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Tafferling posted:Reviews are up at Mixed on Steam. People don't want to ruin a perfectly good cape with a fifth red line, it just wouldn't work. the best cape is the last one you get in the free warbond, with the gold diamond on it. at least until we get the LGBT cape
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Sagebrush posted:Stun grenade, Sickle, and Blitzer are all fantastic and I think those make Cutting Edge the best warbond to get. the blitzer is incredibly bad, are you sure that you aren't getting it confused with the punisher plasma?
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Update: Below is a photoshop. It's still looks amazing and I'd wear it.
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Hats Wouldnt Fly posted:I think everyone just shoots at dropships and coincidences occur. Among my friend group its a running joke to claim you took down a dropship with your liberator or whatever just because of how often it appears you did because you didn't see the rocket the other guy shot. Just like that scene out of Saving Private Ryan where the Captain starts shooting a tank with his M1911 and it suddenly explodes. For a brief moment, he's thinking in his near-death delirium that he somehow destroyed a tank with his pistol when he looks up and nope, it was an airstrike. Tafferling posted:Reviews are up at Mixed on Steam. People don't want to ruin a perfectly good cape with a fifth red line, it just wouldn't work. The cape needs to have mirrored lines coming up from the bottom as well. In addition, one of the top lines needs a small section of it colored in gold. Finally, there's a black hole in between the two opposing sets of lines.
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May 6, 2024 21:34
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turn off the TV posted:the blitzer is incredibly bad, are you sure that you aren't getting it confused with the punisher plasma? no, the blitzer arc shotgun. it one-shots most bug heads, two-shots bile spewers, arcs between enemies, and has infinite ammo. i love it and it's my pick on bug missions (sickle for bots). my only problem with it is the weird camera glitch that jerks the camera to the right when it fires. the punisher plasma is okay but the scorcher is better because it doesn't have the crazy trajectory. ArmyGroup303 posted:Amazing trolling by Arrowhead with this new cape. that's not a photoshop? dang, can't wait lol e: no, it's just a very good photoshop. Sagebrush fucked around with this message at 21:43 on May 6, 2024 |
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Tafferling posted:Reviews are up at Mixed on Steam. People don't want to ruin a perfectly good cape with a fifth red line, it just wouldn't work. I’m always gonna wear the creek cape because I miss that planet
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May 6, 2024 21:39
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ArmyGroup303 posted:Amazing trolling by Arrowhead with this new cape.  
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Bottom Liner posted:cheat death armor is extremely good. that + personal shield in bots means I rarely die. yeah I run that one on bots and ultra light scout on bugs. The shield preventing hunters from slowing you makes up for any light armor weakness - and bugs is just forever running so max stam is good
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May 6, 2024 21:40
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Sagebrush posted:no, the blitzer arc shotgun. it one-shots most bug heads, two-shots bile spewers, arcs between enemies, and has infinite ammo. i love it and it's my pick on bug missions (sickle for bots). my only problem with it is the weird camera glitch that jerks the camera to the right when it fires. yeah the blitzer can one shot warriors and hunters if you land headshots and then they will still walk up to you and attack you and the arc doesn't one shot hunters or warriors and does nothing to hive guards or brood commanders or whatever so you're basically pissing into the wind while using it half the time. i've used it for a few bug missions and it's just a solid turd the plasma punisher will one shot basic bot trooper guys so it's competent at clearing out groups of them
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ArmyGroup303 posted:Amazing trolling by Arrowhead with this new cape. I'm creeking anyone I see wearing this cape on sight.
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The introduction of the big walking factories have really hosed up the bot "tower defense" mission with the closeable gates. In the past my group really enjoy this mission type because it was a constant turkey shoot of blasting down dropships and making a big pile of scrap at the first Y intersection that we would periodically bombard with calldowns and constant quasar fire. Since the big walkers were added we have failed it 2/2 times because the second a walker is able to poke through the first Y intersection it seems like they just have a straight line of sight to the final defense target and instantly kill it. It feels so unceremonious that it almost seems like a design oversight. I don't know how to deal with it because we already tend to drop multiple heavy calldowns and focus fire whenever a walker shows up so I don't know how much more counterplay is possible, clearly either we are missing something or the mission is just stupid now.
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Sagebrush posted:
drat, had such high hopes. It looks freaking awesome.
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turn off the TV posted:yeah the blitzer can one shot warriors and hunters if you land headshots and then they will still walk up to you and attack you and the arc doesn't one shot hunters or warriors and does nothing to hive guards or brood commanders or whatever so you're basically pissing into the wind while using it half the time. i've used it for a few bug missions and it's just a solid turd The blitzer's issue is that it is limited by the number of things it can hit at once, and it having somewhat finnicky targeting. I get rid of those weaknesses with a laser drone to deal with chaff bugs, and I spend a lot of time looping sprint>shoot>dive to reposition and make space from hordes. With even a single person backing you up, you can push back anything that isn't a charger or bile titan. Scoss posted:The introduction of the big walking factories have really hosed up the bot "tower defense" mission with the closeable gates. Really, once you kill the miniguns on the strider (JAR Dominator, AC, Sniper, Laser can do this), and the back cannon (Recoilless, EAT, Quasar, Rocket pods) I don't know what threat the factory strider poses to the generators. I will say that the Quasar isn't in a good spot to contest the sheer amount of heavy units that higher difficulty defense missions bring to the table. Sestze fucked around with this message at 21:55 on May 6, 2024 |
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Scoss posted:The introduction of the big walking factories have really hosed up the bot "tower defense" mission with the closeable gates. Apply EAT/rockers directly to the cannon turret ASAP. It’s cheesy how fast they can nuke the batteries but it’s possible to defend against, you just need everyone to immediately prio that as soon as it pops up (and have a field of discarded EATs ready to go)
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^^^ oh, yeah deffo take out the top cannon ASAP.Scoss posted:The introduction of the big walking factories have really hosed up the bot "tower defense" mission with the closeable gates. Second walker? Hmmm. Something isn't right there as I've been in Helldive games where we've dealt with a lot more than that. What are your loadouts? Are you using EMP sentries? What level is this?
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Sestze posted:Once warriors or brood commanders are headless, if they run up to you to attack you, you get to freely knock them back and stun them with a melee strike. it's not really freely when there are a dozen other bugs trying to also attack you
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Yeah you can't actually kill the walkers fast enough to stop them from blowing up the generators, but you can disable the cannon, which solves the same problem
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turn off the TV posted:the blitzer is incredibly bad, are you sure that you aren't getting it confused with the punisher plasma? Sagebrush posted:no, the blitzer arc shotgun. it one-shots most bug heads, two-shots bile spewers, arcs between enemies,
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Doctor Zero posted:^^^ oh, yeah deffo take out the top cannon ASAP. "...the second a walker...", as in it seems to end the mission the moment it pokes through the Y choke. In reality it's probably the fourth or fifth walker to spawn. We play on Helldive and I think everyone's loadout is basically Quasar / 500kg / Orbital Rail or some other anti-heavy calldown / Mortar
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...everyone's taking quasar on bots? You'll kill factory striders way faster by shooting the less armored bits of their face with autocannon/laser cannon/AMR.
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Sagebrush posted:. Eruptor is the way and the light. It can one shot anything lower than a charger, including bile spewers and stalkers, and it can solo heavy bug nests without triggering any spawns. There's no other primary that can come close to doing that.
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The Arc Blitzer is actually 5 little aimbots each with a 120 degree cone that extends from the front of the gun. When you pull the trigger each aimbot tries to headshot exactly one enemy up to 30m in front of it. They do 50 damage base, but headshots functionally mean they do a lot more. They don't know what the other aimbots are doing (so you can have multiple shots hit the same target) and they can target corpses and occasionally landscape stuff. They do not jump or arc to additional targets. ADS adds 1 meter to the distance and reduces the cone by a very small amount (I believe 5 degrees?). Based on these limitations the best thing to do is simply to run around and hip fire it. Don't stay in one place too long fighting a horde or the amount of corpses on the ground will seriously impair the gun's efficiency. So yeah keep this stuff in mind as you use the gun, it's very good up to Helldive, where enemy density just sort of overwhelms it without a lot of mobility and tactical retreating.
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LazyMaybe posted:...everyone's taking quasar on bots? You'll kill factory striders way faster by shooting the less armored bits of their face with autocannon/laser cannon/AMR. Yeah if you can get a low enough angle on a factory strider, less than a full autocannon clip will kill it with belly shots.
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LazyMaybe posted:The blitzer just recently got a +50% rate of fire buff. It's pretty good now. unless the buff was yesterday it's still bad
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Sagebrush posted:I don't feel any urge to buy the next warbond. Nothing in it seems like a real gotta-have. Maybe the baby quasar cannon would be fun? idk I feel the same way. I only really like running weapons with AP 3 or higher, and I'd pick the Scorcher over the new plasma one unless there's something I'm missing. At least they're not sticking All Terrain Boots in this warbond to go with the snow theme since it's already free.
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Arc thrower is extremely good against bugs and you can basically block a chokepoint indefinitely with it. It's the only weapon that has no real reload or limitation to constant damage output, and scales up very well against lil guys. Blitzer is like a lovely version of it without a charge-up, which is fine since that's basically what primaries are supposed to be. Break-action shotgun loving sucks and I don't understand why it exists. For fun and challenge I always grab it and use it every time I find it. It should be a primary.
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Your Brain on Hugs posted:Yeah if you can get a low enough angle on a factory strider, less than a full autocannon clip will kill it with belly shots. Laser cannon in particular will kill the face very fast, but I like autocannon/AMR more for automatons otherwise.  turn off the TV posted:unless the buff was yesterday it's still bad Mind, I still think people are overrating the effect of the electricity(see people thinking it arcs between enemies or otherwise has actual AoE) and unlimited ammo.
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d0grent posted:the shield backpack is a little bit slept on if only for the fact that it saves you from 90% of teamkill scenarios. I've saved up to 8 additional lives for the squad just by not dying to dumb poo poo that my team's sentries or stratagems do (or my own for that matter) I had a teammate using shield backpack yesterday and I shot eruptor at enemies like 100 m away and I saw the shrapnel ping his shield and disable it. Thought, wow, saved his life.
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jokes posted:Break-action shotgun loving sucks and I don't understand why it exists. For fun and challenge I always grab it and use it every time I find it. It should be a primary.
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It wouldn't be any good at all in HD2 but I want them to add back in the sawed-off Double Freedom SxS from the first game because it was so fun
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The blitzer's real strength is its stagger effect. With the new ROF you can essentially stun-lock a group of 4-5 medium enemies. It can be surprisingly effective vs bots since it can keep a squad of berserkers at bay better than any other primary. Its damage output is still quite poor though, so you really need a teammate with something like a sickle or liberator to help take them down
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Insert name here posted:It wouldn't be any good at all in HD2 but I want them to add back in the sawed-off Double Freedom SxS from the first game because it was so fun A sawed-off pistol slot weapon would be baller.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:The blitzer's real strength is its stagger effect. With the new ROF you can essentially stun-lock a group of 4-5 medium enemies. It can be surprisingly effective vs bots since it can keep a squad of berserkers at bay better than any other primary. Its damage output is still quite poor though, so you really need a teammate with something like a sickle or liberator to help take them down May thy teammate be Flame and the Dog named Rover.
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Scrub-Niggurath posted:The blitzer's real strength is its stagger effect. With the new ROF you can essentially stun-lock a group of 4-5 medium enemies. It can be surprisingly effective vs bots since it can keep a squad of berserkers at bay better than any other primary. Its damage output is still quite poor though, so you really need a teammate with something like a sickle or liberator to help take them down yeah, i only play with a group of friends so blitzer is very effective even though it doesn't kill very fast as it stops any stream of bullshit in place (even up to two stalkers, if you backpedal) for the crew to kill effortlessly
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The thing about the blitzer is it’s not the breaker incendiary and by that I mean it can’t easily take out a patrol of hunters without repositioning or getting help from the laser dog.
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I also use the break action shotgun if im feeling it, it feels awesome to use even though it is pitifully bad. Really hope they have plans to buff it at some point.
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Blitzer really was always decent against bugs. And then they increased fire rate. it doesnt solve every problem but it can keep medium sized bugs away from you and hunters off you.
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Question Time posted:drat, that was fast. Stun grenade looks nice, going to grind some 1s today to get enough SC for cutting edge. Yeah in that video he does the stun/cook leg thing several times. Stuns help killing chargers with the EAT/Quasar/RR also. You stun it and then you can put the dot right on its little faceplate and not have to sweat missing so often. If you hit the faceplate from the side with one of those weapons you will also usually behead it, but tricky to time without the stuns. They synergize well with a group. If you have a flamebro in your group and you stun a charger you can just move on to something else if they are available and do not have to waste a rocket. I think it is well worth the damage output you lose to use stun grenades, just charger management alone is great.
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turn off the TV posted:yeah the guard dog's poo poo ammo management coupled with its reliance on supply packs still makes it an incredibly dubious pick. i think that they could give it an infinite supply and it'd still be balanced I'd rather have a dog that fired something stronger but slower. Give me a Dilligence on a dog and I'd be happy feeding it supply packs
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ArmyGroup303 posted:Update: Below is a photoshop. It's still looks amazing and I'd wear it. It looks like a pictogram of the Helldiver salute.
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