[Campus Protests] of course they deserve contempt and hostility, they're british

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Lib and let die: Aug 26, 2004

post COVID posted:

these kids fuckin rule

# ? May 2, 2024 03:51

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# ? Jun 10, 2024 11:30

FirstnameLastname: Jul 10, 2022

mawarannahr posted:

evergreen has a history of being fairly based
Crowd flips patrol car after Evergreen show

i hope they flipped it to that one dead prez song

# ? May 2, 2024 03:52

Pussy Quipped: Jan 29, 2009

post COVID posted:

these kids fuckin rule

# ? May 2, 2024 03:54

Pomeroy: Apr 20, 2020; Can't post for 12 days!

Riot cops forming up to the east of the UCLA encampment, seem to be getting ready to escalate

# ? May 2, 2024 04:02

TheLemonOfIchabod: Aug 26, 2008

Is there a livestream for ucla?

# ? May 2, 2024 04:03

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

Smythe posted:

staffer tweet. awful

imagining trump saying "just askin..." lmfao

# ? May 2, 2024 04:05

Noise Complaint: Sep 27, 2004; Who could be scared of a Jeffrey?

TheLemonOfIchabod posted:

Is there a livestream for ucla?

https://twitch.tv/cinemarxism

This guy is there and has been pretty consistent keeping the stream going.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:06

TheLemonOfIchabod: Aug 26, 2008

Noise Complaint posted:

https://twitch.tv/cinemarxism

This guy is there and has been pretty consistent keeping the stream going.

Thank you

# ? May 2, 2024 04:06

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

here are the list of definitions pertaining to the bill passed today, whose text is under the list:

quote:

Calling for, aiding, or justifying the killing or harming of Jews in the name of a radical ideology or an extremist view of religion.

Making mendacious, dehumanizing, demonizing, or stereotypical allegations about Jews as such or the power of Jews as collective � such as, especially but not exclusively, the myth about a world Jewish conspiracy or of Jews controlling the media, economy, government or other societal institutions.

Accusing Jews as a people of being responsible for real or imagined wrongdoing committed by a single Jewish person or group, or even for acts committed by non-Jews.

Denying the fact, scope, mechanisms (e.g. gas chambers) or intentionality of the genocide of the Jewish people at the hands of National Socialist Germany and its supporters and accomplices during World War II (the Holocaust

Accusing the Jews as a people, or Israel as a state, of inventing or exaggerating the Holocaust.

Accusing Jewish citizens of being more loyal to Israel, or to the alleged priorities of Jews worldwide, than to the interests of their own nations.

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

Using the symbols and images associated with classic antisemitism (e.g., claims of Jews killing Jesus or blood libel) to characterize Israel or Israelis.

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel.

the bill:
H. R. 6090 (Introduced-in-House)

www.congress.gov posted:

118th CONGRESS
1st Session

H. R. 6090

To provide for the consideration of a definition of antisemitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of Federal antidiscrimination laws concerning education programs or activities, and for other purposes.

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IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES

Mr. Lawler (for himself, Mr. Gottheimer, Mr. Miller of Ohio, Mr. Moskowitz, Mr. Kean of New Jersey, Ms. Jackson Lee, Mr. Fitzpatrick, Ms. Stefanik, Mr. Kustoff, Mr. Norcross, and Ms. Brown) introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary

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A BILL

To provide for the consideration of a definition of antisemitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of Federal antidiscrimination laws concerning education programs or activities, and for other purposes.

Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,

SECTION 1. Short title.

This Act may be cited as the �Antisemitism Awareness Act of 2023�.

SEC. 2. Sense of Congress.

It is the sense of Congress that�

(1) title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000d et seq.), prohibits discrimination on the basis of race, color, and national origin in programs and activities receiving Federal financial assistance;

(2) while such title does not cover discrimination based solely on religion, individuals who face discrimination based on actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics do not lose protection under such title for also being members of a group that share a common religion;

(3) discrimination against Jews may give rise to a violation of such title when the discrimination is based on race, color, or national origin, which can include discrimination based on actual or perceived shared ancestry or ethnic characteristics;

(4) it is the policy of the United States to enforce such title against prohibited forms of discrimination rooted in antisemitism as vigorously as against all other forms of discrimination prohibited by such title; and

(5) as noted in the U.S. National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism issued by the White House on May 25, 2023, it is critical to�

(A) increase awareness and understanding of antisemitism, including its threat to America;

(B) improve safety and security for Jewish communities;

(C) reverse the normalization of antisemitism and counter antisemitic discrimination; and

(D) expand communication and collaboration between communities.

SEC. 3. Findings.

Congress finds the following:

(1) Antisemitism is on the rise in the United States and is impacting Jewish students in K�12 schools, colleges, and universities.

(2) The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (referred to in this Act as the �IHRA�) Working Definition of Antisemitism is a vital tool which helps individuals understand and identify the various manifestations of antisemitism.

(3) On December 11, 2019, Executive Order 13899 extended protections against discrimination under the Civil Rights Act of 1964 to individuals subjected to antisemitism on college and university campuses and tasked Federal agencies to consider the IHRA Working Definition of Antisemitism when enforcing title VI of such Act.

(4) Since 2018, the Department of Education has used the IHRA Working Definition of Antisemitism when investigating violations of that title VI.

(5) The use of alternative definitions of antisemitism impairs enforcement efforts by adding multiple standards and may fail to identify many of the modern manifestations of antisemitism.

(6) The White House released the first-ever United States National Strategy to Counter Antisemitism on May 25, 2023, making clear that the fight against this hate is a national, bipartisan priority that must be successfully conducted through a whole-of-government-and-society approach.

SEC. 4. Definitions.

For purposes of this Act, the term �definition of antisemitism��

(1) means the definition of antisemitism adopted on May 26, 2016, by the IHRA, of which the United States is a member, which definition has been adopted by the Department of State; and

(2) includes the �[c]ontemporary examples of antisemitism� identified in the IHRA definition.

SEC. 5. Rule of construction for title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964.

In reviewing, investigating, or deciding whether there has been a violation of title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (42 U.S.C. 2000d et seq.) on the basis of race, color, or national origin, based on an individual�s actual or perceived shared Jewish ancestry or Jewish ethnic characteristics, the Department of Education shall take into consideration the definition of antisemitism as part of the Department�s assessment of whether the practice was motivated by antisemitic intent.

SEC. 6. Other rules of construction.

(a) General rule of construction.�Nothing in this Act shall be construed�

(1) to expand the authority of the Secretary of Education;

(2) to alter the standards pursuant to which the Department of Education makes a determination that harassing conduct amounts to actionable discrimination; or

(3) to diminish or infringe upon the rights protected under any other provision of law that is in effect as of the date of enactment of this Act.

(b) Constitutional protections.�Nothing in this Act shall be construed to diminish or infringe upon any right protected under the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States.

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the action today:

H.Res.1173 - Providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 615) to prohibit the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Agriculture from prohibiting the use of lead ammunition or tackle on certain Federal land or water under the jurisdiction of the Secretary of the Interior and the Secretary of Agriculture, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 2925) to amend the Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act of 1993 to provide for security of tenure for use of mining claims for ancillary activities, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 3195) to rescind Public Land Order 7917, to reinstate mineral leases and permits in the Superior National Forest, to ensure timely review of Mine Plans of Operations, and for other purposes; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 764) to require the Secretary of the Interior to reissue regulations removing the gray wolf from the list of endangered and threatened wildlife under the Endangered Species Act of 1973; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 3397) to require the Director of the Bureau of Land Management to withdraw a rule of the Bureau of Land Management relating to conservation and landscape health; providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 6285) to ratify and approve all authorizations, permits, verifications, extensions, biological opinions, incidental take statements, and any other approvals or orders issued pursuant to Federal law necessary for the establishment and administration of the Coastal Plain oil and gas leasing program, and for other purposes; and providing for consideration of the bill (H.R. 6090) to provide for the consideration of a definition of antisemitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of Federal antidiscrimination laws concerning education programs or activities, and for other purposes. posted:

Sec. 6. Upon adoption of this resolution it shall be in order to consider in the House the bill (H.R. 6090) to provide for the consideration of a definition of antisemitism set forth by the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance for the enforcement of Federal antidiscrimination laws concerning education programs or activities, and for other purposes. All points of order against consideration of the bill are waived. The bill shall be considered as read. All points of order against provisions in the bill are waived. The previous question shall be considered as ordered on the bill and on any amendment thereto to final passage without intervening motion except: (1) one hour of debate equally divided and controlled by the chair and ranking minority member of the Committee on the Judiciary or their respective designees; and (2) one motion to recommit.

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JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

most of that is fine theoretically, actually -- not sure how theyre going to twist things of course

# ? May 2, 2024 04:20

Pomeroy: Apr 20, 2020; Can't post for 12 days!

More cops coming in through the buildings to get around the demonstrators supporting the encampment.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:21

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

i guess its going to come down to comparing israel to nazis and supporting revolution to end the genocide

# ? May 2, 2024 04:22

StashAugustine: Mar 24, 2013; Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

We don't expect other Western democracies to not commit horrific atrocities so its really unfair to demand that of Israel

# ? May 2, 2024 04:26

madmatt112: Jul 11, 2016; Is that a cat in your pants, or are you just a lonely excuse for an adult?

unbelievable stuff happening right now, people. feels like we keep running to slam into the door over and over again but every time we do it gets a little looser in its frame. it�s gotta give one of these times. the door being of course capitalism and empire oppression.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:27

mawarannahr: May 21, 2019

JainDoh posted:

most of that is fine theoretically, actually -- not sure how theyre going to twist things of course

I think it's fair to say it has its flaws

quote:

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

not to mention several of the clauses could be used to silence some Israeli voices who claim that Hitler didn't really want to do the Holocaust until a mufti tricked him into it

# ? May 2, 2024 04:28

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

JainDoh posted:

most of that is fine theoretically, actually -- not sure how theyre going to twist things of course

saying israel must be destroyed, is racist, or has policies like those of nazi germany are all anti-semitism now

# ? May 2, 2024 04:31

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

to be clear i don't think it's fine, i just think we can actually do this without directly calling them nazis despite being very comfortable just doing that since c-town. not being able to call for revolution or the end of israel wont be doable though

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Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1785869267134734650

# ? May 2, 2024 04:33

The Oldest Man: Jul 28, 2003

Even making the comparison between the two genocidal states is antisemitism

# ? May 2, 2024 04:34

Strep Vote: May 5, 2004; أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

The Oldest Man posted:

saying israel must be destroyed, is racist, or has policies like those of nazi germany are all anti-semitism now

God will judge me and Congress can eat hummus from my rear end in a top hat.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:35

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

so you gotta figure the lib organizers have read the bill and are coaching people on not saying intifada etc rn

# ? May 2, 2024 04:36

Owlbear Camus: Jan 3, 2013; Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?

Every one of them is going to be applied disingenuously but three are on their face absurd:

Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor.

So no criticism of the nation-state law, which is explicit de jure racism?

Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation.

Who's standards apply? The received wisdom of liberalism, or does the speaker have to answer a quiz to make sure they're being fair to everyone?

Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis.

Any discussion of a genocide is going to almost invariably lead to comparing and contrasting with the Nazis as the benchmark of industrial genocide. Like... they're doing literal einsatzgruppen poo poo right now.

Kind of giving up the game with this one "my 'don't compare israel's crimes to the nazis' shirt is raising questions answered by the shirt."

As draconian as this poo poo is getting, I'm trying to see it as cause for hope.

As the great political thinker Kars Nemek said, tyranny is unnatural, authority is brittle, and oppression is the mask of fear.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:36

Pomeroy: Apr 20, 2020; Can't post for 12 days!

Second Hand Meat Mouth posted:

https://twitter.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1785869267134734650

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6c2opJreGk/?igsh=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

# ? May 2, 2024 04:37

HallelujahLee: May 3, 2009

may allah strike down the lovely fascist apartheid state and its demonic burger masters

# ? May 2, 2024 04:37

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

not sure how much more strongly i can urge people to show up to protests masked to avoid the adl harassing you with this for life goddamnit

# ? May 2, 2024 04:39

Dreylad: Jun 19, 2001

Good Citizen posted:

https://x.com/elivalley/status/1785801842158358611?s=46

apparently we can stop worrying about everything because joe biden is a genestealer and the day of ascension is nigh

# ? May 2, 2024 04:39

Strep Vote: May 5, 2004; أنا أحب حليب الشوكولاتة

Now we see the vaunted free speech of the United States is revealed as simply a smokescreen for fascism and naked barbarity; it has withered and died, if it ever really lived.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:40

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

at least we are going to have an easier time with dual power with all of gen z on our side

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RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

passive resistance requires being arrested unfortunately. any good bail funds to donate to?

# ? May 2, 2024 04:41

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

RadiRoot posted:

passive resistance requires being arrested unfortunately. any good bail funds to donate to?

https://campusbailfunds.com

# ? May 2, 2024 04:41

Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

JainDoh posted:

https://campusbailfunds.com

it's this op

# ? May 2, 2024 04:42

RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

JainDoh posted:

https://campusbailfunds.com

gently caress yeah. thank you.

# ? May 2, 2024 04:43

Pink Mist: Sep 28, 2021

JainDoh posted:

most of that is fine theoretically, actually -- not sure how theyre going to twist things of course

probably to ban the words genocide/fascism in this context

# ? May 2, 2024 04:43

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

yeah im just tired and scanned it poorly

e: aforementioned snipers
https://x.com/PplsCityCouncil/status/1785869267134734650

JainDoh has issued a correction as of 04:48 on May 2, 2024

# ? May 2, 2024 04:44

LGD: Sep 25, 2004

interesting thing (though obv it�s because they�re nazis, public opinion doesn�t matter, and data is somewhat old):

https://x.com/StyledApe/status/1785746494512861188

# ? May 2, 2024 04:48

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

https://x.com/jeremotographs/status/1785872802110935538

# ? May 2, 2024 04:49

Second Hand Meat Mouth: Sep 12, 2001

https://twitter.com/vv1lder/status/1785853255807008829

# ? May 2, 2024 04:55

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

I used to have buddies that worked at a bagel shop and they would bring me bagels like 20lb at a time

# ? May 2, 2024 04:57

JainDoh: Nov 5, 2002

cali and ny specifically using literally everyone in the state for each protest is going to really get weird when these pigs are exhausted from showing up at their 9th straight

e: https://x.com/medickimw/status/1785832102606393653
https://x.com/JonnyPeltz/status/1785866323517636663

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World War Mammories: Aug 25, 2006

went to dc this evening, marched to the gwu encampment. pretty heartening.

JainDoh posted:

I used to have buddies that worked at a bagel shop and they would bring me bagels like 20lb at a time

sounds like heaven

# ? May 2, 2024 05:07

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