix-up they are each given the other's chemical stack before debate, leading to a Biden whose flesh is visibly falling off the bone attempting to debate a Trump whose eyeballs have both exploded
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Willa Rogers posted:You know that you won't be forced to watch it at gunpoint, right? I don't remember if I cared all that much about if the 2020 debates happened but I know they were completely useless wastes of time for everyone involved. You think i give a poo poo enough about winning some dumb tit for tat flamewar with you to spend time going through 4 year old posts? lol You have a rooting interest in the debate (for Trump) so you want to see your favorite guy own Biden. Willa Rogers posted:debates aren't for watching intellectual battles (especially between these two particular candidates at this point in time) but for the amusement factor & exposure to ideas outside people's weird lil echo chambers.
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I mean if people already think your candidate's brain is shredded And then when they ask "is your candidate able to have an unscripted conversation in public?" And the answer is "no" Well that doesn't look good
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paranoid randroid posted:Biden should debate trump because it would be a confusing, unpleasant experience for him and the drugs they shoot him up with might shorten his rotten life
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for the last like 2 months I have been getting approximately 20 texts a week from the dnc asking me for money. thanks for selling all my info Bernie you fucker
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:through a wacky mix-up they are each given the other's chemical stack before debate, leading to a Biden whose flesh is visibly falling off the bone attempting to debate a Trump whose eyeballs have both exploded this is the event horizon remake I’ve been waiting for
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Best Friends posted:China’s totally real and oppressive social credit score that strangely no one can cite any examples of what a specific score is, or by what mechanisms that score applies to things. They make you ride the slow trains instead of the HSR. 
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Biden should not debate Trump because they should be forced to compete on a humiliating game show instead
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instead of a debate they should do that turkish wrestling where they get all oiled up and try to stick their hands down each others leather pants
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There's a dude at work who told me unionically that the 2008 film Kung Fu Panda was pro China propaganda
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mcmagic and willa are both right debates are useless and ultimately pointless but it is fun to gawk at the dementia addled pigs that will have the ability to end human civilization with the push of a button. watching or caring about the debates makes you a politics sicko but I got bad news for anyone who posts ITT
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Anecdotally, a lot of smart people I know are crippled by neurosis, I would guess because they're applying the same methods of rigorous investigation and evaluation to themselves? On a personal level, it would be nice if they could get out of their own way, and their professional and educational attainment would certainly have been less painful, probably easier, if they didn't constantly doubt and evaluate themselves. generally, if you have a 'smart person' job or credentials, to obtain them you had to survive a battery of tests, hoop jumping, and gate keeping most of which was pointless, arbitrary, and or serves to exclude talented people on the basis of class, race, gender, etc this makes people totally neurotic and self doubting, thats my theory anyway
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Yadoppsi posted:They make you ride the slow trains instead of the HSR. But then things like, what is an example of a good social credit score? What’s a bad one? What specifically keeps you from buying a ticket on the hsr? Do you get an error at the ticket machine? how does it know to not give you a ticket if so? For the credit scores we live under, anyone could supply those examples easily. But strangely for the extremely real Chinese social credit score, that’s not available anywhere. almost as if
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spacemang_spliff posted:mcmagic and willa are both right It’s really no different than how Biden can’t be assed to go tour disasters. There’s no point to the ritual in any material sense, but the fact that he can’t be assed to perform the ritual is very telling
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Anecdotally, a lot of smart people I know are crippled by neurosis, I would guess because they're applying the same methods of rigorous investigation and evaluation to themselves? On a personal level, it would be nice if they could get out of their own way, and their professional and educational attainment would certainly have been less painful, probably easier, if they didn't constantly doubt and evaluate themselves. It's a phenomenon that folks have described regularly throughout history, notably in The Second Coming by Yeats Yeats posted:Turning and turning in the widening gyre
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Debates are totally useless but they're also part of the theater of politics and watching 2 confused old men on stage who are barely able to stay coherent should be something everyone gets to see.
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paranoid randroid posted:Biden should debate trump because it would be a confusing, unpleasant experience for him and the drugs they shoot him up with might shorten his rotten life
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docbeard posted:Biden should not debate Trump because they should be forced to compete on a humiliating game show instead Ideally one of those Japanese game shows where you have to live off promotional coupons for a month or they just lock you in a room until you satisfy a condition you have not been told in advance
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