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CommieGIR posted:Even if the US openly objected and stopped supplying bombs, Israel is more than capable and produces its own weapons and wiping out the Palestinians is, at this point, a key goal of the Israeli government. We could at least stop giving them missile defense systems. Let them reap what they sow. Shooting down 99% of incoming projectiles is pretty good US aid, imho.
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3 DONG HORSE posted:We could at least stop giving them missile defense systems. Let them reap what they sow. Shooting down 99% of incoming projectiles is pretty good US aid, imho. Can we just yank their registration key for the firing software?
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May 1, 2024 16:37
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3 DONG HORSE posted:We could at least stop giving them missile defense systems. Let them reap what they sow. Shooting down 99% of incoming projectiles is pretty good US aid, imho. Hm, yes, people are pissed at Biden for not stopping Israel from killing civilians in Palestine, we can solve this problem by encouraging and enabling Iran to kill civilians in Israel, people will love that
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May 1, 2024 16:37
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InsertPotPun posted:yeah i'm not doing the obama era "i don't LOVE obama..." thing. biden good. he's done good things, been nice, been funny, and seems to hate the job while still actually doing it. and, best of all, by "he/him/biden" i mean him and his team who are all competent whether it's making the old man look aware, forcing him to say the right things, or just having his back. so gently caress it, no more "biden sucks but...". i'm voting for biden AND against trump. I’m kind of in the same boat anymore, there’s a lot of poo poo Biden could do that would make life better but after getting to understand the machinations of the political and legal system in this stupid loving country over the last 10 years I’m personally seeing a guy who is earnestly trying to do the right thing while keeping the pissed-off, burned-bridges list at a minimum. Honestly, rather than “gently caress [person]” it’s “gently caress All of Congress”. Congress is a complete loving poo poo show and can’t get anything done, and that’s what’s killing the country. I’m still loving pissed that the PPP loan forgiveness horseshit was abused by multiple members of Congress and the GOP while they crow about blocking/cutting entitlements. I’m pissed that shithole states like Nebraska and Texas were able to sue and stop stuff like the student loan forgiveness programs and women’s loving healthcare thanks to gerrymandering and a corrupt Senate installing a corrupt SCOTUS. My ire is towards those useless fucks and I’d gladly torch the constitution and extinguish the flames with my piss to abolish the Senate and SCOTUS.
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May 1, 2024 16:38
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I'm not going to get into specifics, but I feel that "I won't vote miquetoast mainstream politician who will likely maintain the status quo or make small positive changes and if you do you are an imperialist" is a feature of every election in every liberal democracy that I've ever been aware of. Its the "oh, you probably haven't heard of them" of voting. I've grit my teeth and voted for the "least worst" option in every election since I was about 25, although admittedly, my least worst option (The SNP) have been pretty good. That's not to say that the positions people are taking aren't highly principled, they're just not unique to this election cycle. The stakes, however, are higher. We're not looking at Coke and Diet Coke differences in governance. Disco Pope fucked around with this message at 16:43 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 16:39
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3 DONG HORSE posted:We could at least stop giving them missile defense systems. Let them reap what they sow. Shooting down 99% of incoming projectiles is pretty good US aid, imho. Personally I'd like for us to stop mingling training for our police forces with the IDF but WELP
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May 1, 2024 16:39
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steinrokkan posted:Hm, yes, people are pissed at Biden for not stopping Israel from killing civilians in Palestine, we can solve this problem by encouraging and enabling Iran to kill civilians in Israel, people will love that I can tell you from the perspective of anti-Bibi groups Biden is moving in the right direction (being a much more critical ally) and the interesting thing to me is how Qatar, Egypt and KSA stay engaged here.
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May 1, 2024 16:41
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StrangersInTheNight posted:
I feel like the media needs to take some of the blame for this. The whole Israel is pure and Palestine are filthy terrorists has been going on for decades.
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May 1, 2024 16:43
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All he has to do is say 'Israel, you are doing a bad' and keep supplying weapons - and for the type of person who only knew about Palestine in this election cycle, that will probably be enough
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May 1, 2024 16:43
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steinrokkan posted:Hm, yes, people are pissed at Biden for not stopping Israel from killing civilians in Palestine, we can solve this problem by encouraging and enabling Iran to kill civilians in Israel, people will love that I don't think these are the same things but you do you
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May 1, 2024 16:47
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single-issue voters are the real dumbest people on earth
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May 1, 2024 16:49
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StrangersInTheNight posted:All he has to do is say 'Israel, you are doing a bad' and keep supplying weapons - and for the type of person who only knew about Palestine in this election cycle, that will probably be enough
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May 1, 2024 16:49
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FuturePastNow posted:single-issue voters are the real dumbest people on earth are you sure? sure they are unbelievably loving dumb but then swing voters exist.
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May 1, 2024 16:50
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I'm a vibes based voter and aviators + ice cream is a mega vibe and I'm here for it. There are others like me out there so you best hope Biden doesn't have diabetes.
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May 1, 2024 16:50
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Gee, I wonder what the source of this might be. https://www.politico.com/news/2024/05/01/2024-election-poll-workers-00154953 quote:Threats, harassment of election workers have risen, poll shows
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May 1, 2024 16:50
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I feel like the US would elect a guy in fursuit before they would elect an anti israel president. "israel good" has been drilled into american heads for decades from all directions.
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May 1, 2024 16:52
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Accipiter posted:Gee, I wonder what the source of this might be.
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May 1, 2024 16:52
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Isn''t Trump supposed to go to his son's graduation today?
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May 1, 2024 16:53
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Isn''t Trump supposed to go to his son's graduation today? No? Graduation is May 17
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May 1, 2024 16:53
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big nipples big life posted:are you sure? sure they are unbelievably loving dumb but then swing voters exist. Genuine Swing voters are loving dumb but at least are willing to change their opinions even if they change it based on if they saw a pretty butterfly or not. Single Issue Voters are often willing to abandon everything else they claim to believe in for the single issue they vote for and often willing to support contradictory things. (Like how pro-abortion single issue voters refuse every single option to actually reduce abortions.)
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May 1, 2024 16:53
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pixaal posted:Can we just yank their registration key for the firing software? pretty sure a suggestion pops up like when you've used WinRAR for six years for free except it's "we're glad you're enjoying our product, please take a moment to consider a donation of not shooting someone" then a bored operator clicks "Maybe later"
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May 1, 2024 16:54
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ImpAtom posted:Genuine Swing voters are loving dumb but at least are willing to change their opinions even if they change it based on if they saw a pretty butterfly or not. Good point, I'm going to change my vote. Oh nooooooooo
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May 1, 2024 16:55
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kazil posted:No? Oh. I thought I read the judge was giving him a Wednesday off for that. Oops.
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May 1, 2024 16:55
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Oh. I thought I read the judge was giving him a Wednesday off for that. Oops. LOLTrump: court is closed every Wednesday.
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May 1, 2024 16:57
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John Wick of Dogs posted:It's our bombs killing these people. That Biden is giving Israel, for free, like the presidents before him. It's our UN veto that is preventing Israel from having any culpability for its crimes. Biden can stop it, and chooses not to. Vote Trump then, because obviously he'll do better than Biden.  Or protest vote, which might as well be a vote for Trump. Or just shut up, because this is the thread to lol at Trump as a coping mechanism to hide our fears that he'll get into power again and his cronies will eliminate half the people in this thread either passively or actively? That might be cool too.  For what it's worth, I'm not sure anyone actually disagrees with your analysis, but "vote against Biden because I/P" is a pretty goddamn hot take for this thread.
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May 1, 2024 16:58
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3 DONG HORSE posted:Oh. I thought I read the judge was giving him a Wednesday off for that. Oops. Wednesdays are non-trial days. Merchan originally scheduled the second gag order hearing today, but changed it because Trump has a rally or something May 17 is a day off from court so Trump is forced to sit through graduation and May 24 is off from court because one of the juror wanted a 4 day weekend for memorial day
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May 1, 2024 16:58
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beerinator posted:LOLTrump: court is closed every Wednesday. kazil posted:Wednesdays are non-trial days. Merchan originally scheduled the second gag order hearing today, but changed it because Trump has a rally or something thank you 
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May 1, 2024 16:58
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funeral home DJ posted:I’m kind of in the same boat anymore, there’s a lot of poo poo Biden could do that would make life better but after getting to understand the machinations of the political and legal system in this stupid loving country over the last 10 years I’m personally seeing a guy who is earnestly trying to do the right thing while keeping the pissed-off, burned-bridges list at a minimum. aw jeez are those clowns in congress at it….again??!
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May 1, 2024 16:58
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Tai posted:I feel like the media needs to take some of the blame for this. The whole Israel is pure and Palestine are filthy terrorists has been going on for decades. I generally hate to bring up the term 'manufactured consent', but this is definitely a case of it - the media isn't necessarily 'in cahoots' with the govt in that there's people mustache-twirling and saying hey let's join up with the govt to mislead the American people, but they have let the govt set the tone for how we talk about our relationship with both and followed suit, mimicking the govt position and refusing to challenge it. by following the lead of the govt in how they refer to and treat Palestine vs Israel, the media has reinforced the govt's messaging as the dominant narrative in the US and thus shored up support for the US policy in Israel with the wider American public. So yeah, a lot of Americans really do think Palestinians = Hamas, because there's a giant machine to make sure they think that way. I am so so SO glad this is changing but my heart gets a little crushed worrying it'll just be an election issue and forgotten about as soon as they feel they've 'owned' Biden about this StrangersInTheNight fucked around with this message at 17:12 on May 1, 2024 |
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May 1, 2024 17:00
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Epsilon Moonshade posted:Vote Trump then, because obviously he'll do better than Biden.
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May 1, 2024 17:02
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kazil posted:No? that's really funny because now he has to go, which he absolutely wasn't planning on doing. Always call his bluf
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May 1, 2024 17:05
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Disco Pope posted:I'm not going to get into specifics, but I feel that "I won't vote miquetoast mainstream politician who will likely maintain the status quo or make small positive changes and if you do you are an imperialist" is a feature of every election in every liberal democracy that I've ever been aware of. Its the "oh, you probably haven't heard of them" of voting. I've grit my teeth and voted for the "least worst" option in every election since I was about 25, although admittedly, my least worst option (The SNP) have been pretty good. instead we have one side that promises to kick you in the balls as hard as possible for no reason and the other side just has to sit back and promise not to kick you in the balls. maybe. sometimes. because what are you gonna do: vote to get kicked in the balls? loving nevada had socialist win for the first time and the entire democratic party turned everything they had against them harder than they've ever done against a republican. because democrats have gotten lazy because the only other option is a kick in the balls.
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May 1, 2024 17:05
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Steadiman posted:that's really funny because now he has to go, which he absolutely wasn't planning on doing. Always call his bluf It's going to be the first high school graduation he's ever attended that isn't his own. He's going to love being at an event that isn't about him!
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May 1, 2024 17:16
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Tricky Ed posted:It's going to be the first high school graduation he's ever attended that isn't his own. He's going to love being at an event that isn't about him! Maybe Barron is valedictorian and will dedicate his speech to his loving father
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May 1, 2024 17:20
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He's gonna make it about him. I wonder if the other students hate Trump as much as most kids.
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May 1, 2024 17:21
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pro starcraft loser posted:He's gonna make it about him. They have to bring a ladder to school if they wanna kiss his rear end to curry favor with his father. An effort in futility, of course. Trump doesn’t give a poo poo.
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May 1, 2024 17:26
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pro starcraft loser posted:He's gonna make it about him. Yeah, I wonder if there will be protests by the students. Or, maybe, "F TRUMP" writing on their graduation hats.
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May 1, 2024 17:29
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Tricky Ed posted:It's going to be the first high school graduation he's ever attended that isn't his own. He's going to love being at an event that isn't about him! Trump graduated high school?
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May 1, 2024 17:29
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Nessus posted:Tbf it would seem wise to threaten to cut off everything but the missile defense so you can then say that’s next, but what do I know? They know that would never happen because if it did, they would end up using their nukes to keep the rest of the middle east from trying to wipe them off the planet.
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May 1, 2024 17:31
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kazil posted:Maybe Barron is valedictorian and will dedicate his speech to his loving father Well his mom’s a genius and his dad gives good brain, so there’s a good chance it could happen!
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May 1, 2024 17:31
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