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nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Defiance Industries posted:

Or engaging, or clever, or intriguing

Yeah, I realized half a second too late "you are talking about Ernest Cline". That's like trying to get a lead pyramid to roll down hill. A better metaphor than I bet anything Ernie's ever written or will write :v:

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jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire
Them reading Cline just feels nice and warm in a way that Artemis made me feel.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I think what really set the tone for me with Cline was not the two page spread of references and how he'd watched all of The Simpsons and Voltron and read Stephen King and whatever but when Wade said " Our arguments were often high in entertainment value." Yeah, citation needed there.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
This episode actually made me consider for the first time that Cline might have been a big fan of MST3K and I wonder if he knows how much Mike loathes his work.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 09:56 on Apr 21, 2024

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Mordja posted:

This episode actually made me consider for the first time that Cline actually might have been a big fan of MST3K and I wonder if he knows how much Mike makes fun of his books.

I hope so.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Mordja posted:

This episode actually made me consider for the first time that Cline might have been a big fan of MST3K and I wonder if he knows how much Mike loathes his work.

One wonders how much self-awareness one can possess when they bought a DeLorean and put a Ghostbuster logo on the side.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Mordja posted:

This episode actually made me consider for the first time that Cline might have been a big fan of MST3K and I wonder if he knows how much Mike loathes his work.

Had the exact same thought in the exact same place listening to that episode. Just "lol, I wonder if Cline knows".

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Who is this book for? It's way too childishly written for the YA market it purports to be targeted towards, but it also deals with the loss of family to illness and war that I imagine would put off a younger audience. Then there's the fact that it's set in the 80s and has all the throwaway references we've grown to expect, and what 9-15 year-old would give a poo poo about that?

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
It feels like Cline's trying to replicate one of those 60s/70s-era childrens' novels he grew up reading in school where Some Adult poo poo happens in between wholesome animal-centric adventures like Owls in the Family, Watership Down, Redwall, The Rats of NIHM, etc. It is deffo one those "guy in his 50s writing the kind of book he read as a child 40 years later for an audience of 1" things.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
cline never matured past the age of 12. he's a nerd in the most pejorative sense, where his entire worldview is defined by the media he consumes. fucker's even starting his own metaverse

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

https://twitter.com/372Pages/status/1782796379246457027

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

BRANDS BRANDS BRANDS BRANDS 1980s REFERENCE BRANDS BRANDS BRANDS how can you tell this is an Ernest Cline novel?

I am happy to say I overestimated Cline. I legit thought this was him trying something completely out of his wheelhouse to break out of his self-made box, but NOOOOOOPE :newlol:

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Apr 23, 2024

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I don't know who else subscribes to the patreon but the Encyclopedia Brown stuff is pretty funny and and a good way to feel smarter than Mike.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
Cline going on an in-character rant about how cool and awesome and friendly and you should totally rub your face all over them about bats post-COVID is a tiny bit :stare:, just saying

Yeah I get that the book is set in the 80s, but still, a single bat killed 7 million people my guy.

nine-gear crow fucked around with this message at 08:50 on May 10, 2024

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
Cline just can't help himself. :negative:

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
He lasted 6 chapters, the restraint was admirable. The editors just couldn't hold him back. Cline gotta Cline. I am enjoying the tales of the 9 year old listener who is also thinks Cline is a hack.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
I'm actually weirdly impressed at how Cline it got so quickly too. It was like a dam bursting and it all just came spilling out at once.

The more I hear of this book, the less confident I am that this was Cline trying to break out of his box and failing miserably, and more like someone dared him to try and write the most un-Cline novel he could and gave him the writing prompt "a story about a girl and some bats in rural Texas" just to see how far he could get before he gave in and dragged all his terrible tropes out of the tickle trunk. Like how Jim Butcher wrote the Codex Alera series because someone dared him to write a Pokemon fanfic set in ancient Rome.

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
I'm wondering if, now that his Spielberg credit has been spent, Cline is trying to court Richard Linklater for a Bat City movie with his inclusion. Maybe he's just paying tribute to something he loves, which is all he knows how to do of course, but the inclusion of a living director in his book just seems extra pathetic.

Sourdough Sam fucked around with this message at 08:18 on May 25, 2024

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

Sourdough Sam posted:

I'm wondering if, now that his Spielberg credit has been spent, Cline is trying to court Richard Linklater for a Bat City movie with his inclusion. Maybe he's just paying tribute to something he loves, which is all he knows how to do of course, but the inclusion of a living director in his book just seems extra pathetic.

Y'know, I could see Cline watching Slacker and missing the point.

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
I'm catching up on some episodes that I missed. A ton of them have gone missing from Spotify and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with their use of licensed music. I'm checking out the Artemis episodes now. I never read The Martian but I imagine it was decent enough. Artemis is an abomination. Weir and Cline are certainly cut from the same "Nerd culture" cloth :barf:

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Sourdough Sam posted:

I'm catching up on some episodes that I missed. A ton of them have gone missing from Spotify and I'm wondering if it has anything to do with their use of licensed music. I'm checking out the Artemis episodes now. I never read The Martian but I imagine it was decent enough. Artemis is an abomination. Weir and Cline are certainly cut from the same "Nerd culture" cloth :barf:

From what I've heard around the web, The Martian and Project Hail Mary are both actually Kinda Good. It's Artemis that's Weir's big clunker so far.

Breadallelogram
Oct 9, 2012


Sourdough Sam posted:

I'm wondering if it has anything to do with their use of licensed music.

yep

jeeves
May 27, 2001

Deranged Psychopathic
Butler Extraordinaire

nine-gear crow posted:

From what I've heard around the web, The Martian and Project Hail Mary are both actually Kinda Good. It's Artemis that's Weir's big clunker so far.

Both are “what if the narrator was a really smart guy!! (And also lives on Reddit!)”, the insanity of Artemis was that the due the author writing a teenage female girl… who is also “a really smart guy! (And also lives on Reddit!)”

MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
I fell behind so I am only on Episode 2 of Bats but this is such a stupid book.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

MassRafTer posted:

I fell behind so I am only on Episode 2 of Bats but this is such a stupid book.

Like what even IS the main conflict of this book? Because by the end of Episode 2 the protagonist, her bat friend and her lovely manchild failure of an uncle have just picked up sticks and abandoned the farm and the Big Old Beautiful Cave, when you'd think the plot of the book would be about saving both from McEvil Industries. But nope, they're just like "gently caress it, we're gone, see ya."

I've just started Episode 3, but it would not surprise me if the evil corporation that destroyed everything is never mentioned again for the rest of the book.

Fezz
Aug 31, 2001

You should feel ashamed.
Yeah it's stupid. Spoilers for real life. The bats will move into a bridge in downtown Austin. Problem solved.

Uncle Dumbass solves all his problems by ignoring them.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Fezz posted:

Yeah it's stupid. Spoilers for real life. The bats will move into a bridge in downtown Austin. Problem solved.

Uncle Dumbass solves all his problems by ignoring them.

What a lazy rear end in a top hat.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013
https://www.ign.com/articles/ready-player-one-ernest-cline-readyverse-studios-trailer-metaverse-experience

Good news everyone! They created the Torment Nexus!

Vincent Van Goatse
Nov 8, 2006

Enjoy every sandwich.

Smellrose

Yeah this certainly won't crash and burn like every other metaverse.

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Vincent Van Goatse posted:

Yeah this certainly won't crash and burn like every other metaverse.

I look forward to seeing the result of its end of life stage where there's only 3 people playing it and zero moderators so it's just an endless stream of penises and graffiti about how much Enest Cline sucks (penises or otherwise).

Sourdough Sam
May 2, 2010

:dukedog:
A virtual playground where children play with aging pop cultural artifacts has already been perfected via Fortnite. Cline should be dumping his manchild riches into the modding scene.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem
It's funny, when I heard about the book they were doing I actually had my doubts that it would be Clinean enough to make for an entertaining podcast, but I think Bridge might be even worse than all his other dreck.

Mordja fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Jun 3, 2024

nine-gear crow
Aug 10, 2013

Mordja posted:

It's funny, when heard about the book they were doing I actually had my doubts that it would be Clinean enough to make for an entertaining podcast, but I think Bridge might be even worse than all his other dreck.

Dude's like a five year old that's desperate to impress everyone so he just keeps going "And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then, and then" with all these details that just don't add up once he's done because you're listening to a five year old try to turn a story about how he went to the store with his mom and bought a pack of gum into the the time he conquered Saturn and got a medal from the president for it. Chief example in this latest episode: trying to convince the reader how hip and happening Austin, Texas is as a musical hub and then accidentally describing what would have been the second or third greatest music festival of the 1980s after Live Aid if you somehow had ZZ Top, Willie Nelson, Run DMC, Selina, and BB King (if there were other acts mentioned, I've forgotten them) all playing at the same time across multiple venues in a single city in a single night.

It was like that opening section of Armada where he tries to describe the titular video game in terms of all the people who worked on it, and it's just a list of famous video game creators and movie directors, many of whom have never collaborated on anything before and who all have wildly different artistic styles so it just sounds like it would be an absolute hodgepodge of poo poo and an utter disaster/massive flop, despite it being a vital secret training program to teach gamers how to fight the oncoming alien invaders from Uranus or wherever they hailed from.


I think this Ernest Cline guy maybe... doesn't understand poo poo. I dunno.

Mordja
Apr 26, 2014

Hell Gem

nine-gear crow posted:

I think this Ernest Cline guy maybe... doesn't understand poo poo. I dunno.
Jury's still out, let's give him another six-figure publishing deal.

Defiance Industries
Jul 22, 2010

A five-star manufacturer


He is one of the most uncreative and untalented writers working today, which means he will be a massive success because if there's one thing audiences hate, it's good writing.

Dawgstar
Jul 15, 2017

I forget the details but sadly Cline was in the right place right time with 'geeks are the new cool' to take off - he was a co-writer on Fanboys which had a lot of buzz despite basically nobody seeing it and being delayed forever - and now he's got inertia behind him, plus the ever-increasing need for nostalgia. Just failing your way to the top on all levels.

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MassRafTer
May 26, 2001

BAEST MODE!!!
The revelations promised in the new episode do not disappoint.

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