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riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
Heathcliff


Compu-toon


Garfield


Overboard


Monty


Classic Arlo and Janis (May 19, 2002)


On The Fastrack


No Safe Havens on Sundays!

Zippy The Pinhead


Rae The Doe, which you can support by pledging to the author's Patreon


For Better or For Worse

riderchop fucked around with this message at 07:43 on Apr 21, 2024

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Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


riderchop posted:

Safe Havens
That's not today's strip.

riderchop
Aug 10, 2010

av by @daikonquest!
whoops!

i forgot!

No Safe Havens on Sundays!

Darthemed
Oct 28, 2007

"A data unit?
For me?
"




College Slice
Retail




Popcom


Strontium
Aug 28, 2009

Dexter didn't much care for the party.
Daddy Daze


Take It From The Tinkersons


Macanudo


Dark Side Of The Horse

catlord
Mar 22, 2009

What's on your mind, Axa?

Haha, what the gently caress.

Synthbuttrange
May 6, 2007

Oh god I guess Doctor Hormone's not a name, more of a description.

Maxwell Lord
Dec 12, 2008

I am drowning.
There is no sign of land.
You are coming down with me, hand in unlovable hand.

And I hope you die.

I hope we both die.


:smith:

Grimey Drawer
See, Safe Havens, THIS is how you do it.

Alhazred
Feb 16, 2011




Hwurmp posted:

Camelot is a gay place

And also a physical abusive place. Jesus loving christ.

Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

violence is okay if it awakens something in you

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

Tiggum posted:

Wilbur's idealised version of himself doesn't need glasses, but is still bald.

That's a prescription eye mask.

Howard Beale
Feb 22, 2001

It's like this, Peanut

Hippocrass posted:

Us Boys(April 20, 1912)



I was not expecting a storyline on sandlot game fixing in 1912! And for some reason I really like how it involves corruption and chocolate eclairs but not gambling. The stakes are appropriately kid-sized.

Forum accident
Jun 15, 2006

All hail Thor...the THUNDER GOD!
Mother Goose and Grimm


(11/26/2002)


Frank and Ernest


(6/30/1994)


Ziggy


(11/26/1971)

EasyEW
Mar 8, 2006

I've got my father's great big six-shooter with me 'n' if anybody in this woods wants to start somethin' just let 'em--but they DASSN'T.
Mutts


Sally Forth


Peanuts (April 24, 1977)


Crankshaft


Thimble Theater (November 24, 1940)


Popeye


e: for dubba-Mutts

EasyEW fucked around with this message at 15:23 on Apr 21, 2024

Pancho Jueves
Aug 20, 2007

BEST FRIENDS!!

riderchop posted:

On The Fastrack


All Bill had to do was make the background any other color to make this not look like vigorous butt-flossing.

Pluggers

Tiggum
Oct 24, 2007

Your life and your quest end here.


EasyEW posted:

Sally Forth
:crossarms:

Selachian
Oct 9, 2012

Rhymes with Orange



Get Fuzzy 4/20/04



Brenda Starr 1/22-24/53





Smokey Stover 1/22/61



Everyday Movies 6/16/37



"I bet one of her fellers are comin', Mom! Look how's she cleaning."

Note how the carpet sweeper is plugged into the overhead lamp socket, which was normal before electrical gadgets started to proliferate and builders started wiring houses to support more than just lighting.

Invisible Scarlet O'Neil 7/22-24/43





Closer Than We Think! 1/22/61

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

Bizarro


The Family Circus


Slylock Fox


Flash Gordon


FoxTrot

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!

Selachian posted:

Invisible Scarlet O'Neil 7/22-24/43





Ah, Scarlett is going to become weird, unlike what it used to be...

And although it's pretty racist, the butler's origin story is hilarious.

Vox Valentine
May 31, 2013

Solving all of life's problems through enhanced casting of Occam's Razor. Reward yourself with an imaginary chalice.

She Can't Just Be Some Lady, She Has To Be Important

















Was not expecting to post Mormon pornography today.

alright, alright, the book joke is funny.

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do





someone never read Bridge to Terabithia

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

The Wandering Culinarian



Cowslips Warren
Oct 29, 2005

What use had they for tricks and cunning, living in the enemy's warren and paying his price?

Grimey Drawer
goddamn it, Flash keeps hitting it out of the park. it's like loving early Pixar. which scares me too.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Alhazred posted:

And also a physical abusive place. Jesus loving christ.

Safeword technology was less advanced back then.

The_Other
Dec 28, 2012

Welcome Back, Galaxy Geek.

riderchop posted:

For Better or For Worse


So I was waiting for this story to end before posting this; in Suddenly silver: Celebrating 25 Years of For Better or For Worse there are several commentaries by Lynn and her family on the strip, with two parts that reference the death of Farley. Apologies in advance for the walls of text.

From Lynn's comments of "The Middle Years"

Lynn Johnston posted:

April fell into a rain-swollen creek. Once again, a member of the family found themselves in mortal danger, once again, there was a rescue just in time. This ending, however, was not entirely a happy one, as Farley the dog died from the stress of his heroic struggle to save April. It was the first time that death appeared onstage in the strip, with all the grief, guilt, and heartache that comes with it. It would not be the last time.

Charles Schulz was now one of my closet friends and confidants in the business. When I told him I had to do away with Farley, he was genuinely furious. I explained that I had no choice. Since the strip developed in real time, the dog was much older than he should be, and to allow him to stay in the strip would be contrary to everything I was doing. When you're working in real time, you have to deal with life spans! He was angry nonetheless, admonishing my decision. He threatened to have Snoopy hit by a truck at the same time and taken to the hospital. "Then nobody will care about your stupid story," he said. He was serious, so when the time came to write the series, I didn't tell him. The episode came as a surprise-and he never forgave me. Rather, he never forgave April for falling into the river in the first place! Like some readers, there are cartoonists who take these characters far too seriously.

These longer, more controversial stories sparked plenty of reader feedback. My favorite letter was from a man in Michigan who wrote: "You made me sick when you wrote that story about the gay kid in For Better or for Worse. After that, I completely stopped reading your strip... Now that you have seen fit to kill of Farley the dog, I am NEVER going to read your lousy strip again!"

Lawrence's story and the death of Farley brought in an overwhelming flood of letters, but the stories of Sharon Edwards's paraplegia and Gordon Mayes's physical abuse at the hands of his alcoholic father also resulted in deeply emotional responses. Some readers approved of the topics and the way they were handled, some emphatically did not, but is was clear that everyone had been deeply moved on way or another and that the characters in the strip were believably real.

Although I never intended to be a conduit to open discussion about controversial subjects, I'm pleased to know that many of the strips have been used in presentations, parenting articles, books, and teaching aids. All of us face difficult issues in our lives. Death touches us all, sooner or later. Everyone, whether they are willing to admit it or not, has someone in their immediate family or circle of friends who is gay. Most of us know individuals who are disabled and others who are or have been the victims of physical abuse.

Since it is so important for me not to bring a character into the strip unless I can really "live” inside them and see the world as they do, I research my stories carefully, making sure the situations are accurate, possible and fair. I have had the privilege of letting others speak through my characters. If the world is a stage, theirs are the most compelling performances, and their stories deserve to be told!

Also, commentary from Beth Cruikshank, Lynn's sister-in-law.

Beth Cruikshank posted:

My particular role, since the beginning of FBorRFW, has been the unique honor or serving as the main "family veterinarian" to the Pattersons' various mythical pets. This has led to some interesting, if slightly bizarre, discussions with Lynn. the one I remember best went something like this:

"You're going to kill off Farley? Lynn, you can't DO that!"

"I have no choice." The voice on the phone sounded unusually grim. " You know my strip runs in real time. And since you just told me sheepdogs don't usually live past twelve, and Farley is already thirteen-well..."

"Wow!" I contemplated the likely reader reaction with awe. "So how are you going to do it? How on earth do you bump off the family dog in three panels and a punch line, and hope to get away with it?"

"I don't know. Farley is getting older and more feeble these days, so the setup is there. but I can't see the end yet."

"Well, there's one thing I can tell you about the end!" I said, with sudden conviction. "After all the abuse that poor dog has taken from those kids over the years, and the way you've made him the butt and fool of the family, you HAVE to give him back his dignity when he goes. Farley has to die a hero!"

"A hero?" Lynn said, startled. "Farley? Oh, come on! He's old and tired, and besides, everyone knows he's basically pretty dumb. He can't do some brilliant Lassie thing, like smashing through the window of the burning building and turning the combination of the lock with his teeth to rescue little Timmy before the dynamite goes off in the mine!"

"He doesn’t' need to have brains, just a bit of sheepdog instinct!" I said, "It's deep-rooted in them to protect their flocks, you know. Like April, for instance. Farley and April are close-he's bound to be protective of her. have him rescue April in some simple way."

"How?" The skepticism was now tinged with interest. "It has to be believable."

"Well, there's a ravine behind the Pattersons' house, with a creek in it, right? nothing is more of a kid magnet than running water. I've sometimes wondered why the kids never go down there. So have April fall into the creek when it's high and Farley drag her out. Simple, believable, minimum brains required. But definitely strenuous enough to set off a fatal heart attack in the poor old mutt."

"Hmm!"

"It's perfect!" I continued, warming to my theme. "Farley gets to die relatively painlessly, a hero, with dignity. Elly and John are then spared having to make the awful decision to take him on that last gloomy trip to the vet. what could be better?"

There was a lengthy silence.

"I’ll think about it," Lynn said finally.

The subject never arose again, and I soon forgot our conversation. Then I turned to the comics section of the paper one spring day and saw April headed down to the ravine with a toy boat in her hand and Farley and Edgar at her heels. I had proposed the idea frivolously, without much real thought. but as the story unfolded, I found myself wrenched with anxiety for April, and in tears by the conclusion. Lynn's ability to tell a story powerfully and well has never been better illustrated. And beyond a doubt, she gave Farley back his dignity in a most satisfying way in the end. Just as the doctor ordered!

The_Other fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Apr 22, 2024

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I will give Lynn credit for doing what Gasoline Alley (presumably still) steadfastly refuses to.

also I'm extremely here for "TOMORROW: Scarlett drinks five cups of coffee"

Chicken Parmigiana
Sep 12, 2007

Selachian posted:

Invisible Scarlet O'Neil 7/22-24/43



Five cups of any coffee will do that to anyone!

Poil
Mar 17, 2007

Selachian posted:

Rhymes with Orange

:getin: vs :frogout:

pencilhands
Aug 20, 2022

manero
Jan 30, 2006

Comic Strips 2024: minimum brains required

Aces High
Mar 26, 2010

Nah! A little chocolate will do





What is this Dr. Horrible poo poo?!

JethroMcB
Jan 23, 2004

We're normal now.
We love your family.
Add me to the list of people excited to see what five cups of Crazy Coffee™ does to Ms. O'Neil. (But I hope it's more exciting than "Decides to kiss The Ugliest Millionaire")

Good Listener posted:

The gardening team is some of the stupidest poo poo in Kevin and Kell and that's saying something.

Nah man, it's the most logical thing in the world. Once you think about the preponderance of human sports based around our foods and diets, the A-to-B couldn't make more sense.

Aces High posted:

What is this Dr. Horrible poo poo?!

You didn't have to put "Dr." in there.

Cul de Sac




FoxTrot Classix




Rose is Rose


Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Cowslips Warren posted:

goddamn it, Flash keeps hitting it out of the park. it's like loving early Pixar. which scares me too.

They even manage to make recap strips fun by doing it from a different character's perspective each time, it's impressive honestly.

Has the person currently behind it done any other notable work in the past out of curiosity?

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:



Let's not even go into the how pathetic this whole affair is -- WHAT is up with that Neil Gaiman quote there? How pretentious do you have to be to add that into some loser having a fantasy while talking with his ex and his boyfriend that the latter's an ape and only Wilbur can save her and LET'S NOT STOP DAYDREAMING OK??

:psyduck:

Saoshyant fucked around with this message at 18:43 on Apr 21, 2024

hexwren
Feb 27, 2008

JethroMcB posted:

Rose is Rose

god, i still loving hate it

Larryb posted:

They even manage to make recap strips fun by doing it from a different character's perspective each time, it's impressive honestly.

Has the person currently behind it done any other notable work in the past out of curiosity?

the webcomic lavender jack, which is quite good. not exactly notable, but excellently done

Explodingdice
Jun 28, 2023


Larryb posted:

They even manage to make recap strips fun by doing it from a different character's perspective each time, it's impressive honestly.

Has the person currently behind it done any other notable work in the past out of curiosity?

Lavender Jack is well worth a look. I think it's on webtoon and doesn't exist in paper form?

Kennel
May 1, 2008

BAWWW-UNH!
Once again Wilbur makes Mary Worth interesting.

Larryb
Oct 5, 2010

Explodingdice posted:

Lavender Jack is well worth a look. I think it's on webtoon and doesn't exist in paper form?

It is, yes. I'd never heard of it before but assuming the links still work I'll definitely check it out

Saoshyant
Oct 26, 2010

:hmmorks: :orks:


Larryb posted:

It is, yes. I'd never heard of it before but assuming the links still work I'll definitely check it out

This official link?

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Hwurmp
May 20, 2005

Doomykins posted:

THE APE WITH SEX APPEAL

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