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dreesemonkey
May 14, 2008
Pillbug

DangerZoneDelux posted:

The box is amazing and my kids enjoyed it as well. I have the same color embody and you can't really tell it's the gamer version plus it was hard to beat for $1438 after tax. Hopefully you asked them for a 20% coupon to order direct too

I did not initially, thank you for bringing this up! I contacted support and they credited me $478. Hard to complain about that!

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VelociBacon
Dec 8, 2009

Any recommendations for someone who is super short? Family member is 4'9", works from home, is constantly having to choose between having their feet on the floor or their arms level with the desk. Have already put in a sit/stand desk. Is this a situation where a chair with the leg/footrests might be a good idea?

Inept
Jul 8, 2003

VelociBacon posted:

Any recommendations for someone who is super short? Family member is 4'9", works from home, is constantly having to choose between having their feet on the floor or their arms level with the desk. Have already put in a sit/stand desk. Is this a situation where a chair with the leg/footrests might be a good idea?

How low does the standing desk get? There are some that can get as low as ~22.5". If you don't want to buy another desk, then yeah, try out a foot rest.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


VelociBacon posted:

Any recommendations for someone who is super short? Family member is 4'9", works from home, is constantly having to choose between having their feet on the floor or their arms level with the desk. Have already put in a sit/stand desk. Is this a situation where a chair with the leg/footrests might be a good idea?

5'2 here and been kinda struggling with similar.

Could try an Aeron A - they go as low as 14.4in for the seat height. I haven't used it personally, but I've got an aeron b which also goes pretty low (14.8 apparently) but the arm rests might be too wide spaced or something because somethin just doesn't feel quite right with for me, so I'm hesitating a bit on personally seeking out an A in case the arm rest is more of a style/shape issue, but it was definitely easier to get my feet flat.

Feels like most chairs' lower adjustment is around 16in, and I've been having a hard time finding other options with low seats but still have good other adjustments - SteelCase's Leap V2 lets the seat go down to 15.5, but then the arm rests don't seem like they adjust all that low, particularly compared to HM's Embody or Aeron.

Speaking of, the Embody has a lower adjustment cylinder that brings it down to 15in, but that needs to be special ordered, and I found with the regular 16in cylinder that it somehow felt "higher" then my Steelcase Series 1 which has a lowest adjust of 16.5.

stuker
Jul 9, 2003

DangerZoneDelux posted:

The box is amazing and my kids enjoyed it as well. I have the same color embody and you can't really tell it's the gamer version plus it was hard to beat for $1438 after tax. Hopefully you asked them for a 20% coupon to order direct too

is this valid with the spring sale prices? just picked one up and it was listed 20% off but was more like $1600 after tax, dunno if they bumped up retail ahead of the sale

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Herman Miller (UK) are having another 20% off sale until the 16th, with an extra 5% using code HMSALE5. Replaced the Steelcase Think I bought used in 2011 with a Mirra 2 with all the options (butterfly fabric back, lumbar support, seat tilt, seat depth, hard floor and carpet combo castors) and paid £830 inc. VAT and delivery.

Jabarto
Apr 7, 2007

I could do with your...assistance.
I got myself a Steelcase Amia used for 100 USD last week thanks to this thread, and I'm loving it. Thanks for all the good chair discussion goons!

Kefa
Jul 14, 2023

Thanks Ants posted:

Herman Miller (UK) are having another 20% off sale until the 16th, with an extra 5% using code HMSALE5. Replaced the Steelcase Think I bought used in 2011 with a Mirra 2 with all the options (butterfly fabric back, lumbar support, seat tilt, seat depth, hard floor and carpet combo castors) and paid £830 inc. VAT and delivery.

Mirra is great

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
Found a new non-gaming embody for $800 on CL. Are they all the same or are there different options? May cop may not.

Unsinkabear
Jun 8, 2013

Ensign, raise the beariscope.





Weirdly similar question, just found a black non-gaming embody from 2019 for $900. Is that as good a deal as I think it is?

Unsinkabear fucked around with this message at 20:14 on May 12, 2024

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
I copped. It's fine. Still figuring out the knobs. Seat is quite comfy. However LOL at paying 2 grand for this. It's mostly plastic and not particularly well made. Hail to the masters.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Maudib Arakkis posted:

I copped. It's fine. Still figuring out the knobs. Seat is quite comfy. However LOL at paying 2 grand for this. It's mostly plastic and not particularly well made. Hail to the masters.

I’ve had those complaints on HM prices. The profit margin is huge, but I guess patents/trademarks have kept competition from creating a chair as good / more comfortable than the HMs for cheaper. If there was a ~$500 Aeron or Embody, that was a good step up from office max options, I think it would sell well, but it doesn’t exist. Either you can spend 2-300 bucks on garbage, or 1000+ on HM.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



I spent $1500 on my gaming Embody and I'd do it again without batting an eye. I was really on the fence about it at first, but now I have to admit it's probably some of the best money I've ever spent.

isndl
May 2, 2012
I WON A CONTEST IN TG AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS CUSTOM TITLE
Big Chair pricing comes in part from better materials (like the padding that actually lasts 10+ years instead of two), expensive shipping (it's a massive box, not flat packed), and enterprise contracts that order a hundred units at list price because it's just another line in their budget.

That last one is particularly important, because they'll happily give you a discount if you talk with a representative at any time of the year. Fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on car insurance a chair.

CBD Corndog
Jun 21, 2009



Its also not plastic, its glass-filled nylon 6

https://www.emcoplastics.com/nylon-cast-type-6-glass-filled/

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Inner Light posted:

I’ve had those complaints on HM prices. The profit margin is huge, but I guess patents/trademarks have kept competition from creating a chair as good / more comfortable than the HMs for cheaper. If there was a ~$500 Aeron or Embody, that was a good step up from office max options, I think it would sell well, but it doesn’t exist. Either you can spend 2-300 bucks on garbage, or 1000+ on HM.
the aeron is long out of patent protection. the price of the chair is materials and labor. nice poo poo costs a lot to make.

Alarbus
Mar 31, 2010

Branch Nvidian posted:

I spent $1500 on my gaming Embody and I'd do it again without batting an eye. I was really on the fence about it at first, but now I have to admit it's probably some of the best money I've ever spent.

Seconded. I spent way too long in my old chair, but the Gesture is the best computer thing I've bought in so long.

Rawrbomb
Mar 11, 2011

rawrrrrr

Inner Light posted:

I’ve had those complaints on HM prices. The profit margin is huge, but I guess patents/trademarks have kept competition from creating a chair as good / more comfortable than the HMs for cheaper. If there was a ~$500 Aeron or Embody, that was a good step up from office max options, I think it would sell well, but it doesn’t exist. Either you can spend 2-300 bucks on garbage, or 1000+ on HM.

Are you ignoring the fact its built like a tank, and comes with a decade warranty?

Those lovely OfficeMax chairs die in like 18-24 months, and still cost 250-300~ for a decent one. Why would you want to spend 300 every 2~ years, instead of 1500, once for like 15 years?


I bought a slightly used Nightengale HD247 (Canadian chair maker, ergo chair, for fatasses like myself) from the suppliers outlet, and I've had it for 10 years now. It still feels mostly new, which is not something I've ever been able to say about a chair from a big box store. The chair new should have been like 1200 CAD, I got it for 550~. 55/year for a chair is a steal, and considering its still great I'm going to imagine its going to last another 5-10 at least.

Peachfart
Jan 21, 2017

Rawrbomb posted:

Are you ignoring the fact its built like a tank, and comes with a decade warranty?

Those lovely OfficeMax chairs die in like 18-24 months, and still cost 250-300~ for a decent one. Why would you want to spend 300 every 2~ years, instead of 1500, once for like 15 years?


I bought a slightly used Nightengale HD247 (Canadian chair maker, ergo chair, for fatasses like myself) from the suppliers outlet, and I've had it for 10 years now. It still feels mostly new, which is not something I've ever been able to say about a chair from a big box store. The chair new should have been like 1200 CAD, I got it for 550~. 55/year for a chair is a steal, and considering its still great I'm going to imagine its going to last another 5-10 at least.

Exactly. This is one of those situations where it is expensive to be poor.
And on top of that, while those cheaper chairs may feel good to sit in briefly, they will destroy your back if you are in them 8+ hours a day.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Rawrbomb posted:

Are you ignoring the fact it’s built like a tank, and comes with a decade warranty?
12 years. please respect the lore.

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Rawrbomb posted:

Are you ignoring the fact its built like a tank, and comes with a decade warranty?

Those lovely OfficeMax chairs die in like 18-24 months, and still cost 250-300~ for a decent one. Why would you want to spend 300 every 2~ years, instead of 1500, once for like 15 years?


I bought a slightly used Nightengale HD247 (Canadian chair maker, ergo chair, for fatasses like myself) from the suppliers outlet, and I've had it for 10 years now. It still feels mostly new, which is not something I've ever been able to say about a chair from a big box store. The chair new should have been like 1200 CAD, I got it for 550~. 55/year for a chair is a steal, and considering its still great I'm going to imagine its going to last another 5-10 at least.

While I feel the HM price is high, it’s basically at a fine level where it’s not completely obnoxious, and you do get value from it like the non-worthless warranty. It’s a luxury good so it’s priced like one, I get that.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Inner Light posted:

While I feel the HM price is high, it’s basically at a fine level where it’s not completely obnoxious, and you do get value from it like the non-worthless warranty. It’s a luxury good so it’s priced like one, I get that.
it’s the opposite of a luxury good.

fat bossy gerbil
Jul 1, 2007

I know the thread consensus is to drop the $1500. But what if that’s absolutely not in the cards? What will $500-600 get you in a chair when you start with the entry level models from the top manufacturers?

Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy

fat bossy gerbil posted:

I know the thread consensus is to drop the $1500. But what if that’s absolutely not in the cards? What will $500-600 get you in a chair when you start with the entry level models from the top manufacturers?

At that price range, I believe the general recommendation is to find the $1,500 chair used for $500-600 from somewhere. Certified refurbished, office overstock, etc.

Eric the Mauve
May 8, 2012

Making you happy for a buck since 199X
You can usually get an Alera Elusion off Amazon for around $250. $600 won't buy you any better a chair than that. There really is nothing worthwhile between the $250 tier and the $1250 tier.

runawayturtles
Aug 2, 2004
You can very likely get a refurb Leap or Aeron for $600.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

runawayturtles posted:

You can very likely get a refurb Leap or Aeron for $600.
as an long-time aeronhaver, the leap is a much more ergonomic chair

Rawrbomb
Mar 11, 2011

rawrrrrr

fat bossy gerbil posted:

I know the thread consensus is to drop the $1500. But what if that’s absolutely not in the cards? What will $500-600 get you in a chair when you start with the entry level models from the top manufacturers?

Like others have said, refurbs of fancier chairs. There are tons of used office places reselling old stuff, especially if you're in a larger metro area. I'm not saying don't buy the big box office chair if thats you're only realistic option, but start saving or come up with a plan to finance the fancier chair.

Also, you might be able to walk out with a show room model for a lot less (without as much fancy warranty) if you're willing to go into a place and chat up a dude.

Cockmaster
Feb 24, 2002
I had one of those Serta office chairs, and it was great for a few years until the upholstery fell apart. What are some comparable chairs that are reasonably durable?

Also, has anyone else had any experience with the OSIM gaming/massage chairs? There's on Craigslist near me for about 40% of the normal price.

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
I’m going to sit at my embody for quite a while today. We’ll see how it goes. Hail to the masters

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
Well I am giving it a good sit for the first time. Seems weird to me and not particularly adjustable. Only the whole seat itself can tilt, you can't adjust the back from the seat pan seperately? The lever on the back left that unlocks or locks the full range of tilt feels like a janky piece of garbage that can break at any moment. the 2k sticker price is a laughing stock. Is this truly the chair of the masters as was foretold?

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
I watched the video on how to adjust it on herman millers site. It says the front pan of the seat should be 3 inches from the back of your knees. At full adjustment I can't get it that close. I am basically a smol bean at 5'10''. How do the height masters deal with this mess.?

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Maudib Arakkis posted:

How do the height masters deal with this mess.?
taller casters/sliders

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.

TenementFunster posted:

taller casters/sliders

That will not bring the seat pan closer to the back of your knees at all OP.

TenementFunster
Feb 20, 2003

The Cooler King

Maudib Arakkis posted:

That will not bring the seat pan closer to the back of your knees at all OP.
sorry, you typed too much and i couldn’t read it all

Maudib Arakkis
Dec 24, 2023

LEST I GET MORE "OWNED" FOR BEING "STUPID" I WILL SAY THIS IS CATEGORICALLY UNTRUE. IT IS OFTEN PART OF DIAGNOSIS AND STAGING BUT IS ALMOST USELESS FOR TREATMENT.
Its a nice chair but 2k??? lets get real. patoot gets numb after 45 minutes BTW. Seat pan not that good.

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

Maudib Arakkis posted:

Its a nice chair but 2k??? lets get real. patoot gets numb after 45 minutes BTW. Seat pan not that good.

If you’re experiencing numbness after a relatively short period of sitting, you might be sitting poorly or legit might have a circulation issue?

Your experience doesn’t match with the norm described by the thread and that’s okay! I’m 6’3” (33” inseam) and sitting properly isn’t an issue (knees 3in from the edge of the seat does require rolling the seat shorter) and sitting in the seat for hours is great.

Find what’s right for you, buddy.

Branch Nvidian
Nov 29, 2012



I had some mild discomfort after sitting in the Embody for over an hour for the first week or so, but it turned out it was from me actually starting to sit correctly instead of being slouched down in it like some kind of gremlin. That said full on numbness is not normal and either the chair doesn't work for you, it has a broken/defective part, or needs to be better adjusted.

Oxyclean
Sep 23, 2007


Got an Aeron A, but also having a "jeeze, 2000$ chair?" moment because there's a noticeable seam along the edge of the seat frame that my leg will scrape against if I bring it close or when i'm going to sit down.

What's weird is it's not there/not noticeable on the second hand older model Aeron B I have. Dunno if they were just sloppy with my chair, but kinda worried its just a change in how they make the chair and is going to be generally present. Back when I was trying the Embody I remember one of the arm rests had a bit of a seam or what felt like excess plastic along the edge of the arm rest, which was by no means a big deal, but did kind a feel a bit sloppy for a 2 grand chair.

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Kibner
Oct 21, 2008

Acguy Supremacy
This is when you make use of that generous warranty that came with the 2k chair.

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