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Push El Burrito
May 9, 2006

Soiled Meat

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chrisgt
Sep 6, 2011

:getin:

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

You losers just need to start heating your roads geothermally.



When I lived in Akureyri they piped hot water to houses with a meter and you paid for your heating water like any other utility. Really weird concept for the rest of the world, but perfectly normal there.
I believe the return water is what they use to heat the streets

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

chrisgt posted:

When I lived in Akureyri they piped hot water to houses with a meter and you paid for your heating water like any other utility. Really weird concept for the rest of the world, but perfectly normal there

There's a lot of things that are perfectly normal in Iceland that are really weird concepts for the rest of the world.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
District heating is uncommon but not that weird.

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

https://i.imgur.com/vGk0YqD.mp4

McGavin fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Apr 25, 2024

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012



+ a bunch more Warning: You WILL die signs

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Fumble posted:

That will be used to clear out the homeless at some point, mark my words

eventually it'll be used to clear out you but yes there is a pecking order

McGavin
Sep 18, 2012

https://i.imgur.com/q4x8kRO.mp4

Cartoon Man
Jan 31, 2004


Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...




The crazy part is, it's not even hot water or anything, they just really don't want you in there

Harry_Potato
May 21, 2021

No little red flag. #OSHAFAIL

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


For someone who’s never operated an excavator, and is planning to rent a mini in the very near future, and is the sort of nerd who would totally practice via simulator in the mean time, is there any sort of normal recommendation for ISO vs SAE patterns when it comes to learning for a first-timer?

It sounds like ISO is more standard worldwide, but SAE is entrenched in the US, but maybe ISO is gaining ground there with new equipment?

Assuming that whatever I end up with can be readily switched between the two.

I tried SAE for a while, it was okay I guess, then I switched to ISO and my brain really liked that, it seemed to click. Which is probably as good a criteria as any, but I’m curious what the recommendation would be for a total greenhorn, if any.

PainterofCrap
Oct 17, 2002

hey bebe



Just jump in and start playing ‘excavator.’ poo poo works itself out after a couple minutes; it’s not rocket science.

Bad Munki
Nov 4, 2008

We're all mad here.


Yeah, that’s pretty much the plan, pregaming a little because I can. I’m a weekend warrior at best so this’ll be a one time thing, I was mostly just curious what would be recommended for someone who was actually going to be long term serious about the skill but starting from zero.

Turrurrurrurrrrrrr
Dec 22, 2018

I hope this is "battle" enough for you, friend.


Legit question to Americans: How do I grill the 30-50 feral hogs that run into my bbq within 3-5 minutes?

Eeyo
Aug 29, 2004

i had no idea how excavators work so when this came up earlier itt i had to search it


turns out excavators do not unscrew themselves lmao

Gomez Chamberlain
Mar 22, 2005

Subakh ul kuhar!

Eeyo posted:

i had no idea how excavators work so when this came up earlier itt i had to search it

turns out excavators do not unscrew themselves lmao

:allears:

Sentient Data
Aug 31, 2011

My molecule scrambler ray will disintegrate your armor with one blow!

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

An all timer

Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:

chrisgt posted:

When I lived in Akureyri they piped hot water to houses with a meter and you paid for your heating water like any other utility. Really weird concept for the rest of the world, but perfectly normal there.
I believe the return water is what they use to heat the streets

That's just district heating, though. Most cities in Germany use it.

It used to be steam, but nowadays it's just hot water (more capacity, less dangerous, less transmission loss). In my city hot water comes from a combined gas power plant / electric boiler / future industrial heat pump.

Iceland is special because it's practically a volcano.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Do you have pics of cats enjoying the heated ground? because I need that.

The Management
Jan 2, 2010

sup, bitch?
The best thing about city central heating is you can use waste heat from any number of industries to heat your water and home for free.

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

The Management posted:

The best thing about city central heating is you can use waste heat from any number of industries to heat your water and home for free.

Yeah but how would companies make money off that

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




Mynameismud posted:

This is not true at all. Please look up actual numbers before talking poop

https://www.parool.nl/nieuws/al-twee-doden-dit-jaar-hoe-onveilig-is-de-tram~bd1188e1

Per kilometer (i assume vehicle-kilometer, not passenger-kilometer) 12 times as many accidents with severe consequences as with cars. Per kilometer 57 times as many deadly accidents. The number of deaths varies per year, but in 2000 7 people died in tram accidents in Amsterdam, on average it's around 3 with many more non-deaths but serious injuries.
It's obvious because you are sending a vehicle through pedestrian and bicycle crossings (at normal city speeds) with the same brake distance (and probably the same kinetic energy) of a fully loaded lorry doing 80km/h on the highway, or the brake distance of a passenger car at ~130km/h.
At 50km/h, the city speed for trams, their brake distance is 60m. For road vehicles? Between 10 and 20m.
With the speed limit for road vehicles not driving on the tram lanes now reduced to 30km/h, the difference in death toll between trams and the other vehicles will get even larger.

I don't think anyone would accept sending road vehicles through the city, at speeds that result in a brake distance of 60m, even if per passenger-kilometer they would have serious injury and death numbers that aren't especially high.

I'm not advocating for ripping out Amsterdam's tram network, but definitely for giving them their own tramways without level crossings, or if that's impossible and a new electric high capacity line is needed, to use the double articulated buses like Utrecht had rolling around for a while.
Alternatively, give the tram tracks a tarmac centre bit anywhere near crossings, and develop something rubber brake shoes under the tram so you get the benefit of rubber on asphalt traction levels - and of course low 'noses' on the tram that have the same pedestrian safety systems as modern cars have.

Not counted are the number of injuries because of people ending up with their bicycle wheel in the tram gutters, or slipping when walking across wet rails. I've seen that happen very often, especially with tourists who don't know how to cross tram gutters on a bicycle.

LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 09:08 on Apr 25, 2024

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Holy poo poo, we found the goon who really hates trains.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I tried googling the topic and the first result about amsterdam tram deaths was a new article from a couple weeks ago about how they wanted to acknowledge how their tram system was complicit in the holocaust and then I just got sad and stopped researching

MrQwerty
Apr 15, 2003

LOVE IS BEAUTIFUL
(づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ♥(‘∀’●)


rofl

LimaBiker
Dec 9, 2020




jetz0r posted:

Holy poo poo, we found the goon who really hates trains.

No. I'm just very much against sending vehicles with a slab front, a brake distance of 60m and a mass of 50 ton through areas where those vehicles interact with vulnerable road users. That's it. I don't own a car, i travel by train and other forms of public transport on the regular. Someone can have nuanced opinions over what form of transport is appropriate where, you know.

I'm very much in favor of (light) rail anywhere where their long brake distance and inherently large kinetic energy aren't gonna hurt people. Whether above or underground, i love the Amsterdam metro system (though i like the berlin one much more), and i'm very much in favor of making the national train network non-profit again so more people can use it. It's as expensive as driving a car at the moment, which sucks. Driving is cheaper if you travel with 2 or more people.

It's just that they should be used where appropriate, and i think they're appropriate in places where a large brake distance does not really cause injury to cyclists and pedestrians. Cars etc aren't really that much at risk, i'm not aware of any drivers dieing in a tram crash.

LimaBiker fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Apr 25, 2024

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem
Trams don't run red lights.

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS

mmkay
Oct 21, 2010

By popular demand posted:

Do you have pics of cats enjoying the heated ground? because I need that.

No, but when it's thawing after winter you can see where the heat pipes go through, because the grass is snow-free there first.

PurpleXVI
Oct 30, 2011

Spewing insults, pissing off all your neighbors, betraying your allies, backing out of treaties and accords, and generally screwing over the global environment?
ALL PART OF MY BRILLIANT STRATEGY!

ilmucche posted:

Yeah but how would companies make money off that

I mean it's funny you ask, but a number of companies DO actually benefit from it. Because they NEED the water cool so they can dump more heat into it, thus turning the entire local region into their coolant loop(that they get paid to shove their heat into, even!) is supremely to their benefit compared to a more compact and expensive cooling loop on their own grounds that just tosses the heat into the air where anyone could enjoy it, even a pigeon who doesn't even have a wallet. Disgusting.

Kith
Sep 17, 2009

You never learn anything
by doing it right.


https://i.imgur.com/lyAXwj5.mp4

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


Can some kind of clothing nerd approximate how many Kgs of laundry had to get dried to accumulate this much lint?

Mynameismud
Jul 12, 2009

LimaBiker posted:

https://www.parool.nl/nieuws/al-twee-doden-dit-jaar-hoe-onveilig-is-de-tram~bd1188e1

Per kilometer (i assume vehicle-kilometer, not passenger-kilometer) 12 times as many accidents with severe consequences as with cars. Per kilometer 57 times as many deadly accidents. The number of deaths varies per year, but in 2000 7 people died in tram accidents in Amsterdam, on average it's around 3 with many more non-deaths but serious injuries.
It's obvious because you are sending a vehicle through pedestrian and bicycle crossings (at normal city speeds) with the same brake distance (and probably the same kinetic energy) of a fully loaded lorry doing 80km/h on the highway, or the brake distance of a passenger car at ~130km/h.
At 50km/h, the city speed for trams, their brake distance is 60m. For road vehicles? Between 10 and 20m.
With the speed limit for road vehicles not driving on the tram lanes now reduced to 30km/h, the difference in death toll between trams and the other vehicles will get even larger.

I don't think anyone would accept sending road vehicles through the city, at speeds that result in a brake distance of 60m, even if per passenger-kilometer they would have serious injury and death numbers that aren't especially high.

I'm not advocating for ripping out Amsterdam's tram network, but definitely for giving them their own tramways without level crossings, or if that's impossible and a new electric high capacity line is needed, to use the double articulated buses like Utrecht had rolling around for a while.
Alternatively, give the tram tracks a tarmac centre bit anywhere near crossings, and develop something rubber brake shoes under the tram so you get the benefit of rubber on asphalt traction levels - and of course low 'noses' on the tram that have the same pedestrian safety systems as modern cars have.

Not counted are the number of injuries because of people ending up with their bicycle wheel in the tram gutters, or slipping when walking across wet rails. I've seen that happen very often, especially with tourists who don't know how to cross tram gutters on a bicycle.

One year there are 2 fatal accidents with a tram
Year before 0
Year before 1
On average over a longer time period its one fatal accident every 2-3 years.
That is a very low number. (look at deaths caused by car)

On average 20 people drown in the canals in Amsterdam per year.
Mostly drunk man taking a piss in the canal and fall.

Trams are only allowed top speed on their own lanes, separated from other traffic.
They are not level with the street there is a little curb.
Trams rails are surrounded by a unique pavement so you have a clear visual clue you are in tram space.

If they are in the street they move slow and they are very predictable in traffic.
They ring a bell when they start moving, they ring a bell before a level intersection.
They ring there bell if they think you don't notice them.
Trams obey the traffic rules.
If you are not blind and deaf (or a tourist) and you follow the traffic rules,
you should never be surprised by a tram and you should never walk/ride your bike onto a tram rails by accident.

Getting your bicycle wheel stuck in a tram rail (and injure yourself)
That is a operator error, a skill issue.
And to me a clear indication you should ride a tram and not a bike.

Trams good and save.
Cars bad and deadly.
Tourist just dumb af.

wesleywillis
Dec 30, 2016

SUCK A MALE CAMEL'S DICK WITH MIRACLE WHIP!!

Mynameismud posted:

One year there are 2 fatal accidents with a tram
Year before 0
Year before 1
On average over a longer time period its one fatal accident every 2-3 years.
That is a very low number. (look at deaths caused by car)

On average 20 people drown in the canals in Amsterdam per year.
Mostly drunk man taking a piss in the canal and fall.

Trams are only allowed top speed on their own lanes, separated from other traffic.
They are not level with the street there is a little curb.
Trams rails are surrounded by a unique pavement so you have a clear visual clue you are in tram space.

If they are in the street they move slow and they are very predictable in traffic.
They ring a bell when they start moving, they ring a bell before a level intersection.
They ring there bell if they think you don't notice them.
Trams obey the traffic rules.
If you are not blind and deaf (or a tourist) and you follow the traffic rules,
you should never be surprised by a tram and you should never walk/ride your bike onto a tram rails by accident.

Getting your bicycle wheel stuck in a tram rail (and injure yourself)
That is a operator error, a skill issue.
And to me a clear indication you should ride a tram and not a bike.

Trams good and save.
Cars bad and deadly.
Tourist just dumb af.

Oh yah? but wat if u r deaf and blind?
trams r unstopable kill dozers of death.

Mynameismud
Jul 12, 2009

wesleywillis posted:

Oh yah? but wat if u r deaf and blind?
trams r unstopable kill dozers of death.

Just get yourself one of these russian dogs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iVy6pZS7lhI
They sort you out.

spechtie
Feb 24, 2024

Mynameismud posted:

Tourist just dumb af.
:hmmyes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TXv2s3YRHk

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule



Is this supposed to be a video? Also LOL at 'POV'

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Antigravitas
Dec 8, 2019

Die Rettung fuer die Landwirte:
https://divernet.com/scuba-news/health-safety/ccr-scooter-divers-were-sucked-into-dam-inlet/

e: There was an Institute wide email earlier that people should not use lead lumps as doorstops. Interesting.

Antigravitas fucked around with this message at 14:31 on Apr 25, 2024

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