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Cenodoxus
Mar 29, 2012

while [[ true ]] ; do
    pour()
done


"We took away their server room access, problem solved"

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SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


klosterdev posted:

Why wasn't the cable secured after the first time?

Are you imagining that the server room didn't look like this?

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


SyNack Sassimov posted:

Are you imagining that the server room didn't look like this?



MODS?

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


SyNack Sassimov posted:

Are you imagining that the server room didn't look like this?



This is a 90s adventure game background.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

SyNack Sassimov posted:

Are you imagining that the server room didn't look like this?



I'd enjoy working here

digitalist
Nov 17, 2000

journey into Kirk's unknown


It's cozy

tehinternet
Feb 14, 2005

Semantically, "you" is both singular and plural, though syntactically it is always plural. It always takes a verb form that originally marked the word as plural.

Also, there is no plural when the context is an argument with an individual rather than a group. Somfin shouldn't put words in my mouth.

SyNack Sassimov posted:

Are you imagining that the server room didn't look like this?



No homegrown, reported

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Meet me in the David Cronenberg server room

Organic Lube User
Apr 15, 2005

I can't believe there aren't AI hallucinations in that image.

SyNack Sassimov
May 4, 2006

Let the robot win.
            --Captain James T. Vader


Vargatron posted:

This is a 90s adventure game background.

:hmmyes:

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





lol, hidden object game

Find the intern.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
lol just lol if that's not what the back of your gaming pc looks like

i know people who do cable management and they're all cowards

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


Vargatron posted:

This is a 90s adventure game background.

Fixing that can be treated as a playthrough and will likely take as much time

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.
Fairly sure this is not ADA compliant

Organic Lube User
Apr 15, 2005

Most non-euclidean geometries aren't.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Degree done, hooray! And got a few recommendation letters + the number of a guy hiring, how delightful! Now lets check their website...

"...MANAGED IT SERVICES"

Uh oh!!!

Vulture Culture
Jul 14, 2003

I was never enjoying it. I only eat it for the nutrients.

Dandywalken posted:

Degree done, hooray! And got a few recommendation letters + the number of a guy hiring, how delightful! Now lets check their website...

"...MANAGED IT SERVICES"

Uh oh!!!
There's worse places to cut your teeth, get a ton of resume keywords, and then move on. Mine was a boutique web hosting company where I did some of everything

CommieGIR
Aug 22, 2006

The blue glow is a feature, not a bug


Pillbug

Vulture Culture posted:

There's worse places to cut your teeth, get a ton of resume keywords, and then move on. Mine was a boutique web hosting company where I did some of everything

This. If the pay is good, take it, up your resume, and ditch as soon as you get some hands on and a good offer.

FISHMANPET
Mar 3, 2007

Sweet 'N Sour
Can't
Melt
Steel Beams
I worked with a young guy who came from the MSP world. He had a good amount of exposure to a variety of topics, and more importantly, he knew how to dive into the unfamiliar and flail around and just figure it out because there's nobody more of an expert to ask. I've always found that kind of adaptability incredibly valuable, so I agree that if the pay is good, it can be a good way to learn a lot and build some valuable experience. Will also help you get a better feel for what areas of IT interest you the most for when you move onto the next job.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





FISHMANPET posted:

I worked with a young guy who came from the MSP world. He had a good amount of exposure to a variety of topics, and more importantly, he knew how to dive into the unfamiliar and flail around and just figure it out because there's nobody more of an expert to ask. I've always found that kind of adaptability incredibly valuable, so I agree that if the pay is good, it can be a good way to learn a lot and build some valuable experience. Will also help you get a better feel for what areas of IT interest you the most for when you move onto the next job.

Very much this. MSP work is great experience in trying to decipher what the hell the user is trying to do and what is actually wrong. Yea yea the user sucks and is a big ol dummy but it’s kinda your job to support them and it’s a good exercise in empathy and not being a uncharismatic loser. I would absolutely say the biggest take away from MSP work is office and corporate world socialization.

johnny park
Sep 15, 2009

FISHMANPET posted:

he knew how to dive into the unfamiliar and flail around and just figure it out because there's nobody more of an expert to ask.

I'm two and a half years into my IT career and I still kinda feel like I'm doing this a lot of the time, lol

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





It never ends. And there's such a huge difference between the people who will just dive in and the people who won't. The comment about not having an expert to lean on is on point.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


I feel like advancing through your career is mainly shifting what "diving in" looks like - in the early days it might be trying to martyr yourself but after a decade or so it will be "here are the three companies we need to do a good job of this, who is approving this budget?".

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Thanks Ants posted:

I feel like advancing through your career is mainly shifting what "diving in" looks like - in the early days it might be trying to martyr yourself but after a decade or so it will be "here are the three companies we need to do a good job of this, who is approving this budget?".

Or at least always keeping an eye towards “ok now that we understand how this works, can we configure this pile of poo poo to work and be maintainable in a way that we can document it and hand it to ops/users”. And if we don’t have the knowledge/experience, do we need to hire outside help? Key is to not build half baked poo poo and throw it in prod without thinking.

Being a martyr sucks real bad unless you like 3am phone calls.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





Agreed for sure. I feel like a major difference between a more junior engineer and a more senior engineer is learning when to say "no, this is a bad idea, let's talk about alternative approaches" instead of just rolling up your sleeves.

I was out on PTO for a few days and am having one of those post time off meltdowns. I hate this poo poo, throw it all in the trash.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


FISHMANPET posted:

successful but non-VC-funded tech company that's growing.

I almost cannot believe that this exists.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)

johnny park posted:

I'm two and a half years into my IT career and I still kinda feel like I'm doing this a lot of the time, lol

coming up on two years and at this point I just want the opportunity for being rewarded for diving in instead of being yelled at for not just doing the bare minimum method my boss decided on years ago that stopped working years ago.

oh well time for more job applications I guess.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

Soft interview/"Come talk to our main tech guy" at the MSP this Friday, we'll see how it goes!

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


Internet Explorer posted:

Agreed for sure. I feel like a major difference between a more junior engineer and a more senior engineer is learning when to say "no, this is a bad idea, let's talk about alternative approaches" instead of just rolling up your sleeves.

I was out on PTO for a few days and am having one of those post time off meltdowns. I hate this poo poo, throw it all in the trash.

If you still like technology, it means you haven't worked in IT long enough.

LochNessMonster
Feb 3, 2005

I need about three fitty


Old coworker left, we hired a new one. New coworker did more useful stuff in their first week than the old one in 6 months.

Silly Newbie
Jul 25, 2007
How do I?
I got my start in an MSP like 20 years ago and I'm a Director now, but ymmv. Everyone else is right, the exposure to a ton of different technologies gives you great range and having to dive in and fix/maintain/transform amateur hour piles of crap infrastructure teaches you how things should not be done and common pitfalls. One other thing I found really valuable was seeing a lot of different platforms that did the same thing, like different vendors networking hardware. You start to notice the things they all do similarly, which leads you to base level knowledge of how things have to work, and let's you extrapolate how something new might work.

Blurb3947
Sep 30, 2022
The MSP I’m at serves literal children. We’ve got kids calling in because they want to install GTA V on their school PC and we have an Autoelevate script to stop it lol

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Nuclearmonkee posted:

If you still like technology, it means you haven't worked in IT long enough.

Dear god I feel this in my bones.

tokin opposition
Apr 8, 2021

I don't jailbreak the androids, I set them free.

WATCH MARS EXPRESS (2023)
I don't like technology, I love it.

Users, on the other hand, just get in the way of the tech.

jaegerx
Sep 10, 2012

Maybe this post will get me on your ignore list!


I'm using AI to shitpost in this thread right now.

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





I don't mind tech, but the industry we have built up around it is pure garbage.

vanity slug
Jul 20, 2010

i love suffering

Nuclearmonkee
Jun 10, 2009


vanity slug posted:

i love suffering

This is prime IT worker material right here.

Vampire Panties
Apr 18, 2001
nposter
Nap Ghost
Well, not to snivel in the work thread, but it kinda/sorta seems like my IT career is at an end. I simply can not find a loving job. I have applied for hundreds, interviewed for dozens, and I simply cannot get an offer. I genuinely don't know what I'm going to do.

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xzzy
Mar 5, 2009

Internet Explorer posted:

I don't mind tech, but the industry we have built up around it is pure garbage.

We, as in the peons keeping it all running, didn't do poo poo. The core failure is the long chain of ultra wealthy assholes that have been pillaging the planet for centuries with have no goal but a top score. Tech is just the latest boom for them to exploit.

Except javascript and nosql. What the gently caress were people thinking, those were unwarranted.

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