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Although it’s not technically possible, it seems very plausible to me that Wilbur is a goon who’s been reading the Invisible Scarlet O’Neil strips posted in this thread in real time. Have we ever seen Dawn’s mother? I have an incredible well of sympathy for anyone who had to be married to Wilbur.
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Giant Ethicist posted:We Are Reproducing D'awww Corto Maltese Blueberry
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I AM GRANDO posted:Although it’s not technically possible, it seems very plausible to me that Wilbur is a goon who’s been reading the Invisible Scarlet O’Neil strips posted in this thread in real time. The existence of Dawn also implies a woman was once willing to sleep with Wilbur in spite of everything
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Esa Ahto Nancy Dustin
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riderchop posted:Compu-toon 1981 comics Dick Tracy Footrot Flats The Lockhorns Computoon: Origins Mexikid Stories
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Kennel posted:
Pluggers are out of shape
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Kennel posted:Nancy Incredible silent punchline.
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Haifisch posted:
Is the conceit of this comic that everyone is as stupid as newspaper spiderman? “I’ll kill you, but only later. Even though there’s no practical difference between killing you now and killing you hours from now. Also, I could have just killed you before you even noticed that I was the assassin.”
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Haifisch posted:The Lockhorns
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Powered Descent posted:Bizarro Ugh. Wives. Aren't they the worst?
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Murdstone posted:Mary Worth
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My Lovely Horse posted:I will give Lynn credit for doing what Gasoline Alley (presumably still) steadfastly refuses to. quote:The strip is still published in newspapers in the 21st century. Walt Wallet is now well over a century old (124, as of February 2024[9]), while Skeezix has become a centenarian. Walt's wife Phyllis, age an estimated 105, died in the April 26, 2004, strip; Walt was left a widower after nearly eight decades of marriage. drat. Edit: The other current characters: quote:Avery Hippocrass fucked around with this message at 21:07 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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Powered Descent posted:Bizarro
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hey, maybe Wilbur and his ex adopted Dawn, okay?
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Amazing.
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We Are Reproducingquote:Haraiso Days quote:
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DMorbid posted:Ah yes, Lois Lane, very well known for her red hair. FWIW, my mom had jet-black hair, and she dyed it chestnut when the gray started coming in. I can’t find eight. Seven, I got. E: my wife gets the email. There’s an inking or scanning error: one of the shadows on the roof edge of the brick building at the far right is supposed to be the fish tail. Thought I was losing my mind PainterofCrap fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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F Minus Mark Trail The Phantom Pooch Cafe Rex Morgan MD Andertoons Apartment 3-G Flash Gordon
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PainterofCrap posted:I can’t find eight. Seven, I got. Any upside-down flying creature counts as the Inverted Bird, so I think the foreground pigeon at top right is the eighth one. Dan Piraro posted:The Bizarro bird is represented upside-down to show the importance of individuality. In fact, the bird often changes its appearance entirely, becoming a parrot, a pterodactyl, or any other kind of upside-down, flying beast. https://www.bizarro.com/secret-symbols
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Hippocrass posted:drat. I remember that when the current creator killed off Phyllis in 2004, he pissed off a lot of elderly readers, which may be why he's afraid to finally let Walt and Skeezix rest. Pogo 10/16-18/52 And Albert kicks out the few remaining shards of the fourth wall. I admit I don't get the "dark-horse-shea" joke. Maybe a pun on Crazy Horse's Sioux name, Tashunka? Archie 3/13-15/50 The Virtue of Vera Valiant 7/10/77 Another debt of $20,000?
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Selachian posted:
If you’ve heard “Jingle Bells,” then you may recognize the line that describes their ride as a “one-horse open shay.” (The song is actually a celebration of Thanksgiving, not Christmas) https://www.britannica.com/technology/one-horse-shay
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Scary Go Round (March 28-30, 2006)
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PainterofCrap posted:If you’ve heard “Jingle Bells,” then you may recognize the line that describes their ride as a “one-horse open shay.” Oh geez, now I get it. The bit in the next panel about "running for a hundred years and a day" is a reference to Oliver Wendell Holmes's poem "The Wonderful One-Hoss Shay". It's about a guy who builds a cart that can't break down because every part is built to be equally strong -- and it works great for a century and a day, and then collapses into a heap of dust as everything breaks at once. Who says comics ain't educational? Selachian fucked around with this message at 23:38 on Apr 21, 2024 |
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PainterofCrap posted:If you’ve heard “Jingle Bells,” then you may recognize the line that describes their ride as a “one-horse open shay.” Jingle Bells is about a sleigh, though, isn't it?
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someone awful. posted:Jingle Bells is about a sleigh, though, isn't it? Ja you are correct. I am wrong. Although one-horse open shays were a thing. Why / how do I know that
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Conan: The Blood Egg Part 2 John Allison's Patreon John Allison's Gumroad store Forward Slash Scare website for Allison's side comics John Allison posted:Steam-driven automata go back a lot further than you think. While the first successful steam train was, of course, Stevenson’s rocket, and the first sentient train was Thomas the Tank Engine, the first recorded use of steam power is recorded in Alexandria around 30BCE. I don’t know when the stories in Conan take place. You’ll have to look that up. Given the Pangaeatic nature of his world, I think it might be a bit earlier.
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Pickles Hagar the Horrible Zits
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The horror of Jeremy Duncan’s feet.
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The_Other posted:Conan: The Blood Egg Part 2 Hyborean age is before writing, or before surviving written records, Allison. Given how much weird stuff is in that world, though, steam power gets a pass.
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It's also explicitly post-Atlantean golden age so the setting has a huge get-out-of-jail-free card for oddities.
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I AM GRANDO posted:Hyborean age is before writing, or before surviving written records, Allison. Given how much weird stuff is in that world, though, steam power gets a pass. They recently excavated a Roman water heater with brass valves controlling the lead pipes.
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the romans live like thousands of years in the future for conan. the timescale on the hyborian age is huge - it's supposed to begin in ~100,000bce with the fall of atlantis and the kull stories, and end somewhere around 2,000bce as the indo-iranian peoples emerge in archaeological history. that ancient roman water heater is further away from conan than we are to it.
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Selachian posted:I remember that when the current creator killed off Phyllis in 2004, he pissed off a lot of elderly readers, which may be why he's afraid to finally let Walt and Skeezix rest. He could just not use them? It's not like their names are in the title of the strip. Just Barney Google them! Krazy Kat(January 12, 1919) Blind Pig being an early slang term for a speakeasy. Gasoline Alley(December 7, 1919) Little Nemo(June 7, 1908) This sucks, but at least, in about a month, the imp character will be going away for a bit again, and we'll be getting a few of the more iconic strips. Anyway, I have a bit of news, as I am going to be adding 4 new strips, Well more three strips and a feature. These follow two themes; Immigrants, and Early works by women. Bringing up Father Created by the son of Irish immigrants, George McManus, Bringing up Father follows Maggie and Jiggs, an Irish couple who win a million dollar sweepstakes and moves to New York. Much of the conflict in the strips concerns class and what it means to move from working and middle class to upper class. Maggie representing the steriotype of the "Lace-curtain Irish" and Jiggs the "Shanty Irish". Jiggs seeks to keep up with his working class upbringing and trying to interact with American society without losing hes Irish identity, and Maggie trying to push him to assimilate into mainstream upper class American society. The comic ran from January 2, 1913, to May 28, 2000, making it one of the longest running American newspaper strips. The book I'm sourcing the early strip from is spotty at best, rarely having more than two consecutive days of strips, but is till better than trying to get the first couple of years from Newspaers.com. By October 1914, the paper I'm sourcing most of the strips I'm posting picks it up, so it'll be more consistent then. Abie the Agent Harry Hershfeld was an early pioneer of newspaper comics, landing his first strip, 'Homeless Hector', in the Chicago Daily News in 1899 at the age of 14. Starting in 1910, Hershfeld began drawing 'Deperate Desmond', an early adventure/suspense strip, notably featuring a Yiddish character. Beginning in 1914, he began 'Abie the Agent', featuring the first Jewish protagonist in an American comic strip. Abraham 'Abie' Kabibble, a used car salesman, was designed as a rebuttal of many common Jewish stereotypes of the time, being fairly successful middle class immigrant. As the stip progressed, Abie would gradually lose much of his Yiddish character, assimilating into American culture, and promoting the acceptance of Jews in America, but often at the cost of depicting other other ethnicities negatively. After a contract dispute in 1932with the International Feature Service, which syndicated the strip, it would go on hiatus until 1935, when the strip moved to King Features, which would run the strip until 1940. "Cap" Stubbs and Tippie Frances Edwina Dumm, professionally known as simply Edwina, was one of the first women to have a daily strip published, as well as the first full time editorial cartoonist in an American paper. Her most successful strip, about a boy, Joseph "Cap" Stubbs, and his dog, Tippie, began in 1918. The dating of the strip is a bit difficult. Wikipedia insists it started on August 21st, based on an advertisement on that date in a paper that began running the strip the following week, but the earliest strip I've found is from March 4, and I'm still not sure if it's the first strip. The strip ran until 1965. And finally: Nell Brinkley Stretching the definition of cartoonist a bit, Nell Brinkley is one of the most important of the early women of the newspaper. Discovered in 1907 by William Randolph Hearst, Brinkley moved from Denver to Brooklyn, where she began drawing large, highly detailed illustrations accompanied with some prose commentary. These became so popular that women began emulating her styles, and lead to the downfall of the 'Gibson Girl' as a major style touchstone. Her commentary, written in the pop culture style of the time, often centred on descriptions of "relationships between boy and girl—man and woman—Bettys and Billies." Her art would spawn what came to be called the 'Brinkley Girl', generally a young working woman, wearing lacy dresses, hair in curls, and engaged in activities that pushed the boundaries of the general view of women's activities at the time, became a feminist icon, And would be one of the first works to link young, attractive women with the concept of suffrage. Brinkley would stat losing popularity by 1935, as photograph became more prevalent in newspapers and magazines. Because of the accompanying text requiring an image to text program, which still need babysitting, I' going to posting Nell's work on Sundays, maybe Saturdays as well, So here's the earliest illustration I could find: (March 5, 1908) quote:JUST THE BETTY FOR BILLY TO MARRY It's all like this really. Enjoy!
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The_Other posted:So I was waiting for this story to end before posting this; in Suddenly silver: Celebrating 25 Years of For Better or For Worse there are several commentaries by Lynn and her family on the strip, with two parts that reference the death of Farley. Apologies in advance for the walls of text. Thank you for posting these. They're certainly...illuminating, and there is so much to unpack here. Lynn Johnston posted:Charles Schulz was now one of my closet friends and confidants in the business. When I told him I had to do away with Farley, he was genuinely furious. I explained that I had no choice. Since the strip developed in real time, the dog was much older than he should be, and to allow him to stay in the strip would be contrary to everything I was doing. When you're working in real time, you have to deal with life spans! He was angry nonetheless, admonishing my decision. He threatened to have Snoopy hit by a truck at the same time and taken to the hospital. "Then nobody will care about your stupid story," he said. He was serious, so when the time came to write the series, I didn't tell him. For someone who claims they're close friends with Schulz, Lynn's choice of words here paints him in an unflattering light. He wasn't disapproving, he was 'genuinely furious.' He wasn't frustrated with the plans for Farley, he 'threatened to steal the spotlight from me by having Snoopy get hit by a truck.' She can't help but paint herself as a hapless victim of circumstance with everyone out to get her, and not a writer who's making a dumb decision. Lynn Johnston posted:The episode came as a surprise-and he never forgave me. Rather, he never forgave April for falling into the river in the first place! Like some readers, there are cartoonists who take these characters far too seriously. No surprises Charles blamed April here, given how Lynn framed the topic. I've mentioned how April's first words after being rescued was to apologize and take all the blame, but even that big Sunday strip goes on about how April feels guilty for causing Farley's death. The parents just aren't taking culpability for their neglect being the root cause of this accident. You can't just say "man, people sure to take my strip so seriously" when you've placed a huge lightning rod directly on the child so she receives all the readers' hate. Lynn Johnston posted:Although I never intended to be a conduit to open discussion about controversial subjects, I'm pleased to know that many of the strips have been used in presentations, parenting articles, books, and teaching aids. All of us face difficult issues in our lives. Death touches us all, sooner or later. Everyone, whether they are willing to admit it or not, has someone in their immediate family or circle of friends who is gay. Most of us know individuals who are disabled and others who are or have been the victims of physical abuse. All I have to say is how weird it is that she lumps having a gay family member/friend' or knowing someone with a disability as part of 'difficult issues in our lives.' It makes me wonder when this commentary was even written. Beth Cruikshank posted:"I have no choice." The voice on the phone sounded unusually grim. " You know my strip runs in real time. And since you just told me sheepdogs don't usually live past twelve, and Farley is already thirteen-well..." This passage is just really finny to me, imagining Lynn being all grim-faced and talking about how the dog has to go. She also talks about how she has no choice but to kill the dog, as if the strip is twisting her arm. She's the strip's writer, so it's her prerogative if she wants to keep Farley around forever as a mascot, realism be damned. Beth Cruikshank posted:"Wow!" I contemplated the likely reader reaction with awe. "So how are you going to do it? How on earth do you bump off the family dog in three panels and a punch line, and hope to get away with it?" The first thing I notice is how Lynn and her sister-in-law talk about killing Farley off in 'three panels and a punchline' as if there's an expectation to treat Farley as a gag. Even Lynn talks about Farley as if he's huge joke who can't be as brilliant as Lassie. I almost wish they made it a gag strip, because that probably would've been far less stupid than what we got lmao. The other thing is how the sister-in-law's comment about how those drat kids have abused the dog all these years and how he deserves to have his dignity returned. It's such a lovely thing to say about the fictionalized version of someone's children. Or maybe that's a casual observation based on how the comic portrays the kids? If even the sister-in-law picks up how the strip presents the kids in a negative light, I can only imagine how uncomfortable it is for Lynn's actual kids to read about their comic counterparts. Again, thanks for posting this commentary. It's just a fascinating look into this bizarre plotline.
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its so funny she couldnt imagine an elderly dog
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...was coming home to just find him dead on the floor not an option?
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I only read FBoFW periodically when I was a kid, I think I saw the strip, but didn't understand the context. I remember when the strip was winding down and thinking "Jesus Christ, there's nothing wrong with being single if the alternative is being with a loving loser like Anthony". Wasn't there some big kerfuffle from her kids at some point about having a character die that was based off of a family friend or something?
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the woman the son marries was based off his real friend and who died in a car accident somewhat depicted in the comic, the son was gay irl! its hosed!
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Was Farley even a prominent part of the comic? From what I remember and from what I've seen posted here, the dog only got the occasional Sunday strip to himself. I don't recall any story arcs about Farley apart from the strips where he gets with the neighbors' dog and sires his replacement. On that note, it's funny how the family's new dog looks so much like the old one. If you skipped reading the comic for a month or so you might not even be aware that anything tragic had happened. "He's dead, but don't worry. They have a spare." Kid Fenris fucked around with this message at 13:08 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Retail The Dinette Set Popcom Also, here are these scripts, since I just had to go digging through the last seven threads to find them. I'm having to post them as a screencap, since trying to post with the quoted text leads to a notice that I've been blocked by SA's automated security service. Fucky, but big thanks to Elysiume for compiling these back in the day!
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