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reminds me of this classic: 
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Apr 22, 2024 18:25
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American Voting has no correlation with policy whatsoever. This is a mathematically measurable truth. I have no way to act on this truth besides encouraging [redacted] or biting the literal bullet and [redacted] myself
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Apr 22, 2024 18:25
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if biden locked her up in february 2021 as a bipartisan gesture of goodwill he'd be cruising to re-election right now.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:25
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This is so dumb I think she's got to be trolling. But nah she is that dumb.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:27
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I'll vote for the Greens if they nominate someone who isn't Jill Stein. VVV At 70, RFK Jr. represents the youth wing of the Party. Halloween Jack has issued a correction as of 18:32 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 18:27
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most polls have showed that it's young democrat-leaning voters attracted to rfk; you'll know that this one poll's showing becomes the norm when democrats back off their ballot challenges & branding efforts.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:29
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Halloween Jack posted:I'll vote for the Greens if they nominate someone who isn't Jill Stein. what do you have against the good doctor stein? she managed to fleece democrats after her loss in 2016 and for that, if for no other reason, she's vote-worthy imo.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:31
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Willa Rogers posted:reminds me of this classic: Lol, that hypothetical lack of insurance cumulative death total for 2021 is less than just the uninsured COVID deaths in 2021 alone.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:32
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This is what I expected. As a Democrat and a Kennedy, RFK could easily run on a platform that pulls more votes from Biden, like the Green Party does. But his campaign is about his woowoo anti-vaccine crystal magic medical beliefs, and only that and nothing else, and almost all those people became Trump voters
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Apr 22, 2024 18:33
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VitalSigns posted:This is what I expected. Nah; that's just the libs' branding of him. I don't think he's sincere about all of this (especially about ending wars bc he's a stone zionist) but his platform is designed to appeal to disenchanted democrats far more than never-trumpers.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:36
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Oh my God lmao
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Apr 22, 2024 18:42
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politics is like a bus ride,
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Apr 22, 2024 18:43
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gradenko_2000 posted:https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1781120448186462407 https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1782443022644400185
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Apr 22, 2024 18:43
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Rfk is for when you just getting enough dead kids from Israel and need to get measles and polio to kill even more.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:44
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Willa Rogers posted:Nah; that's just the libs' branding of him. Ok maybe it's just what the media shows but I only see him talk about his stupid medical nonsense. Does he talk about the other stuff much, or is this like Hillary yelling Trump bad for six months while her supporters insist that her campaign is about so much more which you'd know if you'd only read her website
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Apr 22, 2024 18:47
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drat, someone should tell the dnc about rfk hurting trump more than biden.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:49
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I can't loving wait for Trump to be elected and then literally the day after inauguration every lib politician, media figure, and pundit immediately start calling it "Trump's genocide".
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Apr 22, 2024 18:49
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it's more likely trump is labeled antisemitic for ending the war
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Apr 22, 2024 18:52
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Willa Rogers posted:drat, someone should tell the dnc about rfk hurting trump more than biden. I don't think they care, I think they consider 3rd parties a much bigger threat to their power than Trump. Their only argument for voting for them is they're the only alternative to Republicans so they absolutely cannot abide the existence of another alternative. And they're happy to trade power back and forth with their good friends in the Republican party. They mostly agree with them anyway and as long as the duopoly exists their power is maintained.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:52
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I wonder if Hillary Clinton ever read her website. I bet she just hired some staffer to write something and said "uh-uh" when he emailed it for her approval, then went back to interviewing Donald Duck mascots to hold "Trump ducks his taxes" signs
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Apr 22, 2024 18:57
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VitalSigns posted:Ok maybe it's just what the media shows but I only see him talk about his stupid medical nonsense. I don't watch any of his stuff (I'm an ableist who's weirded out by his vocal disability) but I would caution you against going by "what the media show" bc it's in both parties' interests to brand him as an antivax nutter & ignore his stated platform. I'm not voting for him but he's pulling respectable numbers in polling, which merits political junkies like us to find out why, imo. Younger people aren't antivax yet a lot of them are drawn to him, and I've been baffled as to why. I think a lot of it has to do with "a pox on both their houses" sentiment, unsurprisingly, and he's definitely (and wisely) exploiting that sentiment. This was his first campaign ad six months ago.
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Apr 22, 2024 18:59
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Do first ladies get state funerals or just their husbands?
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Apr 22, 2024 19:00
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should be easy enough to find out given rosalynn's recent death.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:01
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't watch any of his stuff (I'm an ableist who's weirded out by his vocal disability) but I would caution you against going by "what the media show" bc it's in both parties' interests to brand him as an antivax nutter & ignore his stated platform. Yeah that's true it could just be the media only reporting the stupid stuff he says, but they wouldn't have so much material if he didn't talk about it a lot, also he doubled down on it with his VP pick instead of trying to broaden his message so yeah I was exaggerating for comic effect when I said his campaign is about his dumb magic beliefs and nothing else, but I probably wasn't exaggerating all that much. I mean, I think there's a reason he takes more support from Trump. quote:Younger people aren't antivax yet a lot of them are drawn to him, and I've been baffled as to why. Most young people aren't antivax but most young people aren't voting for RFK either, so the question would be which young people are supporting him and why VitalSigns has issued a correction as of 19:07 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 19:03
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't watch any of his stuff (I'm an ableist who's weirded out by his vocal disability) but I would caution you against going by "what the media show" bc it's in both parties' interests to brand him as an antivax nutter & ignore his stated platform. He was the chairman of Children's Health Defense who explicitly believed that vaccines cause autism.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:04
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One of these days it's gonna be her turn again (to lose).
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Apr 22, 2024 19:06
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Gumball Gumption posted:He was the chairman of Children's Health Defense who explicitly believed that vaccines cause autism. don’t let perfect be the enemy of good
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Apr 22, 2024 19:11
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VitalSigns posted:I mean, I think there's a reason he takes more support from Trump. Only in 2 surveys out of the last dozen or so. Meanwhile, democrats keep trying to brand him as a maga plant, instead of painting his candidacy like he's a threat to biden, not trump. quote:Right, but which young people. As I said, step back from the media/lib echo chamber & look beyond the antivax: Young people are very much in the "pox on both their houses" camp & less inclined to, say, buy into the Save Our Democracy, Especially From the Russkies bullshit. We'd need some frank luntz-style focus groups to find out why, and which, young people are attracted to kennedy but everyone (including me) thought from the jump it'd be low-info boomer libs supporting him out of kennedy nostalgia and the polling really hasn't showed that. Willa Rogers has issued a correction as of 19:22 on Apr 22, 2024 |
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Apr 22, 2024 19:16
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Gumball Gumption posted:He was the chairman of Children's Health Defense who explicitly believed that vaccines cause autism. yes, we know, bc libs won't stfu about it. but as his platform page as well as polling shows, he's definitely appealing on the basis of other reasons, too. I'm not making the argument that he's not anti-vax; he is. I'm making the argument to look beyond how libs have branded him & find out where his support is coming from. if it were simply from anti-vax never-trumpers the democrats wouldn't be so intent on knocking him off ballots, nor that invested in their branding of him. why would the trump anti-vax crowd choose rfk over trump? It doesn't make sense.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:20
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Willa Rogers posted:I don't watch any of his stuff (I'm an ableist who's weirded out by his vocal disability) but I would caution you against going by "what the media show" bc it's in both parties' interests to brand him as an antivax nutter & ignore his stated platform. yeah, there's an easy explanation for why he's pulling respectable numbers: both main party candidates are historically unpopular, and young people are more likely than old people to react to that by signaling their displeasure interesting that we're getting our first british style election: not only does the wider population despise both candidates, the party hierarchy also despises them
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Apr 22, 2024 19:23
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I'm old enough to remember perot's 1992 campaign, which echoed a lot of the themes of this year's election.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:25
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It would be very funny if Trump chose RFK Jr. as Vice President.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:25
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being antivax isn't a dealbreaker. not sure it ever was. the current vice president is antivax. it doesnt matter.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:26
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Willa Rogers posted:I'm old enough to remember perot's 1992 campaign, which echoed a lot of the themes of this year's election. Unironically I think perot winning(or at least being a clear second) would have changed history for the better. Despite all his ideas being poo poo
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Apr 22, 2024 19:28
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Is the gop even running anti-rfk ads or trying to brand him as a lib? His stated platform (other than the anti-vax stuff) would seem to make it easy for them to do, but I haven't seen them funding ratfucking campaigns against him, and till these latest polls came along the democrats kept pointing out the maga millionaire who was pouring money into rfk's campaign. The hit dogs that I've seen holler about rfk are all democrats.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:28
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Willa Rogers posted:Is the gop even running anti-rfk ads or trying to brand him as a lib? His stated platform (other than the anti-vax stuff) would seem to make it easy for them to do, but I haven't seen them funding ratfucking campaigns against him, and till these latest polls came along the democrats kept pointing out the maga millionaire who was pouring money into rfk's campaign. libs have been making articles in various publications that show RFK Jr. hurts Trump more than Biden. So they're very very desperate to make him a thing, you're right.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:29
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Trump has called him a left wing radical compared to Joe
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Apr 22, 2024 19:30
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I ran into someone whose response to "more people died of covid under Biden than trump" was "the deaths under Trump were preventable" 
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Apr 22, 2024 19:30
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quote:Sydin, Bernie Sanders here.
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Apr 22, 2024 19:31
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Gumball Gumption posted:Trump has called him a left wing radical compared to Joe biden is extremely conservative so this tracks
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Apr 22, 2024 19:31
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