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Kristi Noem didn’t just kill her VP shot, there’s no way she will ever win another open election again. She was already term-limited as SD Governor, and like DeSantis her mindset was clearly up-or-out. The next election she’d have to compete in is the 2026 midterm, but I doubt she’ll attempt to run for any office. I would have loved to be a fly in the room as the first article was published. Even in the crazy campaigns of 2024, there’s no way this story doesn’t kill any political strategy you had.
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I grew up on a farm, and I'd say it instilled more reasons not to pull this kind of poo poo. Where rural/western specific media touched this kind of stuff, it lionized the rancher who took care of their herd in dangerous weather at personal risk. Conversely, I distinctly remember repeat performances of a epic poem (in the sense that it took about 15 minutes to perform orally) at trail rides, etc., regarding the ostracization of a cowboy shooting a horse that continuously bested him. Outside of all the normal attachment to animals (and you can grow to appreciate an individual cow while also acknowledging someone is going to eat it someday), each animal is also an economic investment. You can't just go out an shoot an animal without throwing away money. While there were kids who talked about going out shooting stray cats, my memory is they were the maladjusted kids who'd get a bit of side-eye. What you do have rurally is more access to to guns and animals, so your regularly occurring psychopaths have access to do something Iike this. For Noem specificly, it reads to me as the intersection of psychopath, access, and wealth.
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wait does she have a real farm, or just another rich people """"""""farm""""" like those cosplay (rich people) farmers and trad wifes on social media?
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Apr 28, 2024 23:04
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PhazonLink posted:wait does she have a real farm, or just another rich people """"""""farm""""" like those cosplay (rich people) farmers and trad wifes on social media? looks like she runs a hunting lodge and restaurant on the family farm she inherited
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Apr 28, 2024 23:08
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single-mode fiber posted:Also because violence isn't just a means to end for fascism, it's an end unto itself. right, exactly this is why this story got published: it falls into her fascist blind spot that lionizes everything horrible about this story as if it were a virtue
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Apr 28, 2024 23:09
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Captain_Maclaine posted:I don't think he even killed the rabbit, just like waved a paddle at it and it eventually swam off? Depending on whose narrative you believe, he either gently splashed water with the paddle to encourage it to swim away or bonked it with the paddle in a fit of abject terror and/or hatred. The one photograph we have doesn't make it clear which happened. It is not disputed that both of them survived the encounter
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PhazonLink posted:some R poo poo posters are trying to say libs care more about dog health than a My favorite part of this whole ordeal is the conservative talking heads haven't figured out how to even spin this yet, so you've got a lot of chuds opening declaring everyone shoots dogs, only weak fuckers can't shoot their dogs openly on messageboards looking like insane people. dOnT yOu KnOw ThIs iS FaRmInG. This poo poo is roiling through their party.
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Senate Cum Dump posted:looks like she runs a hunting lodge and restaurant on the family farm she inherited Is goat on the menu? What am I talking about, she’ll put on the menu and state it was a pet goat she killed herded.
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Love it. Kristi's Web or Babe except instead of saving a pig she's killing dogs
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Arc Light posted:Came here to post this powerful work of photojournalism. PhazonLink posted:how the hell have i never seen this pic in the god drat almost 8 years I'm home! https://imgur.com/a/X8SiewJ AlternateNu fucked around with this message at 01:56 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Senate Cum Dump posted:looks like she runs a hunting lodge and restaurant on the family farm she inherited As far as I can tell, she sold off her stake in the family businesses in 2016 or so, though she kept some of the land she inherited. Nobody's really bothered to investigate Kristi's "ranch", but some old hands in local politics reporting have cast some doubt on it: https://listen.sdpb.org/2022-08-04/hold-on-to-your-hat-for-a-wild-ride-in-governors-race quote:The timing of “our ranch was saved” and the beautiful visuals leave the impression that she was riding on the one that was saved. She wasn’t. I don’t know where she was, but it wasn’t on the Noem place near Castlewood. The ad it's talking about is this one: https://twitter.com/KristiNoem/status/1542148626616664070 Moreover, in a 2022 profile in Elysian magazine called her a "former rancher" with no apparent pushback from her. She's been caught lying about her farming history on the campaign trail before, and she's someone who bought a horse just to use it for campaign appearances, so it wouldn't be shocking if she was keeping a couple of animals for fun and exaggerating it into a "ranch" for campaign purposes, or spending some time hanging out at her siblings' ranches for fun. It's not like there's anyone to run a ranch these days; she's busy with her political career, her husband is busy running an insurance company, and she's been caught pulling enough nepotism strings to get jobs for her kids that we know the kids probably aren't doing too much ranching either.
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Euphoriaphone posted:Kristi Noem didn’t just kill her VP shot, there’s no way she will ever win another open election again. She was already term-limited as SD Governor, and like DeSantis her mindset was clearly up-or-out. The next election she’d have to compete in is the 2026 midterm, but I doubt she’ll attempt to run for any office. I don't think she can realistically be appointed to any public facing position either, at least for a few years. Anyone who appoints her is going to get a ton of side eye for appointing the dog murderer. Best bet is that she gets involved with lobbying somehow, unless Fox can figure out a way to spin this and she can become a talking head. Or she just retires completely.
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I have a lot of family who are farmers and they love their dogs and would be appalled by Noem’s behavior here if they ever learned about it through the RWM machine. Just not as appalled as they are with Biden’s criminality and/or socialism.
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I don't think the GOP base gives a poo poo about puppy murder. it can very easily be framed as making tough decisions to protect her family etc i think it's a coinflip whether Trump himself think it's bad publicity or loves it because he likes cruelty and hates pets. idk guess we'll see if he comes to her defense
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Conceptually I think it would be pretty easy for the right wing to cut bait with her due to misogyny being a de facto core value of theirs, i.e. she's no longer "one of the good ones" and they can just let regular old woman-hating do the rest of the legwork for them.
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the best part is the next token to replace her is even more insane
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Senate Cum Dump posted:I don't think the GOP base gives a poo poo about puppy murder. it can very easily be framed as making tough decisions to protect her family etc Sorry no hate to break it to you but yes even the evil lizard conservative people love their animals. Back when I did non-profit work with an animal sanctuary/rights org, we got plenty of donations from people who had otherwise atrocious politics. Her political career is dead. She may not have to worry about people turning on her in a general because demonrats still bad but she's not winning her next primary.
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DarkHorse posted:I do know a few farmers and this is not how sane people behave. And if they do have to shoot an animal, they make sure they have enough to do the job. My spouse grew up on a far with some racist rear end Canadian hillbillies, and she was suitably horrified at the idea that you'd euthanize an animal without having extra rounds in the chamber or on your person. Let alone just start shooting healthy animals because they annoy you. Caros fucked around with this message at 05:25 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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Apr 29, 2024 05:16
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Kristi Noem has been full of poo poo about her "farming experience" for a long fuckin time and as a South Dakotan I'm so glad she has decided to get clowned on by everyone ever I know that there was a farm at one point, though, because it played an important role in her father dying in an extremely stupid way (and then her proceeding to make up poo poo about his death to support removing the estate tax)
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this is probably the only other time you've heard of her, but kristi noem is also responsible for this gem of an anti-meth campaign: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7LVcI-DQdYA
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FWIW Trump people are telling reporters that they also don't know wtf she is trying to do https://twitter.com/BenjySarlin/status/1784903642866130956
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She's stumped the trump.
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Senate Cum Dump posted:i think it's a coinflip whether Trump himself think it's bad publicity or loves it because he likes cruelty and hates pets. idk guess we'll see if he comes to her defense President Trump Signs Federal Animal Cruelty Bill Into Law www.nytimes.com - Mon, 25 Nov 2019 posted:The bill, called the Preventing Animal Cruelty and Torture Act, makes intentional acts of cruelty to animals federal crimes carrying penalties of up to seven years in prison. State of the animals under the Trump administration: a year of highs and lows www.humanesociety.org posted:… Under the Trump regime, there were no accounts of dogs biting White House visitors as there were under the Obama or Biden regimes. Nobody got sent upstate to live on a farm. Sure, people may make fun of the way he speaks about dogs, but actions are louder than words. mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 17:09 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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But does he actually have a dog. Besides Chris Christie.
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(intentionally fires entire shotgun magazine into my dog & goat with 66% accuracy) alright. thats fine. heres what i think happened, [1/82]
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mawarannahr posted:Is there any evidence of Donald Trump hating pets significantly more than other presidents? He has been pictured embracing dogs very many times, and furthermore, his record demonstrates opposition to animal cruelty. Trump didn't have a dog, which is a very easy way to guarantee no bites.
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mawarannahr posted:Is there any evidence of Donald Trump hating pets significantly more than other presidents? He has been pictured embracing dogs very many times, and furthermore, his record demonstrates opposition to animal cruelty. i mean that seems like a pretty mixed list at best. even one of the positive things is reversing a rule chance that they themselves made.
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mawarannahr posted:Is there any evidence of Donald Trump hating pets significantly more than other presidents? He has been pictured embracing dogs very many times, and furthermore, his record demonstrates opposition to animal cruelty. It's mostly just because he uses "like a dog" as an idiom for every negative thing in the world. His ex-wife also wrote in her memoir decades ago that he hated her dog and hated dogs in general. He also said he wasn't getting a dog when he became President because he didn't want one. There isn't really any evidence he hates pets in general more than other presidents, but he does specifically dislike dogs (publicly at least) more than other recent presidents.
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Xiahou Dun posted:Trump didn't have a dog, which is a very easy way to guarantee no bites. One way to be a responsible dog owner is to realize when an environment is too chaotic, and you aren’t capable of being present and active enough in a dog’s life to guide them, to know you shouldn’t have a dog right now, or maybe even ever! Deciding on keeping dogs around who are continuously biting people isn’t doing a good job of being a responsible dog owner. It’s ridiculous how bad of a dog owner Biden is, just on the standard that if you described a dog owner continually keeping dogs that keep biting people, nobody on earth would advise you to keep that status quo, unless politics get involved.
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We can't all be as responsible dog owners as Putin, I suppose. What happened to that dog he got to upset Merkel anyway?
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selec posted:One way to be a responsible dog owner is to realize when an environment is too chaotic, and you aren’t capable of being present and active enough in a dog’s life to guide them, to know you shouldn’t have a dog right now, or maybe even ever! Agree, although to be extremely and excessively fair, at least one of the dogs were a gift from James Biden. (Terrible gift.) Xiahou Dun posted:Trump didn't have a dog, which is a very easy way to guarantee no bites. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:His ex-wife also wrote in her memoir decades ago that he hated her dog and hated dogs in general. He also said he wasn't getting a dog when he became President because he didn't want one. Without reading the memoir, that seems like it could be a little unreliable of an account for multiple reasons, and yeah it doesn't really show he hates pets in general. He does have multiple pictures in close contact with dogs, which he in no way had to do.
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RBA Starblade posted:We can't all be as responsible dog owners as Putin, I suppose. To be fair to Putin, he didn't get the dog to upset Merkel. He brought the dog to a meeting with Merkel and made her sit next to it to upset her. He got the dog as a gift from a Russian general in the 90's and the Merkel incident was at least 15 years ago, so the dog is either dead or living in secret as the oldest dog in the world. Edit: Just googled to check my memory and he got the dog in the year 2000 - not the 90's - but everything else is correct and the dog has been dead since 2014. Leon Trotsky 2012 fucked around with this message at 17:26 on Apr 29, 2024 |
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trump is a germaphobe and dogs arent exactly known for being clean, i can see him not liking dogs. but i think even people who dont like dogs would be opposed to shooting a puppy, for the most part.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:To be fair to Putin, he didn't get the dog to upset Merkel. He brought the dog to a meeting with Merkel and made her sit next to it to upset her. Oh, I always heard it the other way around. Also it didn't occur to me that was over a decade ago now lol gently caress
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its good to have healthy skepticism , but this is just contrarianism.
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There's a difference between not really caring for pets and thinking that death is the proper way to deal with disciplinary problems in a puppy. Even if Trump doesn't particularly care himself, even rapid conservatives like their dogs and probably dogs in general and that story isn't going to make her popular. Anyone believing that this was a winning move is deep into the "conservatives are actually orcs" worldview.
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fool of sound posted:There's a difference between not really caring for pets and thinking that death is the proper way to deal with disciplinary problems in a puppy. Even if Trump doesn't particularly care himself, even rapid conservatives like their dogs and probably dogs in general and that story isn't going to make her popular. Anyone believing that this was a winning move is deep into the "conservatives are actually orcs" worldview. The crowd consensus would agree https://twitter.com/dhume/status/1784278152585281618
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fool of sound posted:There's a difference between not really caring for pets and thinking that death is the proper way to deal with disciplinary problems in a puppy. Even if Trump doesn't particularly care himself, even rapid conservatives like their dogs and probably dogs in general and that story isn't going to make her popular. Anyone believing that this was a winning move is deep into the "conservatives are actually orcs" worldview. Even Freep has a bunch of people calling out Noem. There are of course still ghouls that defend her, but anything that causes division in those rabid hate-elementals is pretty god drat bad.
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