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"What's his name" Little known fact: saying Trump's name three times will summon him.
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Bro Dad posted:shout-out to the guy who raised money on /r chapotraphouse as a "socialist trucker for congress" then spent all the money on a gaming pc honestly good for him
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Apr 25, 2024 02:46
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Being against genocide is Russian disinformation now Putin is the only person on the planet who has agency
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my dad remarked there are a lot of ww2 movies coming out these days. well anyway
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Bro Dad posted:shout-out to the guy who raised money on /r chapotraphouse as a "socialist trucker for congress" then spent all the money on a gaming pc dudes rock
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Joementum posted:how does the DCCC still manage to convince two or three of these type of guys to lose every two years? He's bragging about that purple heart? I've always made fun of those guys for being dumb, slow, or both. I like heroes that managed not to get shot.
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Uncle Wemus posted:"We recognize Israel's right to protect itself. We reject the policy and the practice of Netanyahu. Terrible. What could be worse than what he has done in response? He should resign. He's ultimately responsible," former Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. Yes I did admit that Netanyahu is going so far beyond self-defense, he's committing atrocities and should resign, but if you agree with me you're a Russian asset, tovarisch VitalSigns has issued a correction as of 02:54 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Bro Dad posted:shout-out to the guy who raised money on /r chapotraphouse as a "socialist trucker for congress" then spent all the money on a gaming pc Duncan Hunter Jr.? He pled guilty and then got pardoned by Trump. 
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Danann posted:do any of them realize that they're implicitly associating democracy with unlimited war and failing infrastructure while associating authoritarianism with self-defense and working economies Also pretty sure that cuts both ways, if they're afraid they might lose because of it. Sounds like they care more about banning TikTok than saving democracy (Well unless democracy means not watching pro-Palestinian reels on TikTok now)
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Danann posted:do any of them realize Nope. e: I am enjoying, though, how the worst assholes in the world (e.g: Clymer, Wu, Stancil; all the usual succspects) are so impotently angry at young people for daring to actually believe in something other than self promotion. F_Shit_Fitzgerald has issued a correction as of 03:01 on Apr 25, 2024 |
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Danann posted:do any of them realize that they're implicitly associating democracy with unlimited war and failing infrastructure while associating authoritarianism with self-defense and working economies the way those words are used by liberals is totally content-free tribal identification and nothing more
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https://twitter.com/BretonRouge/status/1783189500199334125 Can't tell if this is satire or libs.txt Sure the government is doing another lovely thing, but don't worry, once they're all safely re-elected and don't have to care about voters for 2-4 years we can totally convince them to do the right thing.
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Nichael posted:maybe someone should start a thread on resources for this, as I imagine a lot of people here would want to go full martial law and another kettling of the entire downtown area like blm and the cops will still despise her for all the wrong reasons
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Council-based voting for representatives in a one-party state: not democracy, it's authoritarian because im not allowed to run for office as a nazi Direct voting on laws:  POPULISM Voting for one of exactly two rich assholes to do slightly different versions of the same policies I hate: now thats democracy
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Danann posted:do any of them realize that they're implicitly associating democracy with unlimited war and failing infrastructure while associating authoritarianism with self-defense and working economies they don't know what it actually is and they don't care
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:"What's his name"  im the ghost with most babe
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VitalSigns posted:https://twitter.com/BretonRouge/status/1783189500199334125 my favorite part of this conspiracy theory is that china is not only running an election interference campaign via tiktok but that they'd rather have trump (the guy they identify as a war-mongering nazi who famously hates china) win and then, following the liberal conspiracy theory de jure, become el presidente for life
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like tiktok isnt hacking voting machines to directly disrupt the electoral process, theyre saying that china is going to spread misinformation right so what they're literally afraid of is that china is going to try to get trump elected with an underhanded ad campaign targeting gen z this is what liberals are currently convincing themselves is true so that they can keep supporting biden
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Scarabrae posted:what the gently caress is a sephardic jew? The Spanish didn't let Jews immigrate to the New World, having just expelled them from Grenada, but there were a respectable number of conversos, ethnically Jewish converts to Catholicism, who settled in places like Puerto Rico. Among them, some percentage, which was vanishingly small, were judaizantes, secretly continuing to practice Judaism. The thing is, the New World in some ways offered more freedom compared to Spain, once you were actually there, so people were at times more free to be secret Protestants or Jews. Also, the Spanish brought lots of Greeks to the New World, they were employed as mercenaries, as ship's navigators, or artillery captains, and the Spanish did not do a good job of identifying what Greek Orthodoxy actually looked like, other than not-Catholicism, so some judaizantes were able to skate based on that mistaken identity. On the other hand, since the New World was actively being created, and the Spanish controlled who came and went, there could be less religious freedom than Spain, depending on the time and place within the Americas. The inquisition was also very active in the New World because the Spanish were in the process of converting the indigenous population, so surveillance of orthodoxy was considered part of national security. Related to that, as the British and Dutch started making trouble in the Caribbean, the hunt for secret Protestants picked up, and caught some Jewish people in the dragnet. Even a generation after the expulsion, most Spaniards didn't know what Judaism actually looked like in practice, and ironically, neither did the judaizantes, since rabbinic Judaism was broken up by the expulsion and prohibition. The practice of a family keeping a menorah disguised as a regular candelabra, or a secret Torah, was not really a a threat to Spanish social and religious authority in the New World, or the old for that matter, but the process was inquisition was important to maintaining the symbolic political unity of a unified Spain under Catholic monarchs. So, that's a sort of top level overview. There were some Jewish converts in the new world, and some of those were not sincere. The thing is, their practice of Judaism quickly departed from being religious per se, and was ethnic/cultural/familial. By the second and third generation there were many people that we can identify as essentially Catholic, based on their writings, but who retained some of these trapping of Judaism. This kind of syncretism is extremely common around the world, and the investigation and suppression of it in colonial societies can be understood as being more about enforcing cultural uniformity or state political control than religious orthodoxy being under threat. Which is a way to say that self-identification with Judaism outlasted Judaism as a religious practice in the Spanish world, and there were many "Jewish Catholics", just like there were many "Moorish Catholics". The other layer to this is that the Inquisition, and place of Jews in Spain, never functioned as most people understand. Jewish people were very useful as a sort of "auxiliary" to the monarchy in the Reconquesta. You can understand this somewhat like Indian traders in British East Africa. The Spanish policy of frontier management required a buffer, marches, be established in newly conquered Moorish land before real settlement began. These militarized frontier zones were fairly permeable, and during long stretches of peace, Moors were able to obtain letters to travel and trade in the region. Because the military garrisons required services, a civil economy, really, Spanish Jews, or new Jewish subjects in the region, were provided with land and letters patent to trade as merchants in these new areas. The Jews, rather than being oppressed in Spain, prior to Grenada, were integral to the process of Reconquest. Alright, so next layer above that, we have Spanish law as written, and as practiced. The ideology of the united crowns of Aragon and Castile required the uniform practice of the Catholic faith because they defined themselves through the struggle against the Moors. The conquest of Grenada, as a signal achievement and fulfilment of the national project dating back centuries, required a new idée fixe to orient around. The completion of the project was symbolized through expulsion. In reality, while people did leave, of course, the majority of Moors and Jews remained behind, where it was demanded that they be converted. First of all, while people took this both seriously and literally, as in you could not say it wasn't important for people to convert, and you couldn't have Moriscos openly still pray five times a day (even if they rapidly became Catholic prayers), people still needed to show their obedience to the law, because that's how polities work. There was a lot of leniency, and a lot of wink wink nudge nudge, and that's because contra to 19th century stereotype, the remaining Jews and Moors were not a political or cultural threat to Spain, and that was understood at the time. There's more to say about this, but generally, cuius regio, eius religio. As long as a person played ball and wasn't openly treasonous - because that's how openly defying the religion of the finally unified Spain would be characterized, as a political act - they would be fine. So that's the history, roughly sketched. The history of this small community became significant hundreds of years later for three reasons. First, the Black Legend. In the lead-up to the Mexican-Amercan War and again the Spanish-American War, Americans became big consumers of the Black Legend, lurid accounts of alleged Catholic atrocities. This has been integral to how the English world defines itself against the arch rival Spanish and French, so no surprises there. Foxe's Book of Martyrs, Actes and Monuments of these Latter and Perillous Days, Touching Matters of the Church, has never gone out of print and became very popular among Americans again in the late 19th century. It's full of accounts of the Spanish Inquisition, torture, persecution etc. That's where nearly everything people think they know comes from. So the idea of evil Catholics nefariously hunting and torturing secret Jews, periodically reentered the life of the English speaking world, depending on either immigration to the US or foreign policy. Second, when Jewish people began to really arrive in America in large numbers, Ashkenazim from Poland following the revolt of 1863, they overwhelmed the small community that had existed essentially at the level of families, since ports of British North America began connecting to global trade networks. That's a way to say Jewish people predated Jewish identity in America, just like Jewish people outlasted Jewish identity in the Spanish world. Well, as with any group of immigrants there was a lot of hostility, that in Britain and Germany (which experienced the same wave), and America the Jewish population that already existed, which was assimilated and often intellectual, kind of was asked to account for their bumpkin coreligionists. To establish their place in America, these writers looked for an antiquity of Jewish settlement in the Americas, because that was a kind of shorthand to legitimacy in the 19th century, particularly when facing nativism. "Jewish people have been here since X" was an antidote to "Go back to Poland". There was also some stuff about this idea of a Jewish community in America, which as I said, had not been a thing when tiny numbers of Jewish people immediately assimilated before. So these writers, also writing at the same time as the Spanish American War, looked for a history of Jews in the New World to show they belonged there, and so placed a great deal of emphasis on the judaizantes, even though there was no continuity between they and themselves. See, that Jewish people had been in the New World at some point was what was important, not that they persisted as a community, or even how they functioned. Since these were assimilated American Jews, they leaned into the tropes of Foxe's Book of Martyrs, and portrayed a community hunted by the Spanish, essentially until liberated by the creation of America and defeat of Spain. There were several levels of ideological construction there, but one was that, remember this is prior to the Holocaust, recounting a history of persecution, which was largely fictionalized, was a way to encourage tolerance of the newly arrived Jewish immigrants, and by extension themselves, and also, a sort of American hagiography, because it gave a point of comparison to the Statue of Liberty and the promise of immigration to America. So, lots of uses for this history. Sort of parallel to this, there was by the late 1800's large scale Jewish immigration to parts of Latin America, Argentina and Mexico in particular. These communities rapidly assimilated. However, Argentina had unbelievably complex racial politics, so there was a bit more distinctiveness and religious conversion was not part of assimilation as much as in previous centuries. This was in part because of the development of a sort of Jewish nationhood in Europe, mostly France and Germany in the mid-late 1800's that looked down on assimilation, but that's very complex and neither here nor there. The main point is for assimilated and non-assimilated alike, social standing in Latin America was all about pedigree. Ancestry was how the Spanish judged themselves and their neighbours. For the Ashkenazim in Argentina, claiming Sephardic pedigree made them, in a way, Crillos, Spaniards born in the colonies, and the highest social standing in the castas racial hierarchy. They weren't Spanish but by (claiming) their families arrived with Cortez and Pizarro, the Jewish upper middle class and lower upper class of Latin America got some prestige. So this promoted the idea of outsize numbers and influence of Sephardim, and some sort of unbroken continuity to the present day. The last thing that happened was the creation of the state of Israel in 1948. The Israeli recruitment of North African Jews, who often identified as Sephardic, shows how state-driven narratives can influence ethnic and historical identities. In the early years of Israel's statehood, the government undertook significant efforts to encourage the immigration of Jewish communities from across the globe, particularly those from Arab countries in North Africa and the Middle East. Many of these Jews claimed Sephardic heritage, aligning themselves with the Spanish and Portuguese Jews who had been expelled in the 15th century, even though their practices and traditions were often distinct from those of the Iberian Sephardim. This ideological construction was partly facilitated by Israeli and broader Zionist narratives that emphasized a continuous history of suffering and displacement as central to Jewish identity. The narrative promoted by the Israeli state not only served to unify the diverse Jewish diaspora under an (invented) common historical and cultural banner but also strategically aligned with the state's goals of population growth and the reinforcement of a national identity that (claimed to) spanned centuries and continents. In the context of Israel, the history of the Sephardim was often idealized and homogenized to fit the broader Zionist narrative of return and redemption. This approach led to a glossing over of the (factual) local histories of different Jewish communities, including the unique traditions of North African Jews. The emphasis on a shared Sephardic heritage helped to position these immigrant groups within a familiar historical framework that aimed at both the Israeli public and the international community. This framing not only facilitated the integration of immigrants into Israeli society but also played a role in the international perception of Israel as a homeland for all Jews, fulfilling a biblical and historical prophecy. tl;dr The identity of Sephardic Jews has been molded to suit the needs of larger national, political, and cultural narratives. From Spanish border policy, to colonial conversos, Spain's complex relationship with the Jewish community is definitely part of the story. It was molded again to assert historical legitimacy in the face of American nativism, and then again to match the ideological imperatives of a nascent Israeli state. Through it all, the idea of there being a "Sephardic" race or community, served as a convenient tool for broader objectives. This eclipsed the actual ethnic makeup, religious practice, level of social cohesion or historical continuity of any such group. This reinvention, or "invention," of the Sephardim prioritized collective narratives over the intricate and individual histories of the people it purportedly describes, leading to a simplified, sometimes fictionalized version of a deeply complex and varied identity. e: Which is why AOC just bullshitting about it is perfect. She is participating in the tradition of appropriating that legacy to suit her political needs in the moment. She's not aware of it in those terms, but it demonstrates why this idea has been so useful to so many people over so many years.
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In Joe Biden's America, police assault journalists, news crews, and peacefully demonstrating students It's so funny that liberals tried to convince people that police brutality was an aberration under Trump and not at the heart and soul of the American political system
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VitalSigns posted:Also pretty sure that cuts both ways, if they're afraid they might lose because of it. feels like i'm cursed by good long term memory to remember the popular folk tale of yesteryear of the prosperous city on the hill that didn't spend all its money on weapons was how the us won the cold war democrats just want to invoke vibes without any of the icky material changes that happens like increasing unionization as a result of industrialization
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Danann posted:democrats just want to invoke vibes without any of the icky material changes that happens like increasing unionization as a result of industrialization Yes, which is why we're going to see some crazy poo poo.
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VoicesCanBe posted:In Joe Biden's America, police assault journalists, news crews, and peacefully demonstrating students Like literally everything else the government has ever done, it's only a bad thing if it's done by the other team. Cops under Trump putting people's teeth on the curb? Obviously police brutality and authoritarianism. Cops under Biden beating the poo poo out of people? Well they were russian plants who love Trump and deserve it.
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Willa Rogers posted:check this out: sleeps 16+ and is $456/night during the convention: im in. its time for the cspam goon meet 2024
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the_steve posted:Like literally everything else the government has ever done, it's only a bad thing if it's done by the other team. Makes me wonder how this is handled if Trump is in office. VBNMW is going to hurt the Dems, I think, because of the contradiction of the Good Guy party supporting genocide. Trump was already president and didn't support a genocide, so making the case that genocide is the lesser of two evils compared to Trump getting elected is... a tough sell.
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spacetoaster posted:He's bragging about that purple heart? I've always made fun of those guys for being dumb, slow, or both. you don’t need to be shot to get a Purple Heart. awards are automatic based on meeting the criteria which are basically to be wounded in action against an enemy while serving in the armed forces even if you don’t want one! my grandfather received a Purple Heart in WWII. he was a pilot of transports like C-47s and gliders. late in WWII he was part of the flight crew of a C-47 flying supplies over the pacific as part of the build up for the invasion of the Japanese home islands. while walking to the lavatory they encountered some turbulence and he stubbed his toe. the flight surgeon said it was broken, wrapped it up and he was fine after like a week or whatever. how embarrassing but thankfully everyone will forget about it! years and years later he’s decided to make a career out of the Air Force and is stationed at the pentagon. one day his CO presents him with a Purple Heart and a hand written apology from someone much higher up regarding the delay in recognizing his sacrifice. you see Japanese fighters (idk ships? flak?) were recorded as being in the general area and the flight surgeon recorded treating a broken bone after the flight therefore being clumsy while walking to the toilet was a wound in action against the enemy
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Danann posted:do any of them realize that they're implicitly associating democracy with unlimited war and failing infrastructure while associating authoritarianism with self-defense and working economies Having lived in China or adjacent for awhile now, it really doesn't matter even to the ones who know what it actually looks like. They are ideologically committed to the tenets that being able to vote and poo poo post on Twitter are sacrosanct ideals. They also say they support protest but are big whiners about blocking traffic and seem to think that all labor actions in China are Not Protest. If China were a liberal democracy and still had all the material advantages they'd just dust off the old anti Japan stuff about "collectivism" and "cultural bias towards conformity" to ensure that the west stays #1 best place to be no matter what
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Telluric Whistler posted:Having lived in China or adjacent for awhile now, it really doesn't matter even to the ones who know what it actually looks like. On top of that, "freedom" and "liberty" in America were mostly the invention of South Carolina planters, who constructed a really loving counterintuitive of idea of what those words mean in political culture. The ideological construction of liberty and freedom in the context of South Carolina's slave society, against the backdrop of liberal capitalism, is built on contradictions. This contradiction primarily arises from the simultaneous embrace of liberal economic principles, which theoretically emphasize individual rights and freedoms, and the maintenance of a slave system that fundamentally denied these rights to a substantial portion of the population. In the antebellum South, liberty and freedom were articulated in a manner almost diametrically opposed to how socialists understand them today. Liberty was construed by the planter class not as a universal right but as a specific privilege pertaining to their status as free white landowners and slaveholders. This version of liberty was heavily tied to property rights, which, critically, included ownership of slaves. The Southern claim to freedom was the same as the maintenance and defence of a system that inherently restricted the freedom of others—a fundamental contradiction to us, but not to them. Slavery was integral to the capitalist economy emerging at the time, providing the labor necessary to drive agricultural and industrial productivity. This duality reflects a broader American tendency to define freedom in a way that is intrinsically tied to economic self-interest and individualism. Historically, American freedom has emphasized property rights and the liberty of enterprise, often at the expense of broader social rights and communal welfare. This formulation of liberty is clear in the framing of the Constitution, which enshrined a balance of power that favoured landed and slaveholding elites. So, when you have America take the vocabulary of freedom and liberty, and apply it anywhere else, it doesn't work. English Canada has a different, equally reprehensible, relationship to the notion of "liberty", which is how they defined themselves agains the French and Indians and justified putting a boot to their necks. I would imagine Britain has an equally hosed up relationship. 18th century liberals got these ideas from the writings of Roman senators, fundamentally "freedom" and "liberty" mean "aristocratic privilege" and the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was getting the English speaking working class invested in those terms as well, since they appear to appeal to their class interest but actually mean the opposite, the freedom for the ruling class to subjugate them.
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