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It's a shame that I was never really able to get into the Bethesda fallout games. Like a played through and beat 3 but I put like 2 hours into 4 and just stopped. I think a lot of it is probably Bethesda fatigue combined with my general apathy towards first person games. Were the wasteland remakes any good coming from someone who much preferred fallout 1 and 2?
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There's no Wasteland remake I'm aware of but there are sequels. I liked 2, I haven't gotten around to 3 but have heard good things.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:22
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Yea, that's what I meant, the Kickstarted sequels, my bad
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Apr 20, 2024 22:23
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Not quite sure how to articulate it but I do feel that the show is pushing Obsidian shaped objects through a Bethesda shaped hole. Mostly the same but also missing some edges. Not enough to fundamentally change it, but... different. The most indicative thing to my brain is that when they use the Fallout theme for thr NCR they used the FO3/4 melody rather than the New Vegas melody.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:23
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Grand Fromage posted:There's no Wasteland remake I'm aware of but there are sequels. I liked 2, I haven't gotten around to 3 but have heard good things. Wasteland 3 is a good game that probably doesn’t deserve its place on my personal shitlist anymore. When it launched multiplayer was absolutely borked and that dragged it down because my bud and I had planned to play through it together. It’s also got the best cover of Everybody Have Fun Tonight to ever exist.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:28
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This obviously isn’t gonna win Best Drama or anything, but it was the right balance of pulpy and prestige IMO. I liked that it wasn’t too reverential to the game and tried to do its own thing. Only thing I took issue with the acting. Purnell does a great wide-eyed happy-go-lucky vault dweller but she really struggled to sell the despair in the finale. Moten is pretty one note. Goggins, on the other hand, crushes every scene he’s in. Also for a show set in California it’s awfully white.
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Apr 20, 2024 22:41
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If you kiss a ghoul, can you keep both heads vertical and then just stick your nose into their nose hole?
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Apr 20, 2024 22:57
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I'm curious how they did the nose makeup. The ghouls look like Halloween costumes but they're also really good Halloween costumes.
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Apr 20, 2024 23:04
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I’m assuming green screen. In all the makeup footage I’ve seen they never showed how the nose was put together
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Apr 20, 2024 23:07
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They probably are doing the same method as they did for Red Skull. Goggins walking around with a green nose all day shooting.
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Apr 20, 2024 23:09
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Not green screen, he had a nose piece that had tracking dots on it
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Apr 20, 2024 23:11
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Accipiter posted:I've actually never visited NMA before today despite being a Fallout fan for decades. I've of course heard of it a handful of times over the years, I've just never had a desire to be part of that kind of dedicated fan community for, well, anything. (Unless Star Trek Shitposting counts?) I remember somebody's manifesto from NMA from back in the day that said any new Fallout that is not an isometric game that looks exactly like 1/2, no graphic update whatsoever even, that was just unhinged.
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Apr 20, 2024 23:12
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I remember an NMA review of Fallout 3 calling it "unfortunately fun" lol
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Dawgstar posted:I remember somebody's manifesto from NMA from back in the day that said any new Fallout that is not an isometric game that looks exactly like 1/2, no graphic update whatsoever even, that was just unhinged. I closed the tab after reading a comment that, referring to the show, was something like "Unmitigated garbage! Amazon spent $158 million on this shitfest LMAO" followed by a smattering of comments similar to "this isn't even a good show on its own merits" and "the show is badly written, badly mixed, badly blocked, doesn't look good at all, and violently rapes the lore." That's all I needed to see to know just what kind of nutbags are over there.
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Apr 21, 2024 00:13
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Being a fan of a thing makes you not like things from that thing
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Apr 21, 2024 00:23
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Based on the degenerate game mods made for the Bethesda Fallout games, I mostly assume that fans have irradiated brains by default
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Compendium posted:Based on the degenerate game mods made for the Bethesda Fallout games, I mostly assume that fans have irradiated brains by default No I'm doesn't.
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Apr 21, 2024 00:40
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eeEprQ0x4 God I hope the New Vegas theme plays at some point in Season 2. That is one angry piano.
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Apr 21, 2024 00:42
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I only have three radioactive sources in my home, my brain is fine. It's fine!!
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counterfeitsaint posted:I'll never understand the whole sending death threats thing. Such a nonsense thing to do. People get weirdly possessive over the first non-mainstream thing they love and understand I think. Especially when video games were not mainstream, such a niche community and people get protective about it.
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Apr 21, 2024 01:26
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I generally watch shows on my morning commute so it’s possible I missed it but Did we get a reveal on what sinister thing was happening in Vault 32? Was it supposed to be that they discovered 31’s secret? Doesn’t seem like that would be enough to off yourself and write cryptic messages on the wall. Also No elaboration on the cult behind Moldaver. We see her NCR settlement and it seems pretty normal. Was it just a Vault 4 thing?
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Apr 21, 2024 01:28
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Arc Hammer posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7eeEprQ0x4 That and the bit in the intro after Benny shoots you are burned into my brain https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZxGLhrefAs&t=270s That said I've heard it enough times that these days I change the title music to either My Chrysalis Highwayman or Home On The Wastes depending on my mood. Wouldn't mind a Home On The Wastes shoutout in the show, come to think of it
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Apr 21, 2024 01:44
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2house2fly posted:That and the bit in the intro after Benny shoots you are burned into my brain "Ain't like I expect to find you've got a family history of getting shot in the head." "No, but I have restarted Fallout New Vegas over 500 times and Benny has shot me in every single one."
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Apr 21, 2024 01:48
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Schools in the future: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eycJbNi4cBA&pp=ygUdR2lybCB3aXRoIGFsbCB0aGUgZ29mdHMgY2xhc3M%3D
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"Four: I'm slow to embrace new ideas." I click Strongly Disagree as I begin my 50th playthrough of Fallout: New Vegas. I think the only mention of Shady Sands in New Vegas is the NCR citizenship test asking "What was the original name of the NCR capital?" That implies the capital changed before 2281; maybe that's the Fall of Shady Sands, and the NCR seat of government moved to a region that wasn't hit so hard by drought.
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Dr.Radical posted:I generally watch shows on my morning commute so it’s possible I missed it but Did we get a reveal on what sinister thing was happening in Vault 32? Was it supposed to be that they discovered 31’s secret? Doesn’t seem like that would be enough to off yourself and write cryptic messages on the wall. Also No elaboration on the cult behind Moldaver. We see her NCR settlement and it seems pretty normal. Was it just a Vault 4 thing? No, nothing explicit. No signposts to tell us what exactly happened. The vaults can't talk to eachother all that well. It's a facility run by middle managers, so of course they silo off their little fiefdoms and dont normally share resources. We also have no idea the time between communications of the vaults. It could be that they only talk to eachother once a year at best. So nobody communicating with 32 for a year+ could make sense. Actually, the more that I think about it, 31,32,33 being stuck in a forever hell cycle of middle managers competing with each other makes pretty good sense in and of itself.
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Unless someone has figured it out or I missed it, they haven't figured out what the experiment Vault 33 and 32 were running. Maybe Vault 33 was about testing cousins and Vault 32 was the supply to correct that problem.
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I think 33 and 32 were supposed to be manipulated by the popsicles into breeding the perfect class of middle managers to rule the wasteland. 32 apparently found out about the experiment, revolted, and got wiped out though that is somewhat more speculative.
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The people in 32 & 33 were also being conditioned to vote for anyone from 31 for overseer with (possibly manufactured) crises being the trigger. "When things look glum, vote for 31" or however the saying went. The idea that it was a democratic meritocracy was a lie: one of the pre-war Vault-Tec middle managers would always be in control of those vaults and no amount of voting would ever change that.
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My assumption re: Vault 32 is they found out at least some of what was going on with Vault 31 (see the grafitti) and there then gassed with standard issue Vault-Tec Gas That Makes You Murder-Suicide (thus explaining all the people killing each other and the toaster suicide) or something. what I'm unclear on is who cleaned up the bodies and set up everything up overnight for the vault 33 people to move in? The only people who would have been able to do it were Overseer Betty and the mini robobrain, they couldn't let anyone else do it or they would see the graffiti and whatnot. did they unfreeze a bunch of people for one night or what?
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Arc Hammer posted:Not quite sure how to articulate it but I do feel that the show is pushing Obsidian shaped objects through a Bethesda shaped hole. Mostly the same but also missing some edges. Not enough to fundamentally change it, but... different. there isn't an annoying guy screaming bear and bull so no. The NCR flag unfurling isn't completely like the FO4 theme because it lacks the strings but its a much more somber melody than the guitars in FNV.
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Apr 21, 2024 04:24
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Whenever you notice something like that, a robot did it
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Question for the game players: is the tv show the most central plot of the franchise?
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covidstomper58 posted:Unless someone has figured it out or I missed it, they haven't figured out what the experiment Vault 33 and 32 were running. I figured it was just this way they'd have a more believable reason to control, for lack of a better term, breeding in the vaults. If you're working to create the perfect manager through selective breeding you'd need to able to control it. The show opened with Lucy having to apply to be able to have children, which in these vaults required a transfer from one vault to another, and having no real control over who she was stuck with. That's how you'd breed plants or livestock, prevent it from reproducing with anything other than something you want it to and see what the result is. This way they have a perfect reason to move only one or two people over as needed, and if something went wrong in one vault they could just expand to the next without any real issues other than potentially slowing down the experiment a little.
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I’ve seen some people say Maximus is a bit one note, and on rewatching I don’t think that’s right. He has to do a bunch of iron man style extreme closeup work, and he does a subtle and effective performance. You can see him change from new guy to power drunk to compassion to understanding the world isn’t a meritocracy. I like him, though he’s definitely in 3rd or 4th place (I love me some Pemberton), but that’s only because Purcell and Goggins are so good.
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Apr 21, 2024 05:08
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I have been seeing a lot of "hes a better finn from star wars"
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It must be rough for a couple of relatively young and new actors to have to try to stand out on screen with a full power Goggins.
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Apr 21, 2024 05:12
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Steve Yun posted:Question for the game players: What do you mean most central? It focuses on things the games talk about, in terms of topics. there are some revelations. But most games are set in discrete wasteland with some recurring characters, not interlocking plots between games.
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Steve Yun posted:Question for the game players: Not really. All the games are separate stories, that take place decades apart. there's no central plot within series, except what happened in past. TV Series is continuation of that. a New story happening after the games that expands the lore.
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Dr.Radical posted:I generally watch shows on my morning commute so it’s possible I missed it but Did we get a reveal on what sinister thing was happening in Vault 32? Was it supposed to be that they discovered 31’s secret? Doesn’t seem like that would be enough to off yourself and write cryptic messages on the wall. Also No elaboration on the cult behind Moldaver. We see her NCR settlement and it seems pretty normal. Was it just a Vault 4 thing? As others have noted, that seems to be the case. Given that the overseer's corpse is tied to their chair, and there are signs of violent struggle between vault dwellers, I'd wager someone figured out what 31 was all about, and there was a rebellion against 31's rule, which seems to have succeeded, briefly. The largest concentration of bodies are found at the vault door, which they were attempting to cut through. The writing on the wall suggests they knew what was really in 31. idk what actually killed that group of vault dwellers. Maybe 31 gassed them?
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