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Data Graham posted:YOUR SON IS A MORON It must be one of those self-repeating, immortal frankenants. >_>
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Royal crackers tells amazing stories, but because I don't like the characters and don't care what happens to them it ultimately ends up feeling empty and unfulfilling. Never before has a show made me think "wow, I would really be enjoying this storyline if it was about someone else" so frequently.
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May 4, 2024 04:18
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I'm gonna follow this ant home...kill his whole family
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May 4, 2024 04:45
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The marathon is giving me an appreciation for all the celebrities CN shanghaied into the interviews - Steven Wright, Willie Nelson, Charlton Heston.
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May 4, 2024 05:10
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Why do sharks explode? This is because sometimes their brains and sexual organs are made out of M80s. Sometimes, a shark will explode to attract a mate, and sometimes, they'll explode just to attract giant killer bees
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May 4, 2024 07:25
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Ep 2 of the Digital Circus is out. The bit where the truck drives into a rock, glitches out and falls out of the level got a good chuckle out of me.
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May 4, 2024 12:04
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the scene/dialogue pacing in digital circus is so weird. it sounds like the actors' pre-warmup before they get to the actual script e: looks like they just couldn't resist getting to the inevitable Greedy "homage" as soon as possible Oxxidation fucked around with this message at 14:43 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 14:31
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Oxxidation posted:the scene/dialogue pacing in digital circus is so weird. it sounds like the actors' pre-warmup before they get to the actual script Yeah, this nails what I was trying to put my finger on. I like bits and pieces of Digital Circus so far but the pacing is just dragging the whole thing down.
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May 4, 2024 16:54
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https://archive.org/details/ren-stimpy-reboot i forgot this project was even a thing. not even really sure if it still is or not, but it seems alright. but being better than adult party cartoon is probably the easiest bar to clear edit: this is a leak that got deleted off youtube recently
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May 4, 2024 19:37
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Nikumatic posted:Yeah, this nails what I was trying to put my finger on. I like bits and pieces of Digital Circus so far but the pacing is just dragging the whole thing down.
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May 4, 2024 19:53
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Yeah, I’m admittedly waiting to see if it winds up leaning too heavily on “meta commentary” that it detracts from the modern I Have No Mouth and I Must Scream story it’s trying to tell.
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May 4, 2024 20:42
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My other criticism is that it doesn't like to build things up slowly, but rather just plays its cards prettymuch right away and unsubtly before proceeding onto the rest of the episode(s) where it tries to then go mindfucky again but with diminishing returns because it already gave us the twist at the start. The 2nd episode at least did a new spin on what it wanted to tackle in the 2nd half rather than going straight at it, and even the timing of shots gets a bit tighter in a good way closer to the end of the episode. It's improving, I think. It's not exactly where I'd like it to be, but I'm not taken aback or annoyed by its success the same way I am for other projects with far, far worse writing or visual issues.
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May 4, 2024 20:56
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Oxxidation posted:the scene/dialogue pacing in digital circus is so weird. it sounds like the actors' pre-warmup before they get to the actual script Are you talking about Ragatha and Jax here? Because I think those specifically are both intentional choices. The characters are supposed to both sound like they're acting. You can hear Ragatha's voice actor giving a more natural sounding performance in Pomni's nightmare at the beginning, and occasionally she'll "break character" like when she's talking with Kinger and convey genuine emotion, but most of the time she sounds like the host of a kids show (think Steve from blues clues) because playing that role helps her stay sane. It's the same with Jax, but the role he plays to stay sane is "rear end in a top hat" and instead of sounding like a kids show host he sounds like Raggedy Andy from "Raggedy Ann & Andy: A Musical Adventure", which was a big inspiration for The Amazing Digital Circus and can be watched in its entirety here: https://youtu.be/AloMFCbn4IQ?si=545tmknuiTE6pyV8
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May 4, 2024 21:46
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no, it's everybody. dialogues natter on for too long, they're full of too much stammering and um-ah interjections, they step on their punchlines or don't interject them at the right time. like i said, it sounds more like pre-recording exercises or something where the actors are warming up their in-character voices, there's little of the snappiness you'd associate with a traditional script helluva and hazbin also have this problem but not to the same extent
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May 4, 2024 21:49
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Needs more hahafunnytoofman imo.
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May 4, 2024 22:03
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Pomni's shell-shocked routine is going to have to either a) go into abeyance as she finds her footing more and starts taking charge or b) goes completely bugfuck ballistic and everything explodes
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May 4, 2024 22:19
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The Episode felt, half baked? There was a great concept there, and I can see what they were aiming for. It felt like a script written and considered "good enough" without all the extra shine it needed. Maybe it was rushed thanks to the success of the show? It could have used more script work. It felt like something was missing. The Last Call fucked around with this message at 22:35 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 22:33
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Given the length and how relatively recent the first episode was released I’m guessing they either had this partially ready to roll when the first came out or it was insanely rushed out. There was one bit I noticed as there initially leaving with the truck where they appear to make a turn and plow through some of the crowd. Looked like it needed another pass or something.
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May 4, 2024 22:42
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I noticed that! Was waiting for it to be a bit joke about hitting and running over some of the NPC's first. It wasn't.
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Also gonna reiterate my feelings about the Groovenians-tier animation/design. We get off talking about Hazbin/Helluva and straight into this which is just ... I don't know, so plasticky and technicolor as to feel like a 90s throwback. The kind of stuff Toy Story was such a revelation as to lift us out of, in 1995 Yeah the kernel of the good idea (the "NPCs are actually sentient and that's horrific thing) is there but there's just something about the pacing and the comic timing that makes it not hit at all. We get one "twist" (Gummigoo and his gang are not evil bandits, they're trying to save his dying mum) which we're barely able to absorb because it comes at literally the exact moment we're first introduced to his character so there's no time to establish any preconceived notions to be "twisted" away from; and then moments later we get the second "twist" (NPC world) which is presented in a very sterile and opaque kind of way (not helped by the not-super-expressive character design) so we're not sure what it is we're supposed to be so dumbstruck by until he spells it out for us. It all feels like they're trying to jam the idea down the toilet with a plunger E: ^^ as to the above I lol'd at the crowd being made up of literal Poser models which is a great joke but lol^2 if they meant to replace them with actual characters but ran out of time Data Graham fucked around with this message at 22:51 on May 4, 2024 |
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May 4, 2024 22:48
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Data Graham posted:Also gonna reiterate my feelings about the Groovenians-tier animation/design. Man, thank you, I was starting to wonder if this was a real thing or just some fever dream I had when I was like 8 years old because I could never find anything about it online (and didn't know what the title was)
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digital circus's main idea feels like a complete non-starter and it's instead banking on gooseworx's popularity and its audience going gaga over its characters doing things to maintain interest. that's why everyone just keeps rambling on and on, it's not about the punchlines so much as letting everyone talk as much as possible it's clearly working but doesn't do much for me, i felt similarly about alastor in the hazbin pilot. i don't care that you're destined for enough fanart to fill an encyclopedia set, shut the gently caress up!
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May 4, 2024 23:13
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I am less irritated (but still fairly irritated) by the writing and attempts at comedy in the digital circus than in the vivzieverse, but really the acting and delivery problems in all of them seem to suffer from a lack of good direction. All the performances feel like they're just short of being there, and could probably have landed if they had someone on staff with the ear for timing.
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May 4, 2024 23:53
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Toofmann nails it for me but I don’t really care about any of the rest of the cast. That said they seem to have struck a nerve in a good way with the internet because there is no end of artists drawing the cast doing all kinds of activities. People are really horny for clowns I guess.
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Warbird posted:Toofmann nails it for me but I don’t really care about any of the rest of the cast. That said they seem to have struck a nerve in a good way with the internet because there is no end of artists drawing the cast doing all kinds of activities. Sadly it doesn't matter what it is, or who it is. People are going to ship it. There could be zero hints of relationships and people will still do everything. Everything with everyone. Where Digitial Circus is concerned, the creator has even said there are going to be no relationships. It's not that kind of show. You'd never know it by the fannon stuff.
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Data Graham posted:Also gonna reiterate my feelings about the Groovenians-tier animation/design. We get off talking about Hazbin/Helluva and straight into this which is just ... I don't know, so plasticky and technicolor as to feel like a 90s throwback. The kind of stuff Toy Story was such a revelation as to lift us out of, in 1995 I think the idea they were attempting to get at was that the "saving the village" backstory isn't even real, because it wasn't ever a part of the quest's design as the characters would never have to actually go there or engage with it, and thus the character is supposed to experience a huge amount of psychological damage, but the problem is that there was no reason to have that backstory in the setting in the first place if the characters were never meant to know/engage with that part of the setting anyway. The show kinda blew its load in the first episode rather than letting the mystery build episode by episode as the veneer comes off these adventures and their consequences, which could have at least been written as a "we wanted to ease you into it" thing rather than going "oh the adventures don't actually matter and are just to distract us so we don't go crazy" in the first few minutes of the pilot. It would give a lot more weight to Pomni's development rather than having her being in eternal shocked mode at all times.
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Warbird posted:Toofmann nails it for me but I don’t really care about any of the rest of the cast. That said they seem to have struck a nerve in a good way with the internet because there is no end of artists drawing the cast doing all kinds of activities. https://twitter.com/SarulArt/status/1786570147903197196
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The Last Call posted:Sadly it doesn't matter what it is, or who it is. My friend I contributed to a multi chapter very horny fan comic of a beloved capcom franchise and even this seems excessive. The internet never fails to impress/horrify.
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Warbird posted:My friend I contributed to a multi chapter very horny fan comic of a beloved capcom franchise and even this seems excessive. The internet never fails to impress/horrify. Well yeah, but who could resist leaning in when Sir Arthur is always showing off his heart-boxers like the tawdry little tramp that he is?
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May 5, 2024 02:03
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Quit yappin and post the Megaman porn already.
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Pretty sure it's all about everyone being preggo nowadays. Looks like the AMDC is still riding high, currently at 29 million views on the second episode after only a day. We might not have cared for the episode but most appear to have loved it.
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Neeksy posted:I think the idea they were attempting to get at was that the "saving the village" backstory isn't even real, because it wasn't ever a part of the quest's design as the characters would never have to actually go there or engage with it, and thus the character is supposed to experience a huge amount of psychological damage, but the problem is that there was no reason to have that backstory in the setting in the first place if the characters were never meant to know/engage with that part of the setting anyway. RandomReader fucked around with this message at 06:06 on May 5, 2024 |
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May 5, 2024 06:03
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One of the funniest things about Royal Crackers is how their version of Bakersfield is just littered with cracker factories.
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RandomReader posted:The backstory is as real as anything else in the setting, just not the physical village or mom. We don't need to see Han Solo dump his cargo for Jabba to be pissed at him for doing it, or see how Superman's spaceship was built for it to fly him to earth. Similarly, the village and his mom don't need to be a fully fleshed out location or character for it inform the actions of the bandits, and to subsequently complicate the PCs mission in an effort to make the quest more engaging. "The thieves had a good reason" is a fairly classic twist to the standard "We must retrieve the stolen mcguffin" plot after all. I'm saying that the mother and the village "don't exist" in the literal sense that they don't have models made for them, and he has no memory of what his own mom's face actually looks like, etc. so even though he's been given these details of his life, they have nothing to back them up and thus the source of existential terror on his part. I get that they weren't rendered because they weren't necessary to show, just like you're pointing out, which IS the point of the "doesn't exist" aspect. So if the rest of the cast had decided to check out said town in their adventure, the simulation would be poo poo outta luck.
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Yeah ... and again, weirdly this is ground that Toy Story already covered, being basically about Buzz "waking up" from being an NPC to being a PC. The later revelation that Zurg actually does exist is just another, more advanced twist on that same already-well-worn pattern
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Just watched The Amazing Digital Circus after the discussion in this thread. The animation jokes are so looney tunesy that it kind of takes away from any meta commentary they are trying to do. It is a kids show though, right? That is why the themes seem pretty undeveloped and kind of retread to me.
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it is absolutely not a kids show lol
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Really screams kid show to me with the animation style, voice acting and themes but maybe I'm missing something. They bleep every swear as a joke and it's not realistically violent or sexual really.
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its audience seems to be majority zoomers so categorically i think you could make that argument like there's not too much "adult" about it beyond its pg-rated take on Harlan Ellison
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gurragadon posted:Really screams kid show to me with the animation style, voice acting and themes but maybe I'm missing something. They bleep every swear as a joke and it's not realistically violent or sexual really. Oxxidation posted:its audience seems to be majority zoomers so categorically i think you could make that argument Also the idea that anything that doesn't have lots of realistic sex and violence is automatically for kids is pretty dumb However, the amazing digital circus is obviously imitating the style of kids shows so I see how people might assume its a kids show. mystes fucked around with this message at 15:56 on May 5, 2024 |
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