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That's why I saved myself all the grief and just got a Define 7 XL instead.
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May 4, 2024 18:33
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Can someone tell me if my plan for a zfs expansion is completely insane? Current setup: 12 18tb drives in a single raidz2 vdev attached to an LSI 9300-16i HBA Proposed changes: Add Dell SC200 disk shelf with 12x 16tb drives connected to an LSI 9200-8e Add 4 new sata drives inside the main enclosure, attached to the existing 9300 card, maxing it out Take all 16 16tb drives and create a new raidz3 vdev Add the new vdev to the same zpool as the previous vdev. My main concern is that I’d be introducing a lot of points of failure. If more than 3 drives fail in the new array, if either HBA fails, if the disk shelf fails, if a cable fails, the whole thing collapses. The benefit is that it allows me to maintain simplicity and file and directory structure, which is good as I have some folks who automatically backup my collection periodically.
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May 4, 2024 18:53
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Hey guys, I just got an ASUS TUF A15. SSDs are a pretty big blindspot for me, and find myself getting quite lost reading about the exact specifications, and what I need. It has two slots and comes with a 500 GB SSD preinstalled, I think this one looks good and should fit the requirements, but I’m really not sure. Would really appreciate someone letting me know if this has any glaring problems or anything, it is also at the upper limit of my budget; https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-In...ps%2C133&sr=8-5 Cheers in advance, this sub forum has generally been incredibly helpful
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Calico Heart posted:Hey guys, I just got an ASUS TUF A15. SSDs are a pretty big blindspot for me, and find myself getting quite lost reading about the exact specifications, and what I need. It has two slots and comes with a 500 GB SSD preinstalled, I think this one looks good and should fit the requirements, but I’m really not sure. Would really appreciate someone letting me know if this has any glaring problems or anything, it is also at the upper limit of my budget;
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May 4, 2024 19:23
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Sorry, thanks!
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May 4, 2024 19:28
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Combat Pretzel posted:That's why I saved myself all the grief and just got a Define 7 XL instead. The moment I ever have to do maintenance on this thing I'll probably do similar, going small like this was a mistake.  I've never been happier seeing all four drives spin, the motherboard wasn't detecting one of them so I had to tear the whole thing apart once to debug why (SATA cable wasn't completely connected to the motherboard). Now to slap an OS on this thing and see what happens.
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May 4, 2024 19:29
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Building is a pain in an mITX case, but unless you are constantly in there, its a one time cost that pays dividends forever if you are space conscious. My Meshlicious NAS/Plex/seedbox doubles as an emulation station and is small enough to stay in the living room.
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May 4, 2024 19:44
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  I already love I can do admin stuff on this through a web interface. System is barely audible even under load, currently pulling ~85 W at idle. MadFriarAvelyn fucked around with this message at 20:05 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 19:56
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Talorat posted:If more than 3 drives fail in the new array Talorat posted:if either HBA fails, if the disk shelf fails, if a cable fails These are two very different failure modes. Total and unrecoverable loss of three drives in the original vdev or four in the new vdev will cause you to lose the whole array, yes. As long as the HBA/shelf/cable don't fail in a way that results in writing a huge amount of garbage to the disks, the most you'll experience is downtime until you resolve the issue, plus possibly a small amount of data corruption. Remember that ZFS was originally built for enterprise systems with multiple disk shelves attached to a controller; they had to expect that at some point an entire shelf of disks would disappear for any reason.
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May 4, 2024 21:00
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And spreading a vdev across 2 HBAs, one internal one external shouldn’t really be an issue?
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May 4, 2024 21:27
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Talorat posted:And spreading a vdev across 2 HBAs, one internal one external shouldn’t really be an issue? So long as the connections are reliable, no. Be aware that new writes will probably be concentrated in the new vdev for a while.
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May 4, 2024 21:33
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I like the Node 304… but the spot I put my NAS would only fit something of those dimensions. Totally agree it’s a PITA to work on. I’ve got a half done job of adding the final 4 (of 10 total) drives because some cabling poo poo isn’t working as expected.
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May 4, 2024 21:49
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IOwnCalculus posted:These are two very different failure modes. Total and unrecoverable loss of three drives in the original vdev or four in the new vdev will cause you to lose the whole array, yes. It should, of course, never be run without using the -n flag first, because it's one of those destructive administrative tasks that not even zpool checkpoint can save against (despite being made to guard against destructive administrative tasks), and may also require the use of the -X flag. Basically, it's the thing you try right before you start restoring from the backups that you've hopefully automated.
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May 4, 2024 22:14
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Oh this is gonna be a rabbit hole to go down. Created a SMB share on the new NAS, dumping my previous storage drive onto it and I'm pretty sure my switches/router are bottlenecking the transfer. 5 TB of data estimated to take 22 hours.  I hope the ethernet cables in the walls of this apartment aren't gonna bottleneck things further or I'm gonna need to rework my entire network to better support things.
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May 4, 2024 22:25
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That's a solid 600mbit/s though? 
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May 4, 2024 23:31
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Best case for 1Gbe is 125MB/s, which would be close to 12 hours (2.5GbE would get that down to under 5). Use iperf3 to get a measure of just network transfer speed without potential disk limits at either end.
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May 4, 2024 23:32
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Pablo Bluth posted:Best case for 1Gbe is 125MB/s, which would be close to 12 hours (2.5GbE would get that down to under 5). Use iperf3 to get a measure of just network transfer speed without potential disk limits at either end. Jumboframes can help a bit, but needs some amount of hardware support. EDIT: This also assumes a high goodput ratio. BlankSystemDaemon fucked around with this message at 00:18 on May 5, 2024 |
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May 5, 2024 00:15
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Super annoying: It looks like the $900 Tri-mode adapter I was (ab)using to connect two SAS HDDs suddenly died. It's a Megaraid 9560-16i, and I had it in a desktop tower with a 120mm case fan blowing straight up into the heatsink from a few cm away. Apparently not good enough; any machine I put it in hangs halfway through the early BIOS stages. And of course, it's not entirely mine - I used it at work, but it was strictly speaking bought by another group who, in the end, didn't need it. I ended up with it since I was the only one involved who showed any interest, but I can't really bother them too much about trying to get it swapped under warranty. (This is not a question, I'm just complaining.)
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Hello guys, not sure if this is the correct thread but my server running arch linux is spitting this poo poo in a loop:quote:[1718552.432845] EXT4-fs error (device dm-0): __ext4_get_inode_loc_noinmem:4682: inode #142082275: block 568328238: comm nzbget: unable to read itable block Raw Read Error rate not being at 0 is probably bad I assume? quote:SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16 Is my HDD dieing? Or can I do something to fix this poo poo.
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May 5, 2024 16:42
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Your drive has bad sectors and needs to be replaced.
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Complete computer building newbie here. Looking for a jellyfin server that can do some light business database stuff on the side. I'm considering the following build, along with 4 refurbished 8TB HDD's in a RAID 5. PCPartPicker Part List CPU: Intel Core i5-12600K 3.7 GHz 10-Core Processor ($149.00 @ Newegg) CPU Cooler: Thermalright Assassin X 120 Refined SE 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler ($17.89 @ Amazon) Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Pro RS ATX LGA1700 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon) Memory: Silicon Power XPOWER Turbine 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3200 CL16 Memory ($53.97 @ Amazon) Storage: Kingston NV2 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive ($60.99 @ Amazon) Case: Cooler Master N400 ATX Mid Tower Case ($74.99 @ B&H) Power Supply: SeaSonic FOCUS GX 650 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg) Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24F1ST DVD/CD Writer ($21.99 @ ASUS) Total: $568.81 Am I overlooking anything or should this work out pretty good?
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DVD Burner?
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synology come out with a new 6-8 drive NAS with 2.5gb ethernet already
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May 7, 2024 00:06
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LRADIKAL posted:DVD Burner? Yeah, my wife has a big DVD collection. I want to use this machine to get the ISO off the disks so she can watch them with the menus and special features.
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May 7, 2024 00:22
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are we allowed to suggest people throw away all their DVDs since it’s 2024 and just pull the hi def version off usenet via radarr/sonarr?
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acidx posted:Yeah, my wife has a big DVD collection. I want to use this machine to get the ISO off the disks so she can watch them with the menus and special features. I was about to suggest a Bluray burner since you're there, but then I looked and they're $100 and sometimes more. Ugh, wtf is with those prices.
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Volguus posted:I was about to suggest a Bluray burner since you're there, but then I looked and they're $100 and sometimes more. Ugh, wtf is with those prices. They probably hold value as antique collectibles at this point.
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Volguus posted:I was about to suggest a Bluray burner since you're there, but then I looked and they're $100 and sometimes more. Ugh, wtf is with those prices.
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May 7, 2024 04:43
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Nulldevice posted:Your drive has bad sectors and needs to be replaced. This, but also, 100k power on hours? Give that thing a burial with honors.
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I’m eyeballing the new Ryzen pros (probably the 8600g) for a nas build. Integrated graphics and ecc support! Haven’t seen them on store pages yet. Now to find a store selling super micro or asrock rack that won’t chisel me on shipping..
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priznat posted:I’m eyeballing the new Ryzen pros (probably the 8600g) for a nas build. Integrated graphics and ecc support! Haven’t seen them on store pages yet. Anime Schoolgirl fucked around with this message at 09:09 on May 7, 2024 |
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May 7, 2024 08:41
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They're available and in stock on most of the major Australian sites at least.
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Anime Schoolgirl posted:Where are you finding those (the ryzen pro APUs) being sold? ShopBLT doesn't seem to have the Zen 4 ones last I checked yesterday. No I haven’t seen them yet I meant, at least not in the .ca pc part sites I check. I don’t even think pc reviewers have gotten ahold of them yet. https://www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-ryzen-5-pro-8600g Hmm it says “consumer use: no” so idk if that means they won’t have them up for sale in retail boxes.
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After dealing with a clusterfuck of a drive swap (one disk failing smart and doing a replacement, then two more disks in the second z1 pool giving read errors and being faulted during the resilver) i'm left with a list of about 1400-1500 file errors from status -v. Spot checking through, nothing seems to be amiss. They're pretty much all replaceable media files, but they all play back, are viewable without noticeable glitches, and whatnot. Is this a case of "replace the file later if errors are found" and otherwise carry on as usual? Nothing in this pool is any sort of irreplaceable, anything on it that's valuable exists in at least 2 other places between the cloud and physical media backups. I'm currently mid-replacement on one of the two read-error-faulted disks, which are currently working without issue after a reboot and reseating all the drive cables, but it's made me finally decide to replace my 3 remaining disks with about 85k hours each on them. Worst part is the disk that initially kicked off the whole issue only has about 34k hours and was one of the newest in the pool, and never gave any issues day to day other than immediately failing an extended smart test that ran last week. If anything, this is reinforcing my appreciation of ZFS and how fault-tolerant it is, even in the face of my own abject idiocy.
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PitViper posted:After dealing with a clusterfuck of a drive swap (one disk failing smart and doing a replacement, then two more disks in the second z1 pool giving read errors and being faulted during the resilver) i'm left with a list of about 1400-1500 file errors from status -v. What kind of errors are they, read or cksum?
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PitViper posted:If anything, this is reinforcing my appreciation of ZFS and how fault-tolerant it is, even in the face of my own abject idiocy. Right? A regular RAID would've gone completely unrecoverable very early on in the process, here you're dealing with bitrot that's probably nigh-undetectable because it's such a small amount of data in a video file.
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PitViper posted:After dealing with a clusterfuck of a drive swap (one disk failing smart and doing a replacement, then two more disks in the second z1 pool giving read errors and being faulted during the resilver) i'm left with a list of about 1400-1500 file errors from status -v. When you've been informed that the files have checksum errors, that's because there's data corruption. Without watching all the way through the 1400+ videos it's hard to say how exactly this has affected you. If it's all replaceable then I would start the process, sucks having your movie night grind to a halt because of broken files.
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PitViper posted:After dealing with a clusterfuck of a drive swap (one disk failing smart and doing a replacement, then two more disks in the second z1 pool giving read errors and being faulted during the resilver) i'm left with a list of about 1400-1500 file errors from status -v. Similarly, textfiles aren't really susceptible to a bitflip, because you can open the file, and probably figure out which value was switched (especially if it's a config file that has a linter/checker). The worst files to have bitflips happen to is anything that's in a binary format, without any kind of built-in error checking - things like the Windows Registry, logs from systemd, save files for most video games, programs and libraries, and stuff like that. OpenZFS 2.2 has also implemented corrective receive whereby, if you have a snapshot lying about that contains a good copy of the data that's been flipped, you can use zfs recv to fix it. There's also an issue open to try and fix if you've only got very very big snapshots, but there's no implementation for that yet. IOwnCalculus posted:Right? A regular RAID would've gone completely unrecoverable very early on in the process, here you're dealing with bitrot that's probably nigh-undetectable because it's such a small amount of data in a video file. It's still not backup, though. 
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Zorak of Michigan posted:What kind of errors are they, read or cksum? Read errors, nothing in the cksum column. Surprisingly, swapping cables on the two disks in question seems to have "resolved" the issue, in that I'm 60% of the way through replacing one of those two disks with not a single error reported. Still replacing them regardless. And I'll probably just restore the affected video files from "backup", and a good portion of the other errors are in things like subtitle files that would get restored at the same time. Might just cost me a month or two of paying Comcast for unlimited data, or letting the queue work through itself over a couple months.
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