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I wonder if there'll be some new tiresome discourse centered around Izutsumi like every other new character that isn't immediately friendly to the party
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:10 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:59 |
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Raserys posted:I wonder if there'll be some new tiresome discourse centered around Izutsumi like every other new character that isn't immediately friendly to the party cat
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:16 |
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Marcille is my favorite lesbian niece and I will never forgive that awful ninja girl.
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:17 |
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Teriyaki Koinku posted:I think someone here posted a picture from the Delicious in Dungeon expo, so I have a problem/question I need to ask: the event's on every day from 4/27 through to next Monday, so you could probably go any day between now and then and see if they either have same-day tickets or will let you book ahead? Solamachi's got a lot of fun stuff in the complex - you could go up the Skytree or to the aquarium etc. so it wouldn't be a wasted trip even if the expo's a bust.
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:45 |
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Raserys posted:I wonder if there'll be some new tiresome discourse centered around Izutsumi like every other new character that isn't immediately friendly to the party Thinking about it, I'd rather have the discourse play out rather than having some folks post supplemental material stuff about Izutsumi. I get it's information not in the show, but supplemental comics tend to immediately showcase that this person is actually a friendly person. There was a lot of initial distrust around Kabru at first, but it got defanged when people posted those comics about his party members and how he was super charming.
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:50 |
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Yeah that kinda piss me off, like all of that stuff came way later too.
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:52 |
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no issue with people being salty about a character thats intentionally introduced as non-friendly to the pov characters. part of the fun is the story convincing the audience to like them imo
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# ? May 2, 2024 17:54 |
There were a few more supplemental "What If" chapters that came out recently from the bluray. Keep your eyes peeled for them.
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:26 |
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amigolupus posted:Thinking about it, I'd rather have the discourse play out rather than having some folks post supplemental material stuff about Izutsumi. I get it's information not in the show, but supplemental comics tend to immediately showcase that this person is actually a friendly person. There was a lot of initial distrust around Kabru at first, but it got defanged when people posted those comics about his party members and how he was super charming. I mean, him chumming it up with his party members doesn’t mean he isn’t on some sinister poo poo. Have you seen how most of the psychos in Golden Kamuy chum it up?
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:35 |
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golden bubble posted:
Every time I see a new side comic I have a new character I never really cared about before but now love chrome line fucked around with this message at 18:58 on May 2, 2024 |
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yeah i mean the first impression you get of izutsumi is that she's selfish, annoying, and will kill any member of the gang when it suits her. this also happens to be the middle impression and the last impression
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# ? May 2, 2024 18:56 |
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chrome line posted:Every time I see a new side comic I have a new character I never really cared about before but now love Yeah, the ninja ladies rule now (they also ruled before).
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# ? May 2, 2024 19:11 |
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Dungeon Smallshi
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# ? May 2, 2024 19:20 |
Raserys posted:I wonder if there'll be some new tiresome discourse centered around Izutsumi like every other new character that isn't immediately friendly to the party On one hand it would be very annoying, on the other hand people have been hyping this cat like a introverted person at a house party and seeing it suddenly make a hard left turn would be very funny. Like my guys this is not a teenaged girl with cat ears and a mysteriously attached tail, this is an Actual Cat with human body proportions.
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# ? May 2, 2024 20:01 |
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Whitenoise Poster posted:Dungeon Smallshi
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# ? May 2, 2024 20:23 |
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So many people default to thinking the giant Laios is Chilchuck's image of him because 'Short Vs Tall!' while forgetting that Chil has worked with Tallmen for pretty much his entire career. Laios's stature is something completely normal to Chilchuck and wouldn't stand out in his mind at all.
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# ? May 2, 2024 20:37 |
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If Kabru's party ran into a shapeshifter, Kabru would be able to figure out everyone else's copy pretty easily. But how would they handle the fakes based on Kabru's memories?
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:08 |
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:10 |
golden bubble posted:If Kabru's party ran into a shapeshifter, Kabru would be able to figure out everyone else's copy pretty easily. But how would they handle the fakes based on Kabru's memories? Debatably that is what happened with the bandits who made them look like fish, so we have already seen it from his side. Honestly I think that the shapeshifters would be a lot more intense than the originals. Kabru senses motivations and connections from people and files them away. The shapshifters would probably be largely an encyclopedic list of every flaw and desire that someone has. It would be really funny if they were all physically messed up though since he focuses so much on the small details, and then one of them comes out with no teeth or something.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:15 |
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She's literally the very worst aspects of both teenage girls and cats in one form. It's delightful.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:17 |
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Shapeshifters would flee from Kuro, so it’s a moot point. Kuro could probably smell the difference between fakes and real people; his own copies wouldn’t be able to speak clearly because he doesn’t know the local language very well.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:21 |
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The Shapeshifter Kuro from Mickbell's memories just keeps barking "I wuff you!".
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:26 |
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Pureauthor posted:So many people default to thinking the giant Laios is Chilchuck's image of him because 'Short Vs Tall!' while forgetting that Chil has worked with Tallmen for pretty much his entire career. Laios's stature is something completely normal to Chilchuck and wouldn't stand out in his mind at all. I don't know if it's because I speed read and missed it or simply forgot but I'm having fun discovering how much of Marcille's first impression of Laois is colored by the fact that she was told he looked like Falin and her extremely disagreeing.
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:33 |
Shapeshifter Kabru from Rin's perspective looks like one of Marcille's drama heroes, roses included
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# ? May 2, 2024 21:33 |
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Some nice key art of best girl.
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# ? May 2, 2024 23:12 |
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that's izutsumi
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:11 |
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CuddleCryptid posted:On one hand it would be very annoying, on the other hand people have been hyping this cat like a introverted person at a house party and seeing it suddenly make a hard left turn would be very funny. I think one of the appeals of Izutsumi is that Kui really turns her unique worldbuilding lens to 11 on her. To paraphrase some other goon's comment, she translates the concept of 'teenage catgirl' into "surly young adult with a chip on their shoulder" with "poorly socialized cat that doesn't particularly like you" and effortlessly balances the two throughout in her behavior and character growth. Like, Kui's great with a lot of her other worldbuilding interpretations i.e. the orcs, elves, dwarves, etc, but there are other similar interpretations out there in other works, whereas Izutsumi really feels unique to Kui and Dungeon Meshi. Plus it's pretty obvious Kui gets a kick drawing a human-shaped cat reacting to things.
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Terrifying Effigies posted:I think one of the appeals of Izutsumi is that Kui really turns her unique worldbuilding lens to 11 on her. To paraphrase some other goon's comment, she translates the concept of 'teenage catgirl' into "surly young adult with a chip on their shoulder" with "poorly socialized cat that doesn't particularly like you" and effortlessly balances the two throughout in her behavior and character growth. Oh, don't get me wrong, I love that surly kitty. But that's because I've read her entire character arc and saw her develop; I wasn't waiting a week between snippets to argue about whether she's an angel or a demon.
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:27 |
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Its a good thing for Kui that I enjoy watching a human shaped cat reacting to things.
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:27 |
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The hand grab in the snow was really obvious in animation form huh? :3
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:32 |
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Izutsumi is the first anime catgirl close enough to a true cat to activate the part of your brain that makes you say "kitty!" every time you see the cat that has lived in your house for years.
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:42 |
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drat, that means next week is Izutsumi + Hag / Nightmare. :3 Which means... MORE DOGGYLAIOS.
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# ? May 3, 2024 00:46 |
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Synthbuttrange posted:The hand grab in the snow was really obvious in animation form huh? :3 Yeah, I feel like it'd be hard to miss (the way I missed it in the manga). I don't think anyone has remarked on it over in the anime thread (yet).
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# ? May 3, 2024 01:00 |
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Quinton posted:Yeah, I feel like it'd be hard to miss (the way I missed it in the manga). I don't think anyone has remarked on it over in the anime thread (yet). Probably loses a little of the intrigue for the reveal to happen the same episode so people don't have to spend a week wondering whose hand that was.
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# ? May 3, 2024 04:38 |
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Interesting choice to show Marcille's hair at the start of the episode, when it was covered or conveniently cropped out in manga so you couldn't just flip back to check it. Doesn't really matter, but it's a little thing I noticed.
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# ? May 3, 2024 06:36 |
Man I think I'm just going to post here so i don't have to OPSEC every post in the anime thread.Synthbuttrange posted:The hand grab in the snow was really obvious in animation form huh? :3 Yeah, they had to show it but I do with it was more in the background instead of appearing super obvious. But it is what it is, along with how the shapeshifter's voices really give the game away.
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# ? May 3, 2024 14:51 |
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I think part of it is that in the anime the camera pans as the party grabs hands, so it's easier to understand the continuity of where everyone is and in what order, making stand out all the more when the camera cuts to a new angle and shows a fifth person behind Marcille grabbing her hand. Of course shortly afterwards the positioning gets all mixed up once the shapeshifter copies appear (there's a Marcille holding Laios's other hand, but then she backs off when the lights turn on and two Chilchucks take her place) so it's easy to forget about that hand or dismiss it as part of the illusion. It also probably helps that since it's in color it's more immediately obvious that it doesn't match with any party member's hand MiracleFlare fucked around with this message at 16:40 on May 3, 2024 |
# ? May 3, 2024 16:33 |
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It's certainly much more subtle as a single panel in the middle of the page in the manga... And, as logger pointed out, if you were reading it as published, the reveal doesn't happen until the next issue a month later. I read it after the manga had wrapped up and still managed to miss it.
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# ? May 3, 2024 17:21 |
Same, I didn't see it when I read it despite the immediate follow up. You aren't really looking for things that aren't supposed to be there, and even if you did then you'd probably think it was part of the Shapeshifter game too.
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# ? May 3, 2024 17:40 |
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# ? Jun 6, 2024 05:59 |
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I thought it was obvious when I read the manga, but my brain only see flaws. That's my deal. I am also not scared to flip pages back and forth when I notice poo poo.
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# ? May 3, 2024 17:53 |