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Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



is the state department still pulling an "uhh uhh we don't know what they mean by 'get the gently caress out. leave.' we're trying to get clarification."

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Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Owlbear Camus posted:

is the state department still pulling an "uhh uhh we don't know what they mean by 'get the gently caress out. leave.' we're trying to get clarification."

The article mentions that they sent a 2 star general to negotiate the pull out. Before that when a whistleblower sent a letter to congress they said that the two state department stooges that came to the base were making it sound like they were negotiating for them to stick around which the soldiers found extremely stupid because everyone was extremely antagonistic with them. And now the russians are sharing an air base with them.

In contrast it appears Chad has been way more stern with their demands and the US has already flown out half the troops they had there.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

dead gay comedy forums posted:

as such, financial metrics that aim to provide a quality outlook have to be adjusted to actually account for that, which require a far more comprehensive analysis that considers supply, current production, capacity, etc. It's not merely about being cheaper, because those prices can be simply nominal for all intents and purposes (especially when there's central planning involved) and they can be way less. Then to gauge all of that into parity with some other economy? Depending on those structural differences, the numbers game can become ridiculous. What truly matters is the why of this type of analysis being done in the first place instead of a material comparison of productive forces.

On one aspect basically all the think tankers truly do believe that money is the only true measurement of success especially when it's been constantly reinforced by education and basically everybody around them repeating the same thing. It also definitely makes it easier to be a chickenhawk when the assumption of commodity fetishism remains unexamined.

It cannot also be discounted that an analysis that concludes in stalemate or defeat invites disciplinary action through loss of privileges and social standing. No attempt at any materialism can be done because it will not only show that even by simplistic bean counting methods there's not that much margin of superiority outside of the air force; an attempt at materialism will inevitably highlight asymmetries that robs the jingoist of any easy emotional appeals such as missile boats and land-based missile platforms that matter a lot more because the US grand strategy is to fight the PRC literally off their home shores.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
The US spent so much time fighting insurgents that it forgot 'what it means to actually fight a war,' a US vet in Ukraine says

An American veteran who fought in Ukraine said the US "kind of forgot what it means to actually fight a war."

He said US training has long been heavily focused on fighting insurgents in places like Iraq and Afghanistan.

He said his own training wouldn't have prepared him for a war like Ukraine.

The veteran said that some Ukrainian soldiers who were trained in the UK told him that when they asked how to get through Russia's vast minefields, they were told to just go around them.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

Vampire Six posted:


(Click thumbnail to open video)
British Defence Minister Grant Shapps is attempting to impress with the French designed Scalp/Storm Shadow missiles, promising to increase production.

What do we actually see:

- 1 old man working with hand tools

- A small facility geared towards very low production numbers.

- This is artisanal production not industrial.

If this is his answer to the problem then he still doesn't understand how real wars are won.

@Slavyangrad
(from t.me/VampireSix/2799, via tgsa)

incredible handcrafted cruise missiles :britain:

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!
French design and British production methods sounds like a winner.

Maybe they should hand them to Italian generals next.

fatelvis
Mar 21, 2010

Cerebral Bore posted:

how it really works is that when you first pick a door you have a 1/3 chance of being right and a 2/3 chance of being wrong, and then monty hall has to open a door with a goat behind it

this means that if you picked a door with a goat behind it then monty has no choice but to open the other door with a goat behind it, which means that in the 2/3 of cases where you picked wrong switching doors will guarantee that you get the car

Adding my thanks that I think I finally understand this now.

Sanlav
Feb 10, 2020

We'll Meet Again
Which chess dimension is it where you simultaneously

Deplete your ability to project force

Lose Proxy War(s)

Use paramilitary orgs and brownshirts to manage growing dissent at home

Provoke remaining allies by ridiculing them and threatening sanctions if they don't acquiesce to The Foreign Policy

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/russian-troops-enter-base-housing-us-military-niger-us-official-says-2024-05-02/


quote:


https://www.reuters.com
Russian troops enter base housing US military in Niger, US official says
Phil Stewart, Idrees Ali
6 - 7 minutes

Item 3 of 3 Nigeriens gather in a street to protest against the U.S. military presence, in Niamey, Niger April 13, 2024. REUTERS/Mahamadou Hamidou/File Photo

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WASHINGTON, May 2 (Reuters) - Russian military personnel have entered an air base in Niger that is hosting U.S. troops, a senior U.S. defense official told Reuters, a move that follows a decision by Niger's junta to expel U.S. forces.

The military officers ruling the West African nation have told the U.S. to withdraw its nearly 1,000 military personnel from the country, which until a coup last year had been a key partner for Washington's fight against insurgents who have killed thousands of people and displaced millions more.

A senior U.S. defense official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said Russian forces were not mingling with U.S. troops but were using a separate hangar at Airbase 101, which is next to Diori Hamani International Airport in Niamey, Niger's capital.

The move by Russia's military, which Reuters was the first to report, puts U.S. and Russian troops in close proximity at a time when the nations' military and diplomatic rivalry is increasingly acrimonious over the conflict in Ukraine.

It also raises questions about the fate of U.S. installations in the country following a withdrawal.

"(The situation) is not great but in the short-term manageable," the official said.

Asked about the Reuters report, U.S. Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin played down any risk to American troops or the chance that Russian troops might get close to U.S. military hardware.

"The Russians are in a separate compound and don't have access to U.S. forces or access to our equipment," Austin told a press conference in Honolulu.

"I'm always focused on the safety and protection of our troops ... But right now, I don't see a significant issue here in terms of our force protection."

The Nigerien and Russian embassies in Washington did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

The U.S. and its allies have been forced to move troops out of a number of African countries following coups that brought to power groups eager to distance themselves from Western governments. In addition to the impending departure from Niger, U.S. troops have also left Chad in recent days, while French forces have been kicked out of Mali and Burkina Faso.

At the same time, Russia is seeking to strengthen relations with African nations, pitching Moscow as a friendly country with no colonial baggage in the continent.

Mali, for example, has in recent years become one of Russia's closest African allies, with the Wagner Group mercenary force deploying there to fight jihadist insurgents.

Russia has described relations with the United States as "below zero" because of U.S. military and financial aid for Ukraine in its effort to defend against invading Russian forces.

The U.S. official said Nigerien authorities had told President Joe Biden's administration that about 60 Russian military personnel would be in Niger, but the official could not verify that number.

After the coup, the U.S. military moved some of its forces in Niger from Airbase 101 to Airbase 201 in the city of Agadez. It was not immediately clear what U.S. military equipment remained at Airbase 101.

The United States built Airbase 201 in central Niger at a cost of more than $100 million. Since 2018 it has been used to target Islamic State and al Qaeda affiliate Jama'at Nusrat al-Islam wal Muslimeen (JNIM) fighters with armed drones.

Washington is concerned about Islamic militants in the Sahel region, who may be able to expand without the presence of U.S. forces and intelligence capabilities.

Niger's move to ask for the removal of U.S. troops came after a meeting in Niamey in mid-March, when senior U.S. officials raised concerns including the expected arrival of Russia forces and reports of Iran seeking raw materials in the country, including uranium.

While the U.S. message to Nigerien officials was not an ultimatum, the official said, it was made clear U.S. forces could not be on a base with Russian forces.

"They did not take that well," the official said.

A two-star U.S. general has been sent to Niger to try and arrange a professional and responsible withdrawal.

While no decisions have been taken on the future of U.S. troops in Niger, the official said the plan was for them to return to U.S. Africa Command's home bases, located in Germany.

(This story has been refiled to insert the dropped word 'official' in paragraph 1)

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Danann has issued a correction as of 18:20 on May 3, 2024

Hubbert
Mar 25, 2007

At a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act.

OctaMurk posted:

The veteran said that some Ukrainian soldiers who were trained in the UK told him that when they asked how to get through Russia's vast minefields, they were told to just go around them.

lol

Zeppelin Insanity
Oct 28, 2009

Wahnsinn
Einfach
Wahnsinn


Unsurprisingly, the armour arrays on the Leopard 2 are very similar to a T-72B. However, I've been assured that this is impossible, as the West uses "advanced composites" which are by definition better than anything the orks could make.

sum
Nov 15, 2010

But that would mean that the tank is a mature technology that stopped improving meaningfully 40 years ago? That would make all the internet arguments pointless... can't be true

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022
It's a bit tangential to this thread but the Canadian army has a a new logo. I'm not sure how much it cost to do this rebranding.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
what on earth is the pixel blob supposed to be

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
A man in brown overall catching a deer.

Mandoric
Mar 15, 2003

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what on earth is the pixel blob supposed to be

Canada (being hosed by a gigantic reindeer)?

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
it's some new camouflage pattern they're launching

and that's clearly a man carrying a deer carcass he killed with his maple leaf decorated spear

rudecyrus has issued a correction as of 01:03 on May 4, 2024

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

Raskolnikov38 posted:

what on earth is the pixel blob supposed to be

Apparently there's a bigger version of the blob pattern. People online are saying it looks like a man (likely a Canadian) jacking off a moose.

rudecyrus
Nov 6, 2009

fuck you trolls
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canadian-forces-army-logo-1.7194088

quote:

It also didn't take long for the memes to arrive. One depicted a man under a maple leaf hugging the behind of an enthusiastic moose.

"hugging"

The Oldest Man
Jul 28, 2003

BearsBearsBears posted:

People online are saying it looks like a man (likely a Canadian) jacking off a moose.


well once you see that you cant unsee it

BearsBearsBears
Aug 4, 2022

quote:

The rebranding was an in-house exercise, the department said.

"The icon was developed without additional funds or involvement of external companies," said Tétreault. "It was developed by DND's internal graphic design team, and this icon comes at zero expense to the taxpayer."

Well that's good to know.

Meow Tse-tung
Oct 11, 2004

No one cat should have all that power

They join up to be cool flaming skull-ghost guys but then their assigned avatar is a NAFO fella

DickParasite
Dec 2, 2004


Slippery Tilde

BearsBearsBears posted:

It's a bit tangential to this thread but the Canadian army has a a new logo. I'm not sure how much it cost to do this rebranding.



Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

i want to know ffs opinion on the new logo

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021

Megamissen posted:

i want to know ffs opinion on the new logo

The Voice of Labor
Apr 8, 2020

who do y'all think made it?

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

Megamissen posted:

i want to know ffs opinion on the new logo

jetz0r
May 10, 2003

Tomorrow, our nation will sit on the throne of the world. This is not a figment of the imagination, but a fact. Tomorrow we will lead the world, Allah willing.



Ff was the moose model

Danann
Aug 4, 2013

too modern, not monarchical enough

<insert phone-written essay here>

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

remember when these two shut down the city of boston for a day

mlmp08
Jul 11, 2004

Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration
Nap Ghost
Canada in disarray

https://x.com/CanadianArmy/status/1786410394627825706

https://x.com/CanadianArmy/status/1786523772494717258

CN CREW-VESSEL
Feb 1, 2024

敌人磨刀我们也磨刀
Just a FYI that the official logo, and all royal regimental insignia, arm and branch insignia, school and establishment insignia, and officers' and warrant officers' insignia for all uniform sets needs to be redone anyway, and that project is running behind schedule.

It all needs to be updated, or revert to pre-1953 designs, to use the King's Crown rather than the Queen's.

Lostconfused
Oct 1, 2008

So this is how monarchy dies.

galagazombie
Oct 31, 2011

A silly little mouse!
Canada invades England and overthrows Charles rather than update the insignia.

Gravid Topiary
Feb 16, 2012

BearsBearsBears posted:

Apparently there's a bigger version of the blob pattern. People online are saying it looks like a man (likely a Canadian) jacking off a moose.



the blob on the right is a soldier holding a rifle and the blob on the left is the farmer he just canoed, the maple leaf is the brains

Proust Malone
Apr 4, 2008

BearsBearsBears posted:

Apparently there's a bigger version of the blob pattern. People online are saying it looks like a man (likely a Canadian) jacking off a moose.



don’t worry! it’s his sister!

The337th
Mar 30, 2011


Looks like something a bird left on the hood of my car.

Doktor Avalanche
Dec 30, 2008

put ff on suicide watch immediately

Entorwellian
Jun 30, 2006

Northern Flicker
Anna's Hummingbird

Sorry, but the people have spoken.



edit: wrong thread

Entorwellian has issued a correction as of 07:51 on May 4, 2024

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Real Mean Queen
Jun 2, 2004

Zesty.


Officer Sandvich posted:

https://www.npr.org/2024/05/02/1246636334/pentagon-military-healthcare

After downsizing health care for years, Pentagon says medical readiness was a casualty

Houthis about to find out why the troops don’t even have health care

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