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WoodrowSkillson posted:they had much more vague demands then "end divestment in Israel" and "stop supporting the genocide." BLM developed a very clearly articulated point: vote for Joe Biden in 2020
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i say swears online posted:university of texas popping off again, riot cops making arrests assuming its not against the rules to post this local news live stream of whats going on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXaXa0h1tHY
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Apr 29, 2024 20:59
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PawParole posted:less that they had no coherent demands to begin with, its more that they didn't have the discipline to keep out the type of person who thought posting black squares on instagram or smoking weed at a protest was activism also good media discipline like that funny video
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Apr 29, 2024 21:00
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dont talk to cops, agitators, or people with clipboards and bullhorns telling you to "tone it down"
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Apr 29, 2024 21:05
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500 bad dogs posted:arent you a troop Was 4 years ago. If the angle you’re going for is “you’re not allowed to do activism because you’re not worthy because of some personal life failing” lemme just stop you there and let you know I don’t value your opinion
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Apr 29, 2024 21:24
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lest we forget stalin was a troop
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Apr 29, 2024 21:26
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Butter Activities posted:Was 4 years ago. If the angle you’re going for is “you’re not allowed to do activism because you’re not worthy because of some personal life failing” lemme just stop you there and let you know I don’t value your opinion lol
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Apr 29, 2024 21:26
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Loucks posted:“Extremist” doesn’t mean anything other than “position that makes the defenders of the status quo uncomfortable” anyway. gently caress that dumb bullshit. Extremism is when you think Jan 6 was very funny. This is also the correct opinion
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Apr 29, 2024 21:27
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troops of course are welcome into the movement. cops are too as long as they agree to become nullos first
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Apr 29, 2024 21:28
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Al! posted:troops of course are welcome into the movement. cops are too as long as they agree to become nullos first The Dorner option
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Apr 29, 2024 21:28
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Butter Activities posted:Was 4 years ago. If the angle you’re going for is “you’re not allowed to do activism because you’re not worthy because of some personal life failing” lemme just stop you there and let you know I don’t value your opinion troop mad
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Apr 29, 2024 21:30
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I wonder why guys who do IT for defense contractors and other giant faceless evil corporations always have strong opinions on who is “allowed” to be a leftist.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:32
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lol
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Apr 29, 2024 21:33
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id advise you to simply shake it off at this point
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Apr 29, 2024 21:34
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bedpan posted:BLM developed a very clearly articulated point: vote for Joe Biden in 2020 No that was the Lincoln project
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Apr 29, 2024 21:36
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Capitalism is a cannibalistic cult that forces everyone to have a taste or die. Every one of us need to work together to put that poo poo behind us, especially troops.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:37
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Not cops though. FTP
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Apr 29, 2024 21:39
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cops are the one group you never let in imo
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Apr 29, 2024 21:41
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troops are definitely allowed to be leftists and we're definitely allowed to make fun of them for getting tricked into signing up to murder babies. that's the deal
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Apr 29, 2024 21:41
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:troops are definitely allowed to be leftists and we're definitely allowed to make fun of them for getting tricked into signing up to murder babies. that's the deal simple as
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Apr 29, 2024 21:41
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troops can claim to be a part of the movement but should never be even remotely near anything resembling decision making power. no one should trust them any more than a cop. feeling bad about their choice to go murder people for a living does not make them worthy of leadership.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:42
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:troops are definitely allowed to be leftists and we're definitely allowed to make fun of them for getting tricked into signing up to murder babies. that's the deal 
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Apr 29, 2024 21:44
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"worthy" lol
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Apr 29, 2024 21:44
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horthy of leadership
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Apr 29, 2024 21:44
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Choosing leaders based on moral judgements of worth, in true dialectical fashion
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Apr 29, 2024 21:46
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Univ of Washington's camp is up today and they call for cutting ties with Boeing. Nice
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Apr 29, 2024 21:47
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:Choosing leaders based on moral judgements of worth, in true dialectical fashion lol if they put former troops or cops in charge of media relations at one of the encampments, that will end well
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Apr 29, 2024 21:47
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Most troops are heavily recruited right out of high school (and typically in poorer high schools) and is deliberately presented as the only option for many kids to escape poverty. I don't know how many people out there would love to be judged for the decisions they made at 18, even without the presence of constant propaganda in their faces. I sure as hell wouldn't.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:48
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BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:troops are definitely allowed to be leftists and we're definitely allowed to make fun of them for getting tricked into signing up to murder babies. that's the deal The middle path
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Apr 29, 2024 21:48
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PawParole posted:less that they had no coherent demands to begin with, its more that they didn't have the discipline to keep out the type of person who thought posting black squares on instagram or smoking weed at a protest was activism took a few tries in these last 14 years but seems that they got to learn a bit: more than a few of these camps appear to have a degree of vanguard or central organization
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Apr 29, 2024 21:49
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err posted:Univ of Washington's camp is up today and they call for cutting ties with Boeing. gently caress yeah Not a ton of people out yet, but things are just getting started.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:49
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Ace Transmuter posted:Most troops are heavily recruited right out of high school (and typically in poorer high schools) and is deliberately presented as the only option for many kids to escape poverty. I don't know how many people out there would love to be judged for the decisions they made at 18, even without the presence of constant propaganda in their faces. I sure as hell wouldn't. tough poo poo, plenty of poor people, in fact nearly all of them, did not choose to help murder over a million people.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:50
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Ace Transmuter posted:Most troops are heavily recruited right out of high school (and typically in poorer high schools) and is deliberately presented as the only option for many kids to escape poverty. I don't know how many people out there would love to be judged for the decisions they made at 18, even without the presence of constant propaganda in their faces. I sure as hell wouldn't. I thought this wasn't true anymore and at some point the class makeup changed to the petit-bourgeoisie & multi-gen military family.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:50
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Ace Transmuter posted:Most troops are heavily recruited right out of high school (and typically in poorer high schools) and is deliberately presented as the only option for many kids to escape poverty. I don't know how many people out there would love to be judged for the decisions they made at 18, even without the presence of constant propaganda in their faces. I sure as hell wouldn't. BRAKE FOR MOOSE posted:that's the deal
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Apr 29, 2024 21:50
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dead gay comedy forums posted:took a few tries in these last 14 years but seems that they got to learn a bit: more than a few of these camps appear to have a degree of vanguard or central organization Bevin’s book seems to have made a lot of inroads thank Christ Stuff was a mess from what I remember in 2021 with all sorts of weirdo libertarians and hoteps taking poo poo over and leading crowds into kettles
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Apr 29, 2024 21:51
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Butter Activities posted:Breivik's book seems to have made a lot of inroads thank Christ
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Apr 29, 2024 21:53
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In Training posted:I thought this wasn't true anymore and at some point the class makeup changed to the petit-bourgeoisie & multi-gen military family. It’s a mix of both. Also as wages and benefits have been crushed in the private sector for non-college educated people the military is a relatively accessible ladder to the middle class now more by virtue of having military benefits be cut a lot slower than others. This is discussion that should be moved to a different thread though and extremely unproductive when it comes to activism.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:54
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Son of Thunderbeast posted:gently caress yeah UW/Western/Evergreen have been calling for decades to cut ties with Boeing. They are too connected now, Boeing has its own credential and research service in UW for employees. https://www.pce.uw.edu/boeing and https://www.barc.uw.edu/ Literally integrating and funneling education with a weapons manufacturer. Dystopian stuff.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:55
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In Training posted:I thought this wasn't true anymore and at some point the class makeup changed to the petit-bourgeoisie & multi-gen military family. Well if that's the case then I'm talking out of my rear end from past experience, which wouldn't be the first time. I am an old, maybe they do poo poo different now. That said buying into propaganda when your brain is still developing and you're never presented with any alternatives (or in fact, told that those alternatives don't exist for you, specifically) isn't exactly the same moral decision as signing up to murder babies. Folks who realize what a horrible decision they've made only after the fact and get out at the first opportunity are worth embracing. I'd've been fine wecloming Pat Tillman into the fold if Cheney hadn't had him murked.
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Apr 29, 2024 21:56
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lol left vets still have the same troop brain that gets all worked up when they are disrespected
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