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Sax Mortar posted:You're looking at it the wrong way. It's that he's lost a lot of weight between the pictures (which is kind of hard to tell thanks to a full uniform, but that's the point it's making). It also looks like he's wearing the same, now faded and worn, uniform.
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GoLambo posted:You know I'm going to go ahead and say it but, especially with jews, I don't think the average not-already-very-racist actually existing American is terribly susceptible to antisemitism of the specifically judeo-bolshevism conspiracy variety. There is too much cultural inoculation from WW2 and public jewish visibility + the the cultural perceptions that many jews are nearly irreligious or just otherwise indistinguishable from other "white people" like them in a way say Arabs don't exactly have in the cultural sphere. While it's entirely possible that the establishment is going to try it's best to smear and label anything critical of Israel as antisemitism, and that doubly it's going to empower and amplify the voices of actually existing antiemetics, I think those people are still going to be playing to their base of the kind of dolt that would hear "the jews will not replace us" and nod their head solemnly. Those guys are still very much a bridge too far for your average starbucks drive-through mom, they're loving weirdos through and through and that's not suddenly going to change. If anything I expect this to drive apart the very notion that jewishness is automatically connected to Israel, and further separate the two in the minds of your average person in a way that might never have happened otherwise, especially considering the large degree with which very visible actual jewish americans are being targeted by the same process. Yeah this. Worrying over the confusion itself (giving credence to the false equivalency) serves to muddle the distinction between antisemitism and antizionism
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it also wasn’t true. Someone walked down to the cafeteria and easily snapped a pic of the salad still labeled as Israeli couscous during the ‘controversy’ also during her article about the ‘stabbing’ she told the post she was currently shopping for an eyepatch (even though there was no damage, because she’s full of poo poo)
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Good Citizen posted:it also wasn’t true. Someone walked down to the cafeteria and easily snapped a pic of the salad still labeled as Israeli couscous during the ‘controversy’ It was slightly different, they removed all country names from all dishes indicating origin of the dish like 6 weeks earlier, and then restored Israeli in the Israeli couscous salad because Israeli couscous is different from regular couscous as an ingredient. https://twitter.com/ChudsOfTikTok/status/1734748215004557746
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Good Citizen posted:also during her article about the ‘stabbing’ she told the post she was currently shopping for an eyepatch (even though there was no damage, because she’s full of poo poo) That's just lazy, if she'd gone down to the dollar store and picked up a kid's party eyepatch she'd probably be getting interviewed by CNN right now.
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Leader if Palestinian Islamic jihad puts out a statement =================================== Islamic Jihad: After 200 days, Israel has failed to achieve any of its goals Islamic Jihad Deputy Secretary-General Mohammed al-Hindi told Al Jazeera: After 200 days, Israel has failed to achieve any of its stated goals. In the face of this strategic failure, Israel is forced to act differently. If the occupation forces remain in Gaza, there will be a war of attrition in the Strip. Rafah will not differ from Khan Yunis or the northern Gaza Strip for the resistance. The entry of the occupying forces into Rafah will not solve the Israeli crisis. Netanyahu presents the option of his troops entering Rafah as a victory image. Netanyahu wants to prolong the war and procrastinate and seeks a regional war. The resistance was flexible in the negotiations, but the problem was the position of Israel and America. Israel is exploiting October 7 to carry out its crimes and arm settlers. Talking about Palestinian statehood as contained in the Oslo Accords is a big hoax. There is no project on the table regarding the establishment of a Palestinian state. Arab positions on Gaza are not all in one basket.
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Sancho Banana posted:In reaction to the students' protests, Ben Gvir wants the Israeli police to reach out to Jewish communities abroad to encourage them to create paramilitary "defense" squads like the ones in the kibbutzim and assist in doing so. Definitely a sane suggestion. Dual loyalty definitely isn't real though, he's just encouraging a fifth column loyal to a foreign state to protect people from college kids.
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Sderot got rocketed again and the UN refuses to coordinate with israel in any way about rafah ============== Shrapnel from a rocket fired from northern Gaza hits a building in Sderot Israeli media said that shrapnel from a rocket fired from the northern Gaza Strip landed on a building in the city of Sderot in the Gaza Strip. - Financial Times: UN rejected any coordination with Israel to evacuate civilians from Rafah Britain's Financial Times newspaper quoted informed sources as saying that the United Nations opposes an operation in Rafah in the southern Gaza Strip and will not facilitate the matter on behalf of the Israeli army. The sources added that the UN also refused any coordination with Israel to evacuate civilians from the city. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...%A4%D9%83%D8%AF
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXJm6wQgHA RIP to my recommendations, but I didn't realize these guys were clued into the Ethiopian birth control injections, Irgun, violence in the Mandate of Palestine. Still the Socialism of fools.
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PhilippAchtel posted:Is their argument that the Hamas spokesperson doesn't look like he's starving (unlike the rest of Gaza)? other way around look at the shoulder/chest volume, id guess hes losta good 20-30lb and wasn't ever more than 180-150 in the first place depending on height, you can even see it in his face from the tiny bit visible and the shape of his head (real phrenology hours but rly he's got no cheek fat left whatsoever) e: prolly lost more or was lighter to begin with actually, he looks extremely gaunt in that pic like not actual starvation but on the absolute edge of it FirstnameLastname has issued a correction as of 18:01 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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australian students now joining the protests ===== University of Sydney students condemn Israeli attacks on Palestinians Hundreds of students at Australia's University of Sydney on Wednesday staged a protest to denounce Israeli attacks on Palestinians, setting up tents on campus. Students wrote graffiti on the tents they erected on campus, including "From the river to the sea," "Sever ties with arms manufacturers," "Free Palestine," "Columbia and the University of Sydney," and a banner reading "Gaza solidarity tents." The protesters demanded severing ties with Israeli universities and arms manufacturers, while Australian Senator David Shobridge took part in the protest. https://www.aljazeera.net/news/live...?update=6479374
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXJm6wQgHA Why the gently caress do you keep watching and posting all this dudes videos? Like, yeah weirdo far right nazis know some things so they can use them to reinforce their wackadoo levels of judeo-bolshevism weridness, great, ok? This feels like just posting a bunch of stormfront posts and going "woah, they know about [bad things jews somewhere have done]? wild, you guys should check this out!" I dunno man, stick to posting about military stuff or something, this offramp is loving weird.
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Al-Saqr posted:Hamas lambasts the US government for suppressing freedom of speech on college campuses Hamas, Hezbollah, and Ansar Allah spokesmen are the only posters good at "by your logic" posting and I'm here for it.
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Ignoring the common-usage definition of graffiti to make "writing a slogan on the things you own" seem like "vandalism of public property"
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Tom Guycot posted:Why the gently caress do you keep watching and posting all this dudes videos? Like, yeah weirdo far right nazis know some things so they can use them to reinforce their wackadoo levels of judeo-bolshevism weridness, great, ok? guys, the troop poster might have some fash tendencies, who'da thunk it
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAXJm6wQgHA i know a second gen immigrant polish catholic kid who fell into full blown judeobolshevism american christian nationalism thru the sam Hyde-4chan pipeline (idgi the psychos he ultimately cheerleads would kill him like 3-4x over) it's deffo not making the world any better
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Good Citizen posted:it also wasn’t true. Someone walked down to the cafeteria and easily snapped a pic of the salad still labeled as Israeli couscous during the ‘controversy’ Weird how the hospital that treated her stabbed eye didn't even give her an eyepatch. Just some more antisemitism to throw on the pile I guess.
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FirstnameLastname posted:i know a second gen immigrant polish catholic kid who fell into full blown judeobolshevism american christian nationalism thru the sam Hyde-4chan pipeline (idgi the psychos he ultimately cheerleads would kill him like 3-4x over) it's deffo not making the world any better I'm so happy this paragraph means nothing to me
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Fast Luck posted:"the US banned tiktok for israel" is not a meme it's the truth, the previous attempts to ban it collapsed but suddenly the campaign roared back with new wind in its sails when people realized kids were getting daily evidence of zionist war crimes in their feeds. But anyway even though i said it's not a meme i want everyone to say and know that "The US banned tiktok for israel." all the kids on tiktok gotta know https://twitter.com/ShaykhSulaiman/status/1783175225170858262 
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WoodrowSkillson posted:guys, the troop poster might have some fash tendencies, who'da thunk it its less that and more about saying "No, israel doesn't control our government, now send in the national guard because someone said free palestine." will cause a lot of people to  especially now that the US government is explicitly banning the hot new social media app while lawmakers openly say "there isn't enough pro israel stuff on it." People will either believe the correct materialist opinion, or think that the triple parentheses people actually do run the US government.
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Which also ties into what I've said a bunch of times before. There absolutely does exist an international class of rootless cosmopolitans who run the western world (aka the empire) and who don't give a gently caress about the wellbeing of the common people of <insert any western nation here>. It's just that it's a class, not an ethnicity, and while it does include some Jews, most aren't Jews and most Jews aren't in it. Like, you can't look at how coordinated the Western support for Israel is and not see that this is true.
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Orange Devil posted:Which also ties into what I've said a bunch of times before. There absolutely does exist an international class of rootless cosmopolitans who run the western world (aka the empire) and who don't give a gently caress about the wellbeing of the common people of <insert any western nation here>. It's just that it's a class, not an ethnicity, and while it does include some Jews, most aren't Jews and most Jews aren't in it. No, not really. Most real levers of power of the United States are tied to landowners, and the American elite and their capital is very geographically spread out compared to say the UK elite. The system will rally to defend Israel regardless because Israel is vital to maintaining instability in the middle east, which mostly means cheap resources, specifically oil and gas, and prevents the rise of a unified Arab power that would be a major challenge to pretty much every powerful western interest group. Like Iraq war was also not as much a blunder realpolitik wise as most Americans think, it opened up the opportunity for Islamic radicals which served the interests of the US much more than they were a problem until ISIS got pretty big, the stupid part of it strategically was that the US underestimated how easily Iran would be able to influence Iraq without a strongman like Saddam. Butter Activities has issued a correction as of 18:25 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Tom Guycot posted:I dunno man, stick to posting about military stuff or something, this offramp is loving weird. WoodrowSkillson posted:guys, the troop poster might have some fash tendencies, who'da thunk it lol I don't know if you need me to explain context to you bolded and in all caps, but you can describe something without endorsing it. In fact, you probably should understand what causes things you don't like. Tankbuster did a great job explaining the process, but it gets a book length treatment in History in a Post-Truth World: Theory and Praxis and Far-Right Revisionism and the End of History Alt/Histories, both of which specifically detail how lib-left bedwetting, and the message discipline around Israel and the Israel lobby, in a society without class consciousness or even the language to describe class conflict, will inevitably drive people towards the newly coalescing right. We went through this all in 2016, where the cultural right stumbled onto issues that appealed to people through a reasoning that wasn't based on class. Take the border. That racial anxiety, however tapped into the real material conditions of the Precariat who felt immigration as a pressure on the labour market. The liberal response, silencing all discussion of the issue whatsoever, even if it was theoretically correct in assuming the underlying thought process was not based on labour as such but a right wing racist conspiracy, "the great replacement", compound the issue. By making any discussion impermissible, and conflating discussion of the material phenomenon or even the reaction itself as inherently reactionary, it simply steered discussion exclusively into rightwing spaces. Liberal attempts at narrative control at the End of History drove radicalization, in other words. Here, we see the same thing. Sam Hyde discussing a genocide, is notable, and relevant. You don't have to like it, but it's the end result of what people have predicted here for six months. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 18:33 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Sancho Banana posted:In reaction to the students' protests, Ben Gvir wants the Israeli police to reach out to Jewish communities abroad to encourage them to create paramilitary "defense" squads like the ones in the kibbutzim and assist in doing so. Definitely a sane suggestion. So they just want to expand the Jewish Defense League? 
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:lol I don't know if you need me to explain context to you bolded and in all caps, but you can describe something without endorsing it. In fact, you probably should understand what causes things you don't like. we do not need you to educate us that racists will be broken clocks when the targets of their ire do bad things. we know who sam hyde is. i would wager a giant % of Million Dollar Extreme's viewers were something awful posters
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quote:Everyone started getting hungry and thirsty, especially the children. Suddenly the soldiers brought water bottles and started handing them out. Mom told us that we shouldn’t accept water from the occupation army, and that we would leave soon. She asked everyone to be patient, and added that if anyone couldn’t bear it, they could drink.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Dual loyalty definitely isn't real though, he's just encouraging a fifth column loyal to a foreign state to protect people from college kids. stop making posts insinuating that anti-semitic tropes are actually real.
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Zodium posted:stop making posts insinuating that anti-semitic tropes are actually real. The loving security minister of Israel, Itamar Ben-Gvir, is insisting that it is actually real. This is the well poisoning thing all over again. The language Israel uses around discussing Israeli actions, creates a phenomenology where when material reality and antisemitic tropes intersect, it doesn't make the tropes true. However, we know that's because they were caused by materially different things, and are materially different processes. When you preclude discussion of the actual material reality, or observation of similarity to tropes, you create two problems. First, it's true and observable, so you fuel conspiratorial thinking. Two, doing so suggests the cause is that found in the tropes, and not the actual political social processes at play. Israel attempting to pressure the Diaspora, either to make Aliyah, or to put pressure on governments where the diaspora arrives, is the State of Israel appealing to (real or perceived) loyalty to Israel by Jewish diaspora communities. This does not mean that Jewish people, as Jewish people, are driving the process. It is statecraft, by an apartheid state. The actual cause, Israeli foreign policy, and US foreign policy working in tandem, is obscured by the prohibition of the issue being discussed in public life. Therefore, the only discussion is one, not based on an understanding of the Israeli government as the chief actor here, but based on the idea that the Jewish community as an ethnic or religious bloc is coordinating action. That is, obviously, impossible. The reality is that Israel relies on pressuring the Diaspora to bring about foreign policy objectives, and they, not the diaspora, are the initiator of evens where the Diaspora engages in domestic policy on behalf of the State of Israel. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 18:40 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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FirstnameLastname posted:i know a second gen immigrant polish catholic kid who fell into full blown judeobolshevism american christian nationalism thru the sam Hyde-4chan pipeline (idgi the psychos he ultimately cheerleads would kill him like 3-4x over) it's deffo not making the world any better Seems appropriate to crosspost this from the Ukraine thread Pomeroy posted:The frustrated, the over-ambitious, those fundamentally lacking in steadiness of character, see the energy, the spontaneity of middle class reaction, and think they have found a short-cut past the slow, necessary work of organizing our class.
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:The loving security minister of Israel, Itamar Ben-Gvir, is insisting that it is actually real. it's not necessarily illogical to point out that antisemitism is fueled by zionism in various ways, it's just a topic of conversation that leads to weird types of posting that are bad in this thread. it's way too easy to make a post that sounds like "hmm, what if the antisemites are driven to their antisemitism by a logical assessment of the facts?" when that's clearly not the case and antisemites just gonna antisemite -- and a breakdown of specifically how their brain processes seem to work isn't useful at all itt speng31b has issued a correction as of 18:42 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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DJJIB-DJDCT posted:Here, we see the same thing. Sam Hyde discussing a genocide, is notable, and relevant. You don't have to like it, but it's the end result of what people have predicted here for six months. please stop posting the nazi guy's videos
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jetz0r posted:please stop posting the nazi guy's videos Yes, of course. That's all you had to say. Thank you. speng31b posted:it's not necessarily illogical to point out that antisemitism is fueled by zionism in various ways, it's just a topic of conversation that leads to weird types of posting that are bad in this thread. it's way too easy to make a post that sounds like "hmm, what if the antisemites are driven to their antisemitism by a logical assessment of the facts?" when that's clearly not the case and antisemites just gonna antisemite -- and a breakdown of specifically how their brain processes seem to work isn't useful at all itt You put that well, and I appreciate where you're coming from. I just want it to be clear that I'm not interpreting this conflict through ethno-nationalism and historical revisionism. I'm explaining that this conflict, and the media and cultural environment that it is taking place in, fuels ethno-nationalist and revisionist interpretations of history in the vacuum created by US foreign policy and Israeli government policy being excluded from the discourse. DJJIB-DJDCT has issued a correction as of 18:48 on Apr 24, 2024 |
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Al! posted:it is exactly orzo, but i guess its slightly different because it's "toasted" Wait so rice a Roni?
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Tankbuster posted:its less that and more about saying "No, israel doesn't control our government, now send in the national guard because someone said free palestine." will cause a lot of people to Its almost like in an environment devoid of Left wing sentiment, the ZOG people will fill the void and boy I wonder whats going to happen in America
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