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Libluini
May 18, 2012

I gravitated towards the Greens, eventually even joining the party itself.

The Linke is a party I grudgingly accept exists, but I've learned enough about DDR-history I can't bring myself to trust a party that was once the SED, a party leading the corrupt state apparatus ...
Grimey Drawer

Crain posted:

You're right in the sense that yes, it's all made up from a skeptics point of view. But the primary audience for this stuff isn't skeptics, it's believers. If you're marketing to believers you have to conform to certain tropes and expectations. You see this all the time, maybe without realizing it: The random "tools" they use to "detect" ghosts, the kind of locations, how the ghosts behave, what they can and can't do, etc. That is the easy content however. You just go to an "established" haunted house and film, do the rituals with the emf readers and poo poo, and react to a shadow or comment on how the room just got cold. And the audience both wants to see that, and is already bored by it. Like the Winchester House; you basically have to eventually film there, but once you do you're done and you have to find a way to make it interesting. Just like true crime, ghost content believers want the tension of an actual person who actually died to make it interesting to them. That's where you start getting the bleed over between the two eventually, and the really gross content, like "psychics" or hunters approaching real people who have lost loved ones and trying to "contact" them from beyond. You can still make that up, but people will look up the people involved to see if it was real and if it isn't, they'll turn on you and you're done.

Making your own bespoke content for ghosts is just working in fiction (yes it all is, but now you're just straight up committing to it, at which point, imo, just make short films). You're basically planning a full short film shoot and have to come up with what the story line will be, maybe set up props to get a shot of the "ghost" or whatever. Or just do the lame easy kinda footage like we're seeing now of people just going out into national park land and either editing in an animal sound or waiting for one to happen then screaming SKINWALKER! and being scared.

I recognize this is 100% a pointless and stupid distinction to make.

That was the most annoying part of the show after a few seasons. You were basically just watched for the low and middle price points because the "high end" poo poo was always a lame "I'm chef rear end in a top hat! Here'a diamond I smeared with pizza sauce, truffle, gold, and a meerkats fart that I call pizza!" kinda dish that existed only for wealthy shitheads to show off how they could afford to buy it. None of it was ever good.

We're talking past each other, my argument is that it's the ghosthunters that are the problem, because they're lame and stupid, you're saying that's the ghosthunting itself that's the problem. But it isn't! If someone goes through all that work, they'd make awesome content, and the rubes would never need to know!

Now that I think of it, if you do the same thing with truecrime, isn't that just making horror short films and pretending they're real? :allears:

I take it back. If done entirely by fiction, both truecrime and ghosthunting are fine. But people should be forbidden by threat of execution by anvils from involving real people and history in this poo poo. :colbert:

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The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

resetera's had multiple minority poster exoduses leaving only the whitest liberals imaginable. right now they're having a palestinian poster exodus because they banned a poster from palestine for complaining about the new york times. which for some reason the administration decided was an alt-right thing to do. gotta protect famous left wing periodical 'the new york times'

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum

mycatscrimes posted:

Apparently the Buzzfeed Unsolved guys are trying to start a streaming service for their youtube shows. I don't see this going well for them, I like Mystery Files and Puppet History, but I don't "6 dollars a month just for that" like them.

update: oh poo poo oh gently caress whoops it's not a paywall it's a time delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFYULNTznI

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

The 7th Guest posted:

resetera's had multiple minority poster exoduses leaving only the whitest liberals imaginable. right now they're having a palestinian poster exodus because they banned a poster from palestine for complaining about the new york times. which for some reason the administration decided was an alt-right thing to do. gotta protect famous left wing periodical 'the new york times'

its because donald trump called the new york times the failing new york times many times making the new york times good to liberals

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Not hearing about giant channels until they gently caress up is pretty funny. Never heard these guys until this like I'd never heard of the Try Guys until one of them banged an employee.

Will never understand people not being content with being successful youtubers and just make a living doing that. Gotta hire two dozen people with a big office and be a real media entity.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

lol that resetera thread about the streamer who beat elden ring with one hand that had to be locked because posters starting calling the streamer ablest against handicapped people for some reason

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Speaking of niche topics, I think the mystery/horror/dark internet content creators have really tapped out on stuff to cover, and have resorted to doing airplane disaster stuff.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

you see, it was ablest against handicapped people because they were showing off and making them look bad

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Groovelord Neato posted:

Not hearing about giant channels until they gently caress up is pretty funny. Never heard these guys until this like I'd never heard of the Try Guys until one of them banged an employee.

Will never understand people not being content with being successful youtubers and just make a living doing that. Gotta hire two dozen people with a big office and be a real media entity.

Oh wait those guys aren’t the Try Guys?

HolePisser1982
Nov 3, 2002


16-bit Butt-Head posted:

lol that resetera thread about the streamer who beat elden ring with one hand that had to be locked because posters starting calling the streamer ablest against handicapped people for some reason

lol also when a like 8 year old kid beat bloodborne

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS

Groovelord Neato posted:

Not hearing about giant channels until they gently caress up is pretty funny. Never heard these guys until this like I'd never heard of the Try Guys until one of them banged an employee.

Will never understand people not being content with being successful youtubers and just make a living doing that. Gotta hire two dozen people with a big office and be a real media entity.

Let's not forget that loving Lowtax rented an office to run SA from. For some reason.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

HolePisser1982 posted:

lol also when a like 8 year old kid beat bloodborne

lol didnt know about this

duck trucker
Oct 14, 2017

YOSPOS

Libluini posted:

I disagree, since ghosts are fiction. A truecrimer can't make more material without killing more people themselves, but a ghosthunter can just make poo poo up to create more content.

It's even less disrespectful than hunting "real" ghosts, since no real people need to be involved. Win-win!

I wish I could find it but this reminded me of a video I saw about some guy who made a series of paranormal videos I believe about "black-eyed children" appearing at his house in the middle of the night. Caught on doorbell cameras and the like.

He eventually revealed it was a hoax and thought people would find the little "narrative" he made entertaining and give him props for his effort.

People were loving PISSED and doxxing him and just going out of their way to let the world know he's a "dirty loving liar". I wanna say he had to move and change all his information cause of the hate he got. Guy did not realize that a lot of people don't watch paranormal videos for entertainment, but instead for validation.

CullenDaGaDee
Aug 20, 2023

I got the will to drive myself sleepless

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

lol that resetera thread about the streamer who beat elden ring with one hand that had to be locked because posters starting calling the streamer ablest against handicapped people for some reason

It would be really funny if it was halfcoordinated who did the run, since he legitimately only has one usable hand due to a medical condition.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

it was illegal to call forspoken a bad game on resetera because the main character was a black woman lol

Two mid open world games with action RPG elements coming out back-to-back (Hogwarts Legacy and Forspoken) and parallel and opposite ways Resetera reacted to them was some pretty pristine self-absorbed corporate liberal behavior.

John Murdoch
May 19, 2009

I can tune a fish.

Fil5000 posted:

Let's not forget that loving Lowtax rented an office to run SA from. For some reason.

I dunno that one makes sense to me. Since I'm pretty sure it was just a place to store unsold SA merch and act as a clubhouse for him.

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Nuns with Guns posted:

Two mid open world games with action RPG elements coming out back-to-back (Hogwarts Legacy and Forspoken) and parallel and opposite ways Resetera reacted to them was some pretty pristine self-absorbed corporate liberal behavior.

it was some of the most insufferable gamer discourse i have ever seen but it led to many funny posts

Terrible Opinions
Oct 18, 2013



Didn't it lead to multiple people getting permabanned who otherwise only posted in the Star Citizen thread?

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem
The Hogwarts Legacy thread in Games was like 90% trolling 10% complaining about how nobody is talking about the game (while not talking about the game)

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Terrible Opinions posted:

Didn't it lead to multiple people getting permabanned who otherwise only posted in the Star Citizen thread?

they got probed then multiple star citizen posters freaked out lol

The 7th Guest
Dec 17, 2003

Terrible Opinions posted:

Didn't it lead to multiple people getting permabanned who otherwise only posted in the Star Citizen thread?
yea they posted in the star citizen thread about how everyone needs to play hogwarts, and then when people were like "uhhh" they then went on a screed and got banned, and then others went "I STAND WITH THAT DIPSHIT" and they got banned too

but remember

star citizen forum had derek smart as a moderator

it wasn't our best and brightest to begin with

pentyne
Nov 7, 2012

Nuns with Guns posted:

Two mid open world games with action RPG elements coming out back-to-back (Hogwarts Legacy and Forspoken) and parallel and opposite ways Resetera reacted to them was some pretty pristine self-absorbed corporate liberal behavior.

it was amazing because tons of people who can't even spell Rowling just wanted to run around playing magic pew-pew and were getting screamed at online for loving nazis

meanwhile Forspoken was a soulless, empty game written by a marketing committee and seemed to exist solely to show off how woke the developers were for featuring a black woman as the main character and the people who pointed this out were calling racist hate mongers.

The 7th Guest posted:

yea they posted in the star citizen thread about how everyone needs to play hogwarts, and then when people were like "uhhh" they then went on a screed and got banned, and then others went "I STAND WITH THAT DIPSHIT" and they got banned too

2 different people tried to use the "well as a woman" argument and then 3-4 others started ranting about free speech and how being called a transphobe is more likely to turn someone into a real transphobe

The MSJ
May 17, 2010

duck trucker posted:

I wish I could find it but this reminded me of a video I saw about some guy who made a series of paranormal videos I believe about "black-eyed children" appearing at his house in the middle of the night. Caught on doorbell cameras and the like.

He eventually revealed it was a hoax and thought people would find the little "narrative" he made entertaining and give him props for his effort.

People were loving PISSED and doxxing him and just going out of their way to let the world know he's a "dirty loving liar". I wanna say he had to move and change all his information cause of the hate he got. Guy did not realize that a lot of people don't watch paranormal videos for entertainment, but instead for validation.

Did he at least remember that the kids like Mortal Kombat? (I need to see his videos I love this kind of horror)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lqfXej30Zzw

Snowglobe of Doom
Mar 30, 2012

sucks to be right

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

update: oh poo poo oh gently caress whoops it's not a paywall it's a time delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFYULNTznI

LOL

Also all their patreons are now getting free subscriber membership, and if they already subscribed they can get a refund

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

everyone was so focused on hating hogwarts legacy without looking at it that they didnt notice the funny parts like the jewish caricature race practicing blood libel and using golems

mycot
Oct 23, 2014

"It's okay. There are other Terminators! Just give us this one!"
Hell Gem

16-bit Butt-Head posted:

everyone was so focused on hating hogwarts legacy without looking at it that they didnt notice the funny parts like the jewish caricature race practicing blood libel and using golems
I remember the trans NPC named Sirona Ryan because of this

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

great lets start the deranged hogwarts discourse right back up again

mycatscrimes
Jan 2, 2020

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

update: oh poo poo oh gently caress whoops it's not a paywall it's a time delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFYULNTznI

This is either a furious backtrack or they are the worst communicators in the world. Lmao either way.

Tbh I've seen people say the real issue is they've hired like they are a TV show with a TV budget and can't or won't fire any of their friends and yeah, that seems like an issue for them financially. The solution probably involves not having 15 people in the credits of a Minecraft playthrough video though, not starting a streaming service.

Crain
Jun 27, 2007

I had a beer once with Stephen Miller and now I like him.

I also tried to ban someone from a Discord for pointing out what an unrelenting shithead I am! I'm even dumb enough to think it worked!

Libluini posted:

We're talking past each other, my argument is that it's the ghosthunters that are the problem, because they're lame and stupid, you're saying that's the ghosthunting itself that's the problem. But it isn't! If someone goes through all that work, they'd make awesome content, and the rubes would never need to know!

Now that I think of it, if you do the same thing with truecrime, isn't that just making horror short films and pretending they're real? :allears:

I take it back. If done entirely by fiction, both truecrime and ghosthunting are fine. But people should be forbidden by threat of execution by anvils from involving real people and history in this poo poo. :colbert:

Agreed. 100%.

Ursine Catastrophe posted:

update: oh poo poo oh gently caress whoops it's not a paywall it's a time delay
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3iFYULNTznI


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsqmU3v0hVA


Easiest prediction in the world though.

Nuns with Guns
Jul 23, 2010

It's fine.
Don't worry about it.

pentyne posted:

it was amazing because tons of people who can't even spell Rowling just wanted to run around playing magic pew-pew and were getting screamed at online for loving nazis

meanwhile Forspoken was a soulless, empty game written by a marketing committee and seemed to exist solely to show off how woke the developers were for featuring a black woman as the main character and the people who pointed this out were calling racist hate mongers.

2 different people tried to use the "well as a woman" argument and then 3-4 others started ranting about free speech and how being called a transphobe is more likely to turn someone into a real transphobe

To be fair, both games were very corporate and did a lot of weak diversity hand waving. But Forspoken had a bunch of idiots fixated on the cringey quips. So things like how the writers were primarily white, and they had at most some BIPOC intern "consultants" give feedback on the game, slid through the cracks. The whole thing was shallow posturing, like the full ban on Hogwarts Legacy while people spotted some of the ResetEra mod team actively playing that game on Steam.

Annointed
Mar 2, 2013

Why do people not set their profiles to private?

Sydin
Oct 29, 2011

Another spring commute
Didn't somebody set up a website where you could type people's twitch handles in and it would scrape their history to tell you if the ever streamed the game so you knew who were the bad gamers who should be canceled?

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

Nuns with Guns posted:

The whole thing was shallow posturing, like the full ban on Hogwarts Legacy while people spotted some of the ResetEra mod team actively playing that game on Steam.

lol ftw.

Fil5000
Jun 23, 2003

HOLD ON GUYS I'M POSTING ABOUT INTERNET ROBOTS
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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

i think you can now hide specific games in your library so no one can see you playing the porn games on steam

16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

and if you do that your a coward

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sleng Teng posted:

I think about this one a lot
like with a lot of things on resetera they started with a fair point (its lame theres playable black characters in smash brothers) and went utterly insane with it. like saying sakurai was a racist for not putting the black dude from bayonetta in as a playable character

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

Sydin posted:

Didn't somebody set up a website where you could type people's twitch handles in and it would scrape their history to tell you if the ever streamed the game so you knew who were the bad gamers who should be canceled?
see that site was kind of lame but otoh people were acting like 'saying if this streamer ever streamed hogwarts legacy' was literal irl doxxing and death threats. just the dumbest posts all around

Endorph
Jul 22, 2009

the hogwarts legacy drama was amazing because everyone forgot that game existed two weeks after it came out so a bunch of people just went insane for literally no reason. a big ff14 streamer said she HAD TO STREAM IT and compared people politely asking her not to to the war in ukraine and said she would not be cancelled by 'people trying to control women,' streamed it for two hours once, then never mentioned it again, losing like 50% of her viewerbase in the process. ftw

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16-bit Butt-Head
Dec 25, 2014

i can see some crazy people sending death threats and doxxing over streaming the hogwarts game people have done it for less still... lol at the drama

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