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Okay so the plastic Custodian Guard kit has all of its swords in the right hands and all of its shields in the left hand. It also models the vexilla in the right hand. This makes it easy to model Vexilla Guy in a Custodian Guard squad as holding a vexilla and a shield, and difficult to model Vexilla Guy as holding a vexilla and a sword. In 30k, "vexilla and shield" is an illegal build -- Vexilla Guy gets vexilla and either a sentinel blade or or a power weapon, but can't take a shield. Is there like a commonly accepted kitbash for modeling Vexilla Guy in 30k Custodian Guard squads, or does everybody deal with scraping fingers off plastic with a knife / having a hand that's on backwards if you look too closely / just having a guy with the wrong loadout? (Also why the gently caress did they model it this way, these guys launched with Burning of Prospero and even back then you couldn't take a vexilla and a shield in 30k custodian guard squads Jesus Christ.) Stephenls fucked around with this message at 02:24 on May 1, 2024 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 06:27 |
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The rules team and the models team don’t talk to each other nearly as much as they should
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# ? May 1, 2024 04:57 |
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The Demilich posted:Crosspost from the 40k thread: https://beyondthetabletop.com/true-scale-terminators/ Might not be exactly what you're looking for but if they've tried to keep everything in scale the Cataphractii will be half a head shorter than the new Leviathan termies.
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# ? May 1, 2024 13:24 |
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Z the IVth posted:https://beyondthetabletop.com/true-scale-terminators/ The old IF cata praetor they just replaced semi recently was huge, though - like if you put one of the AoD praetors in terminator armor with all the added bulk that implies. Very different scale from the regular Cata. I've heard the replacement is closer to normal size but I haven't seen it yet.
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# ? May 1, 2024 13:30 |
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SkyeAuroline posted:The old IF cata praetor they just replaced semi recently was huge, though - like if you put one of the AoD praetors in terminator armor with all the added bulk that implies. Very different scale from the regular Cata. I've heard the replacement is closer to normal size but I haven't seen it yet. Yeah I heard the scaling on the older stuff was all over the place with stuff like Palatine blades being absolute midgets so that would track. They seem a lot more consistent with scaling these days though. The new MkVI plastic Praetors are comparable to the old cataphractii in bulk and height but definitely not as big as the new guys. Keeping the same enlarged scale but putting them in terminator suits would probably result in someone comparable to the new leviathan termies.
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# ? May 1, 2024 13:41 |
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There's a generation between these two, but here's a Leviathan one and one from the Dark Vengeance era. (The smaller has one-part arms, with an attached shoulder pad.)
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# ? May 1, 2024 13:55 |
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The reason I asked is because my best friend is remaking OG Space Hulk but with updated models for us, and I was leaning into maybe making an IF team for it. The special release Imperial Fists Legion Terminator Praetors look great and can act as the sergeant fit me, but I don't want to pair it with the Leviathan terminators (I prefer their updated scaling) if said Praetor is comparatively tiny.
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# ? May 1, 2024 19:53 |
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The Praetor will be as big as, if not significantly larger than, the Indomitus Terminators.
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# ? May 2, 2024 00:25 |
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going off comparisons to beakies even the "small" one that's currently available is fairly close to the new indomitus kits. less heft but the eye level appears to be very similar, so the big boy should appear suitably large and in charge
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# ? May 2, 2024 06:18 |
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Stephenls posted:In 30k, "vexilla and shield" is an illegal build It's legal in 40K though and that's what matters.
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# ? May 7, 2024 21:05 |
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The real answer is that no one should play custodes
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# ? May 7, 2024 22:53 |
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Also true.
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# ? May 8, 2024 01:14 |
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Stephenls posted:Okay so the plastic Custodian Guard kit has all of its swords in the right hands and all of its shields in the left hand. It also models the vexilla in the right hand. This makes it easy to model Vexilla Guy in a Custodian Guard squad as holding a vexilla and a shield, and difficult to model Vexilla Guy as holding a vexilla and a sword. In 30k, "vexilla and shield" is an illegal build -- Vexilla Guy gets vexilla and either a sentinel blade or or a power weapon, but can't take a shield. The Blade Champion has an option for a blade in their left hand, though not a full size sword. Would that help?
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# ? May 8, 2024 11:12 |
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Safety Factor posted:The real answer is that no one should play custodes
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# ? May 8, 2024 16:34 |
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Plastic Mechanicum let's go. (Apparently we'll have to wait a while for plastic Vorax.) Stephenls fucked around with this message at 19:24 on May 18, 2024 |
# ? May 18, 2024 19:16 |
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It all looks so good. Everything is translating very well into plastic though the thallax are a bit chunkier than before.
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# ? May 18, 2024 20:35 |
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Safety Factor posted:
The tech thralls are a straight-up upgrade, the shambling poses really sell them as almost cyber-zombies compared to the otherwise pretty geared up current ones. The thanatar is the stand out though. It was just an all time banger of a tanky robot sculpt before and it's translated perfectly. I'd never noticed what was up with the plasma mortar before. It's a weird shape but now it's clear that it's an array of plasma weapons pointed in at some sort of grav control thingy. It's such a cool, industrial, Star Wars looking weapon, you can easily visualise it clanking into a firing position and charging up.
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# ? May 18, 2024 20:54 |
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Stephenls posted:Plastic Mechanicum let's go. Oh no. Oh no I'm going to have to have to spend money
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# ? May 18, 2024 20:57 |
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god that stuff looks so much better than 40k admech, and outside of the magos I don’t know if any of it is usable.
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# ? May 18, 2024 20:58 |
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It is not. Also the Magos is not.
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# ? May 18, 2024 21:14 |
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Gotta say this whole "Every unit released in plastic fits into every army" scheme GW is running with Heresy seems to be working out pretty well.
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# ? May 18, 2024 21:15 |
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Seriously. There are also options for Marines and doctrine for Solar Aux that'll let the Castellax and Thallax in without getting flagged as allies if you want to get stupid with something like Pride of the Legion.
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# ? May 18, 2024 21:19 |
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moths posted:It is not. eh, you can field it as a dominus or manipulus pretty easily
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# ? May 18, 2024 21:19 |
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Yeah, that's true. It's just a matter of replacing the the Lance and I don't think Conversion Beamers made it to 40k.
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# ? May 18, 2024 21:26 |
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Hmm. Seems like I went from "I don't really care about tech-thralls" to "I'm nostalgic for the old tech-thrall heads" in about three and a half hours. (Not nostalgic enough to actually order the things in resin, tho.)
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# ? May 18, 2024 22:15 |
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moths posted:I don't think Conversion Beamers made it to 40k. Techmarines used to be able to take them. Votann have them now.
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# ? May 18, 2024 23:01 |
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Mechanicum knights still have access to them, either loyalist or chaos flavors
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# ? May 18, 2024 23:13 |
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# ? May 19, 2024 21:14 |
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Hahahahahaha
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# ? May 19, 2024 23:51 |
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This is great and so true. I love AdMech but Mechanicum look so better. I'm so happy about that group of plastic Mechanicum in particular because I wanted two Castellax/6 Thallax for my Iron Warriors and 20 Tech-thralls for the troops tax on an allied detachment so I can bring my Moiraxes with my Knights. This has all of that with a bonus Conveyor so I just need to pick up the box plus the Archmagos/Thanatar and I'm set for both groups.
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# ? May 20, 2024 00:11 |
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I absolutely love the jacked Thallax.
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# ? May 20, 2024 00:21 |
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LMAO
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# ? May 20, 2024 00:39 |
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# ? May 24, 2024 06:27 |
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Shield-Captain mockup using the body of the Custodian Warden Shield-Captain but the cape and pauldrons from the Custodian Guard kit Shield-Captain build (I kinda just don't like what the over-the-pauldrons cape from the Custodian Wardens kit does to the silhouette), plus a head from the now no-longer-available Stormcast Sequitors. EDIT: Alternate cape option: Leaning towards the first one, but I'll let it rest overnight before making a decision. Stephenls fucked around with this message at 09:10 on May 23, 2024 |
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