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ultrafilter posted:Are those actually things you can't do with a classical control system or is it just a matter of it being much more complex/expensive? You can do that all on the stovetop if you really want to monitor the rice or have the experience to tell by smell and sound and gut feeling. It’s the same case with sous vide. The point of the rice cooker is to take the task off your mental load while you prepare other dishes. Fuzzy logic expands the range of tolerance for personal error to adjust for inconsistencies in cooking conditions like water ratio or humidity; I think a lot of kitchen unitaskers are useless but I’ll defend the rice cooker’s honor to the death. I think the induction models actually do cook at a level that’s not realistically attainable otherwise but I think most people simply don’t care about their rice to that extent which is understandable. I’ve got a lot of friends who love to cook but didn’t get why they’d want one until I told them you can think of it as hiring an assistant who’ll turn out perfect rice with little more instruction than amount, time and type. And the fuzzy logic lets it make perfect rice more consistently even if you flub the inputs which is a notable feature for a machine you buy to take care of a task for you. If you eat rice even a couple days a week it justifies the cost in short order. Anyway please wishlist my game Rice Cooking Simulator 2025.
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ultrafilter posted:Are those actually things you can't do with a classical control system or is it just a matter of it being much more complex/expensive? i mean you can get a microchip that can run all that logic easily for under a dollar so presumably the difference is just in what kinda sensors it has available and how much effort the manufacturer put into programming it
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 Musk sucks but Twitters character limit is fundamentally stupid, and the original company even knew it when they first doubled the limit from 140 to 280 or whatever.Removing the limit is probably the only good thing he's done to that garbage pile
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Tiramisu posted:You can do that all on the stovetop if you really want to monitor the rice or have the experience to tell by smell and sound and gut feeling. It’s the same case with sous vide. The point of the rice cooker is to take the task off your mental load while you prepare other dishes. Fuzzy logic expands the range of tolerance for personal error to adjust for inconsistencies in cooking conditions like water ratio or humidity; I think a lot of kitchen unitaskers are useless but I’ll defend the rice cooker’s honor to the death. I think the induction models actually do cook at a level that’s not realistically attainable otherwise but I think most people simply don’t care about their rice to that extent which is understandable. but how do I wash my rice quickly and effectively, because currently my state-of-the-art is "swirling water in a bowl for like seven minutes" and it washes about one (1) cup of rice
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Tiramisu posted:So an old school rice cooker typically operates on a binary for cooking and uses a pid controller for temperature. You put in the water and turn it on; when the weight of the bowl stops changing it shuts off the heating element. The pid controller will shut the heating element on and off to maintain the boiling point without scorching the rice. Huh, that's interesting let me just look up one of these rice cookers and check prices....lmao yeah my $20 fred meyer pot working just fine. $750 united states dollars to cook loving rice what in the world
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Let's not get too deep in the weeds about that fuckin guy if we can help it Anyone playing this Rusty's Retirement game? A little farm sim that sits along the bottom of your screen. The reviews are amazing and it's only a few bucks, I might get it.
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From what I saw the new rice cooker's gimmick is that you tell it how you liked the rice it just made and if you'd prefer it more mushy or whatever next time. The device then adjusts automatically based on your preference until it learns to cook THE ULTIMATE RICE
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Ugh, PUBG is in another phase where the cheaters have defeated the anti-cheat and most matches are full of invulnerable dudes. I hate this.  I just want to hide n' shoot with random people!
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StrixNebulosa posted:Ugh, PUBG is in another phase where the cheaters have defeated the anti-cheat and most matches are full of invulnerable dudes. I hate this. Helldivers 2
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John Lee posted:but how do I wash my rice quickly and effectively, because currently my state-of-the-art is "swirling water in a bowl for like seven minutes" and it washes about one (1) cup of rice Amazon sells specially made little colanders for rice washing, they’re like twenty bucks
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RPATDO_LAMD posted:i mean you can get a microchip that can run all that logic easily for under a dollar so presumably the difference is just in what kinda sensors it has available and how much effort the manufacturer put into programming it And that might explain the price difference, or it might just be marketing at people who want something more technologically sophisticated. Controls class was a while back and I haven't spent a lot of time with the fuzzy areas of that, but I do get the basics and nothing I read about fuzzy logic in rice cookers makes any sense to me. I'm leaning pretty hard towards the latter.
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Hwurmp posted:Helldivers 2 how is an entirely different game going to fix my complaint?
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It wasn’t stupid and if I were in charge people would’ve been banned for the “I’ve just got something to say… (47/138)” nonsense
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ultrafilter posted:And that might explain the price difference, or it might just be marketing at people who want something more technologically sophisticated. They've been calling it "fuzzy logic" since literally everything was advertised as "fuzzy logic" and they just didn't bother to change it when that stopped being a fad
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StrixNebulosa posted:how is an entirely different game going to fix my complaint? it's better
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Hwurmp posted:it's better but I want to play pubg!
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Hwurmp posted:y tho I enjoy its slow paced tactical combat, how much fun it is to grab guns n' go driving, and its whole general vibe as I play dress up doll with my character.
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When my niece was very little, about three or so, she wanted to play whatever game was on at any given moment, and one time she was given a controller at the start of a game of PUBG. She fired a gun at the sun, ran into a house, and demanded to know how she could do the dishes that were piled in the sink. 
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 holy sweet christ on a cracker, why does sen's fortress have crabs in it????
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Wow, I wouldn’t think there’d be enough people playing to generate those anymore
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What is the significance of crabs there?
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HopperUK posted:She fired a gun at the sun, ran into a house, and demanded to know how she could do the dishes that were piled in the sink. To bring back immsims, we must first repeal child labor laws and allow children to work in game development. Obv kidding, that's adorable.
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Subjunctive posted:What is the significance of crabs there? Enough deaths by online players in an area will eventually generate a crab for people passing through. I dunno if anyone ever found out more specific numbers or mechanics to it.
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StrixNebulosa posted:how is an entirely different game going to fix my complaint? Single-player 'nam themed Tarkov?
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Orv posted:Enough deaths by online players in an area will eventually generate a crab for people passing through. I dunno if anyone ever found out more specific numbers or mechanics to it. It's not based on any specific number of deaths. If one player dies with 5+ humanity and then dies again before retrieving their bloodstain a white vagrant spawns in another player's game. If they leave the zone or die before killing it, it migrates to another player's game. If it migrates through 20+ different players' games it becomes red. There's also a different kind of vagrant that spawns if you abandon certain items on the ground and they become a Drift Item Bag which migrates to other players' games. If a Drift Item Bag goes through enough other players without being looted it becomes a Good Vagrant which runs away from you instead of fighting you and eventually disappears like the titanite lizards, at which point it migrates to another player's game.
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And if you kill the red variant, it drops a Twin Humanities. There's also a different one for certain dropped items that acts more like a crystal lizard (i.e. doesn't attack, just runs away). edit. didn't see that in the first pass when typing.
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StrixNebulosa posted:
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John Lee posted:but how do I wash my rice quickly and effectively, because currently my state-of-the-art is "swirling water in a bowl for like seven minutes" and it washes about one (1) cup of rice Use a couple rinses of just enough water. You only need to swirl it a couple times since the point is to remove the excess starch from milling (really only applies to white rice as such) so the rice separates better and doesn’t produce gooey clumps. I just swirl it in the rice cooker bowl and pour off the starchy water through my fingers. Washing should only take you like a minute in total. I also wouldn’t pay $750 for a rice cooker but induction starts at $300 which isn’t a huge jump from the fuzzy logic offerings. I also can’t speak to what ai adds if anything and am pretty skeptical of ai applications and smart home devices in general but the zojirushi fuzzy logic cookers are very consistent and high quality and have been in circulation for a very long time. Cuckoo also makes quality rice cookers and their comparable offerings are less expensive.
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I can't believe we're discussing this in the Steam thread, but hey, steaming is a process you cook rice with, so I guess it works. About washing rice: that's not something you do with American rice, correct? The way I understand it, most American rice is already washed and also enriched with some sort of vitamin powder that would just pointlessly go to waste if it were washed off. But maybe there's still a benefit?
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there is a rice thread btw: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4049129FutureCop posted:I can't believe we're discussing this in the Steam thread, but hey, steaming is a process you cook rice with, so I guess it works.
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FutureCop posted:I can't believe we're discussing this in the Steam thread, but hey, steaming is a process you cook rice with, so I guess it works. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1356670/?snr=1_5_9__205
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FutureCop posted:steaming is a process you cook rice with drat, and we just changed the thread title too. Uh... So given that it's the Earth Appreciation Festival on Steam, how's Terra Nil doing? I remember liking the concept but hearing that it was relatively light on content compared to what was expected. But I see that the team's been doing post-launch support for the last year?
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Illusory Wall is here to teach you everything you need to know about Vagrants.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xqg6FeRe0I4DS1 has a lot of weird experimental online mechanics. I like to think of them as the Dark Souls version of World Tendency. Good Vagrants being born from discarded items especially feels like more of a DeS thing considering that's the only game with a limited inventory.
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The main time I saw vagrants was during the time that the Dark Souls subreddits started a campaign for players to come back and cause a resurgence in the online co-op and PVP so new players can experience how the online felt in its prime, though I have yet to see the dark red ones. Fun times!
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StrixNebulosa posted:
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:there is a rice thread btw: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=4049129 thank you very much for the rice discussion and for dropping the link to the rice thread, i am buying a new rice cooker for gaming talk, manor lords is cool and ive been enjoying it on gamepass, is the steam version different/better? i know sometimes gamepass is behind
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