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Dixon Chisholm
Jan 2, 2020

The Sean posted:

So Biden clearly can't do debates at this point. But is he even campaigning to open audiences? This time in the cycle for 2020 he was challenging people at these events to push up contests like every other day.

I guess they actually (pretended) to have a primary last time.

look, fat

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PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

https://www.currentaffairs.org/2019/03/the-obama-boys

On how Obama dropped his grassroots movement:

Let’s remember what the left critique of Obama’s administration is. Leftists argue, roughly, that while Obama came in with lofty promises of “hope” and “change,” the change was largely symbolic rather than substantive, and he failed to stand up for progressive values or fight for serious shifts in U.S. policy. He deported staggering numbers of immigrants, let Wall Street criminals off the hook, failed to take on (and now proudly boasts of his support for) the fossil fuel industry, sold over $100 billion in arms to the brutal Saudi government, killed American citizens with drones (and then made sickening jokes about it), killed lots more non-American citizens with drones (including Yemenis going to a wedding) and then misled the public about it, promised “the most transparent administration ever” and then was “worse than Nixon” in his paranoia about leakers, pushed a market-friendly healthcare plan based on conservative premises instead of aiming for single-payer, and showered Israel with both public support and military aid even as it systematically violated the human rights of Palestinians (Here, for example, is Haaretz: “Unlike [George W.] Bush, who gave Israel’s Iron Dome system a frosty response, Obama has led the way in funding and supporting the research, development and production of the Iron Dome”). Obama’s defenders responded to every single criticism by insisting that Obama had his hands tied by a Republican congress, but many of the things Obama did were freely chosen. In education policy, he hired charterization advocate Arne Duncan and pushed a horrible “dog-eat-dog” funding system called “Race To The Top.” Nobody forced him to hire Friedmanite economists like Larry Summers, or actual Republicans like Robert Gates, or to select middle-of-the-road judicial appointees like Elena Kagan and Merrick Garland. Who on Earth picks Rahm Emanuel, out of every person in the world, to be their chief of staff?

...

Granted, these men are all devoted admirers of Obama who set out to defend his legacy. But in telling stories intended to make Obama and his staff look good, they end up affirming that the left’s cynicism was fully warranted. Litt, for instance, seems to have been a man with almost no actual political beliefs. Recently graduated from Yale when he joined the campaign, he was never much of an “activist.” Litt was drawn to Obama not because he felt that Obama would actually bring particular changes that he wanted to see happen, but because he developed an emotional obsession with Barack Obama as an individual person. Pfeiffer feels similarly—he fell in “platonic political love.” Litt’s book begins:

On January 3, 2008, I pledged my heart and soul to Barack Obama… My transformation was immediate and all-consuming. One moment I was a typical college senior, barely interested in politics. The next moment I would have done anything, literally anything, for a freshman senator from Illinois.

He describes the beginning of his brainless infatuation: “[Obama] spoke like presidents in movies. He looked younger than my dad. I didn’t have time for a second thought, or even a first one. I simply believed.”


...

[B[Christopher Hitchens once observed that while there is almost universal agreement that Barack Obama is a memorable public speaker, almost nobody can actually remember or quote any lines from an Obama speech.[/B] Indeed, Litt comes away from an Obama event and says “yet here’s the remarkable thing: I don’t remember a word.” He felt “a kind of patriotic ecstasy” but he doesn’t actually seem to have been inspired by the idea of actually doing anything with the power of government. Indeed, Pfeiffer’s memoir says that while conventional wisdom in politics is that you should talk about “issues and policy positions” for Obama “the campaign was the message.” Paraphrasing Jay-Z (“I’m not a businessman, I’m a business, man”) the Obama staff concludes that Obama is not a “message man,” he’s the “message, man.” Pfeiffer says he had “desperately wanted” something in his life that felt “more like a cause than a campaign,” and in Obama he found it. But the “hope and change” they sought consisted of getting Obama elected. Obama “made our union more perfect simply by entering the White House,” Litt says. After that, it was all a bit “gauzy but vague” (Pfeiffer’s words). No wonder, then, that after being elected Obama disbanded his grassroots organizing apparatus—an act regarded by some as one of the worst political mistakes of his presidency. There was nothing to organize for. Scott Brown, whose 2010 election destroyed the Democrats’ Senate majority, has scoffed at the idea that the switch is what prevented Obama from getting his agenda through, pointing out that from 2009-2011:

They had two years to do whatever they wanted and they did hardly anything. They didn’t do minimum wage. They didn’t do climate change. They didn’t do immigration. They didn’t do health care. They just assumed they would always have this supermajority…

Litt’s memoir is remarkable for its lack of interest in actual policy.

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These three men are speechwriters, so we can forgive them for being preoccupied with descriptions of things rather than the things themselves. But this tendency to prioritize “getting the words right” over the actual experiences of human beings ran through the whole Obama presidency. Ordinary people were a kind of alien species—Litt says they referred to them as “real people (RPs)” and tried to litter speeches with “RP stories” to make them relatable. “In Washington you never stop hearing about the details of policy but you rarely see its effects.” This is only true if you rarely bother to examine the effects.

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Lot more in the link if you want details on how Obama was happy to throw his grassroots organisation to the dogs like Hitler the SA.

PoontifexMacksimus has issued a correction as of 22:31 on Apr 18, 2024

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

The US has vetoed a draft resolution that would have recommended to the 193-member UN General Assembly that “the State of Palestine be admitted to membership of the United Nations.”

Britain and Switzerland abstained, while the remaining 12 council members voted yes.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/liveblog/2024/4/18/israels-war-on-gaza-live-children-among-7-killed-as-israeli-strikes-rafah?update=2845580

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!

quote:

Given his own personal experience, he is obviously in favour of academic freedom which he describes as not just the freedom to teach but to enquire and travel the road less travelled. He points out that in the US the idea went through various stages, freedom from churches, then from corporations and later the state (MacCarthy). Nowadays, all three encroach upon it, sometimes in unison and to the same end. He goes again into some detail on the issue and chooses the thorny ground of Holocaust denial. He is Jewish, so he is clearly not advocating that the Holocaust did not happen, but rather how it is dealt with on campus and links it up to other issues, giving examples when he himself has been uncomfortable teaching and the examples he relies on. He makes an argument for challenging ideas. This section, like the Obama part is overly long and could also have done with a bit of editing. But he clearly comes out against censorship and new morality police that abound everywhere.

quote:

It’s easier to fight against codified speech restrictions than against “enlightened” campus opinion, which, in the name of its “special duty,” insinuates itself in campus life and throttles free speech with its asphyxiating pieties.
The situation now is that debate is being stifled on a whole range of issues, beyond the obvious ones and the high profile debates on Men’s Rights i.e. the right to id your way into women’s spaces. Due to his own experience, he does seem to think that it is more the case when an academic goes off campus that the trouble arises. But actually, the baying mob throttling free speech are doing so on campus now to people who have never ventured off it, or at least have never been given much opportunity to do so. He cites a very interesting case, that of Bertrand Russell when he was appointed to City University. His morals, his sex life and general outlook were brandished about as reasons for not hiring him. Russell defended himself, saying they were irrelevant, he was appointed as a lecturer in “modern concepts of logic,” “foundations of mathematics,” and “relations of pure to applied science.” In the modern cancel culture that wouldn’t stand. People are sacked precisely because of their private lives or their opinions on matters wholly unrelated to the area in which they teach. It didn’t stand back then either, Russell lost the case precisely because he argued in favour of homosexuality and premarital cohabitation, amongst other things. Our woke liberals on campus, those who hounded Kathleen Stock out of her job are as reactionary as the judge in the case. He goes on to look at other cases before finishing off with the details of his own case and his unemployment and unemployability in academia.
I treasure Norman Finkelstein for 2 reasons: his activism for Palestine, and the way his latest work attracts leftists with a weird axe to grind against trans people. This way I don't have to sniff 'em out.

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things

Nichael posted:

if i was president, i simply wouldn't do genocide

I would genocide the rich ending with offing myself since clearly i'd have to be rich to get there.

Parity warning
Nov 1, 2009



3rd Place, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Gripweed posted:

I do think Harris could win the election if Biden died by the end of May.

that'll be tough to do after they nominate hillary instead

The Pussy Boss
Nov 2, 2004

Could've built affordable housing for like 100 people in a building that size. Or just left it as a public park.

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

silicone thrills posted:

I would genocide the rich ending with offing myself since clearly i'd have to be rich to get there.

nah the gulag for you instead. :angel:

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

silicone thrills posted:

I would genocide the rich ending with offing myself since clearly i'd have to be rich to get there.

I would simply isekai myself to become the overpowered communist president of the fantasy world.

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

PoontifexMacksimus posted:

I would simply isekai myself to become the overpowered communist president of the fantasy world.

lend lease truck kun

Toph Bei Fong
Feb 29, 2008



Ytlaya posted:

No...can't you read? Steel isn't indestructible.

Biden is referring to the fact that, even though the people of Pittsburgh are strong, they still need the painful procedure infusing their metaphorical spine with adamantium.

Jet fuel can't melt my spine!!

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Ytlaya posted:

No...can't you read? Steel isn't indestructible.

prove it: destroy some steel right now

Lib and let die
Aug 26, 2004

Uncle Boogeyman posted:

prove it: destroy some steel right now

just put some water on it an d wait

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

Lib and let die posted:

just put some water on it an d wait

we're trying to destroy some steel, not grow a freakin houseplant

WampaLord
Jan 14, 2010

quote:

That 60ish days of the Obama barely held together supermajority have been used to say the "dems don't support this because they didn't pass a bill in this window" for 16 years now, it's getting tiresome.

I feel like it's pretty damning of our system that the "good" party has only had 60 days of actually being able to Do Something in the last 16 years

And also they didn't Do much during the 60 days the did have.

Good Soldier Svejk
Jul 5, 2010

Trump sure managed to get a lot of poo poo done even with the opposing party holding the House/Senate

Obama was just a lovely politician
as is Joe Biden

They both got outmaneuvered by a guy who can barely read

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

quote:

He added that according to U.S. law, if the resolution passed, the Biden administration would have to defund the UN, which is not something it wants to do.
The Parliamentarian strikes again!

SixteenShells
Sep 30, 2021

WampaLord posted:

I feel like it's pretty damning of our system that the "good" party has only had 60 days of actually being able to Do Something in the last 16 years

And also they didn't Do much during the 60 days the did have.

a competent party would have had legislation drafted, reviewed, and ready to submit the second they see a legislative window they can exploit. 60 days should have been ten times as much time as they needed. look at how fast they passed the "it's illegal to protest at a SCOTUS judge's house" law!

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Trump sure managed to get a lot of poo poo done even with the opposing party holding the House/Senate

Obama was just a lovely politician
as is Joe Biden

They both got outmaneuvered by a guy who can barely read

It was pretty funny that the most productive period in the Obama administration was the last 20 days or so of his presidency where he laid down a lot of progressive rules but made sure to do it so that Trump had plenty of time to reverse them all in the first week of his presidency.

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Good Soldier Svejk posted:

Trump sure managed to get a lot of poo poo done even with the opposing party holding the House/Senate

Obama was just a lovely politician
as is Joe Biden

They both got outmaneuvered by a guy who can barely read

The political remit of Biden and Obama was specifically to Not Do Anything.

That's why Trump is a political outsider, and an enemy of the system, and is called a populist demagogue, because he says he will actually Do Something,

He can't be trusted to do much good willingly, but by just promising Something he is shaking up a system based on worshipping and servicing the inertia of Capital.

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

SixteenShells posted:

a competent party would have had legislation drafted, reviewed, and ready to submit the second they see a legislative window they can exploit. 60 days should have been ten times as much time as they needed. look at how fast they passed the "it's illegal to protest at a SCOTUS judge's house" law!

We know this because the Republicans obviously have cabinets with every evil plan they could hope for locked away somewhere, awaiting der tag. Remember how it came out by that by 9/12, war plans, and "economic reform" proposals for Iraq, Iran, Syria, Sudan, Yemen, etc. were circulating around the Bush administration?

Probably Magic
Oct 9, 2012

Looking cute, feeling cute.

DJJIB-DJDCT posted:

Norm did a great job explaining why Obama is a black hole of narcissism, to a pretty bewildering degree, but it's long form (with like 30 footnotes). How would you present the idea to a normal person?

Barack Obama tried to hold a huge birthday party during a pandemic, and when he got called out on it, he responded by cutting from the list people who got him the presidency like David Axelrod but kept around celebrities like Jay-Z.

There. One sentence.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Obama ftw

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

Probably Magic posted:

Barack Obama tried to hold a huge birthday party during a pandemic, and when he got called out on it, he responded by cutting from the list people who got him the presidency like David Axelrod but kept around celebrities like Jay-Z.

There. One sentence.

in obama's defense are you telling me you wouldn't be looking for an excuse to not have to hang out with david axelrod

HallelujahLee
May 3, 2009

baquack obamailure

DJJIB-DJDCT
Feb 1, 2024

Probably Magic posted:

Barack Obama tried to hold a huge birthday party during a pandemic, and when he got called out on it, he responded by cutting from the list people who got him the presidency like David Axelrod but kept around celebrities like Jay-Z.

There. One sentence.

Thanks, that's perfect.

PoundSand
Jul 30, 2021

Also proficient with kites

WampaLord posted:

I feel like it's pretty damning of our system that the "good" party has only had 60 days of actually being able to Do Something in the last 16 years

And also they didn't Do much during the 60 days the did have.
Trump replaced RGB in like 2 weeks so clearly doing stuff fast in politics is possible when you have desire and means.

Dr. Jerrold Coe
Feb 6, 2021

Is it me?

Nichael posted:

Dumb Shits of America

DemonKKKratic No$ocialists of AmeriKKKa

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=teQLq3JITbw&ab_channel=verytallbart

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

PoundSand posted:

Trump replaced RGB in like 2 weeks so clearly doing stuff fast in politics is possible when you have desire and means.

true but it's fascist

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

PoundSand posted:

Trump replaced RGB in like 2 weeks so clearly doing stuff fast in politics is possible when you have desire and means.

How long did it take Biden to get the first Globemaster full of 2000 lb bombs to Israel

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/tab_delete/status/1781068533344165920

https://twitter.com/tab_delete/status/1781082669004263737

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'

dumbass

F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



Yeah, wonder how college like is going for that smug little snitch Theo Baker these days. I'm sure everyone loves him on campus.

camoseven
Dec 30, 2005

RODOLPHONE RINGIN'


the face of a real cool guy who's fun at parties

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
"Long Island University" lol

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003


F_Shit_Fitzgerald
Feb 2, 2017



He looks exactly like I expected: the face of someone who was born on third and thinks he hit a triple and invented the game of baseball.

my bony fealty
Oct 1, 2008

Theo Hitler

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PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

When will the US finally ban the hammer and sickle as the symbols of hatred they are??

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