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The prequels were absolutely hated in the online discourse of the 2000s. Didn't stop them from being very successful and beloved by now. I'm wondering whether that'll happen to the sequels. I liked the first two but Rise Of Skywalker is just so drat chaotic and as others have said, at times plain incoherent. It's legit hard to follow in my opinion because so many scenes felt distractingly nonsensical. I think you'd have to release a substantially different edit to make it work. (Luckily Star Wars already has a bunch of CGI actors so you can call them back to reshoot if you must)
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May 8, 2024 09:29
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I don’t know. I’m going to guess probably not because the kids that watched them grew up in a time when Star Wars wasn’t the bestest franchise and they probably had the MCU as their go to thing. It’s probably not a satisfying story all together even if I like two thirds of it. Honestly I blame studio shake ups over not having a plan because even the original Star Wars didn’t have a super locked down plan besides the base points. Whcih even the ST had with Kylo Ren and Driver admitted the whole point of his character was seeing a weak villain become more evil as the films go. Which is what JJ told him. The whole Ben thing was never in the cards
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May 8, 2024 09:46
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i would like to clarify for the record that my preference for the prequels doesn't have much to do with the sequels being terrible or rose tinted glasses. i feel the exact same way about the prequels now as i did when i saw them: they're extremely flawed, but entertaining and enjoyable. two things i can't at say at all for the sequels. my rankings go as such: OT > PT >>>>>>>>> ST i can watch any of the first 6 movies if they happen to be airing on t.v. no sweat. but i legitimately never want to see any of the sequels ever again.  @ the comments:quote:Good thing she stood in the exact perfect spot and the debris didn’t move an inch in 30 years despite sitting in the middle of the ocean quote:Just remember, a movie with a budget of 275M dollars used a line such as: "Somehow, Palpatine returned." quote:Casual reminded that on top of it all the writers forgot that the dagger was made before the Death Star exploded... quote:>Death Star somehow still intact after exploding quote:How awkward this would’ve been if she was right handed quote:Remember when this was leaked on Reddit and everyone dismissed it as fake because it was too ridiculous to be real? Good times. quote:Imagine if they were standing in the wrong place, at the wrong angle, at the wrong distance.
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May 8, 2024 09:48
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I would watch the force awakens and the last Jedi’s main Blu ray menu over any of the prequels tbh I was discussing them in cined and I forgot how tedious they are to talk about so they are extra worthless to me. Except in my brain when I can nostalgically remember the good times and keep it at that
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May 8, 2024 09:54
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the prequel trilogy also got a huge marketing push with things kids like like toys and video games and a cartoon. the sequel trilogy got disney infinity and a bunch of streaming shows about guys standing around talking.
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May 8, 2024 10:03
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and fortnite
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May 8, 2024 10:04
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Sequels got that one fortnite thing, and that cartoon. And a theme park. That’s actually it. The toys didn’t really sell at all, mostly because the entire cast was made up of humans with the only non humans being legacy characters. So they were mega boring. Disney pretty much ditched the sequels the moment they ended and haven’t looked back. So idk what their plan is. They want the entirety of star wars to exist in this place where they can make the PT and OT relevant at the same time.
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May 8, 2024 10:09
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Arc Hammer posted:It has Basil Oregano played by Jimmy Smits! He's Princess Leia's non-biological father! He got blowed up on Alderaan! IT BROKE NEW GROUND!
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May 8, 2024 10:10
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Endorph posted:the prequel trilogy also got a huge marketing push with things kids like like toys and video games and a cartoon. And Pizza Hut buffet danglers! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DECIcAJNqRQ
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May 8, 2024 10:13
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Imo it was wild getting toys from Pizza Hut of all places
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May 8, 2024 10:19
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CelticPredator posted:The toys didn’t really sell at all, mostly because the entire cast was made up of humans with the only non humans being legacy characters. So they were mega boring.
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May 8, 2024 10:39
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No they did make a ton of Kylo ren figures. He clogged the pegs with everyone else. The only villain that was hard to find initially was Phasma but after the movie people didn’t care about her lol There really is only three main ST villains. Kylo, Hux and Snoke.
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May 8, 2024 10:45
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CelticPredator posted:
There's a good video about this. The first 6 movies had alien designs that came from all sorts of inspirations, but the ST only has aliens that look "Star Wars-y". Also guess which Sequel alien gets the highest praise. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu8N134f-DU
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May 8, 2024 10:51
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I think one guy did most of them or his team so they all have that same look. A lot of JJ’s monsters have a similar look as well
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May 8, 2024 10:54
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The MSJ posted:Also guess which Sequel alien gets the highest praise. Slug Guy right? Has to be Slug Guy
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May 8, 2024 10:58
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Gnome de plume posted:Slug Guy right? Has to be Slug Guy I hope it's Babu Frik
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May 8, 2024 11:03
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The MSJ posted:There's a good video about this. The first 6 movies had alien designs that came from all sorts of inspirations, but the ST only has aliens that look "Star Wars-y". Also guess which Sequel alien gets the highest praise.
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May 8, 2024 11:04
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If nothing else, I hate the Star Wars sequels for giving aggrieved nerds something new to whine about for the next 20 loving years. Had enough of that with the prequels thank you very much.
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May 8, 2024 11:07
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Yeah the sequels were very afraid of backlash. They tried anytbing they could to win back the prequel haters Fuckin JJ had the audacity to have the opening line in TFA be “this will begin to make things right” That’s why I liked the last Jedi more. Rian brought prequel poo poo right up and didn’t shy away from it. Basically summed up the point of those movies which was “the Jedi were too blind and complacent to realize they were being manipulated by the most evil man ever” JJ also embarrassingly said he wish he put Jar Jar’s bones in the sand dunes or something. I hate jar jar too but idk those comments are hella stupid to say in hindsight lol
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May 8, 2024 11:13
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Karanas posted:If nothing else, I hate the Star Wars sequels for giving aggrieved nerds something new to whine about for the next 20 loving years. Had enough of that with the prequels thank you very much. Man, be happy the weirdos are busy hating Star wars. If they get bored they'll invade other hobbies. CelticPredator posted:
TLJ rocked imo. I loved the spooky vibes around Rey exploring the dark side. The fight scene in the red throne room was so gorgeous. And that moment they cut the star destroyer in half. Plenty of really strong moments in that movie. No idea what the plot was about. IIRC everyone complained about McGuffins and other cliches.
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May 8, 2024 11:24
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jar jar is less embarrassing than episode 9. like he sucks but conceptually 'comic relief alien sidekick who rises to the occasion in the third act' is a pretty standard and workable idea. 'somehow palpatine returned' is not workable.
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May 8, 2024 11:25
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The MSJ posted:There's a good video about this. The first 6 movies had alien designs that came from all sorts of inspirations, but the ST only has aliens that look "Star Wars-y". This goes for the ships as well. Most of the designs were iterations on earlier things (some good, like Kylo Ren's shuttle, some bad like the TIEs and X-Wings) but the bombers in TLJ were the only thing that felt like they were inspired by the things that inspired Star Wars rather than just the earlier movies. It gets a bit better if you look beyond the sequel trilogy to things like the U-Wing or the Razor Crest.
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May 8, 2024 11:29
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The problem with Disney Star Wars is they get bought by Disney at a time when Disney have the most IP ever but also in one of their least creative periods. [palpatine_ironic.gif]
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May 8, 2024 11:47
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Lord Stimperor posted:Man, be happy the weirdos are busy hating Star wars. If they get bored they'll invade other hobbies. Its a bunch of neat ideas but also some very dumb ideas mired in a slow plot where nothing really happens except Snoke is now dead (And he was never important either). And when I saw the ending I didnt even know how a third movie could resolve everything. Neither did anyone who made the sequels it appears.
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May 8, 2024 11:54
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Jar jar imo doesn’t rise to the occasion. He still bumbles his way to killing some droids. I didn’t enjoy him when I saw the tpm rerelease He was the worst part
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May 8, 2024 12:09
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he also gives eternal power to space hitler
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May 8, 2024 12:17
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CelticPredator posted:Jar jar imo doesn’t rise to the occasion. He still bumbles his way to killing some droids. I didn’t enjoy him when I saw the tpm rerelease He rises to the occasion by providing the votes Palpatine needs to turn the Republic into the Empire. A++ fascism enabler, no notes.
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May 8, 2024 12:18
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Endorph posted:the prequel trilogy also got a huge marketing push with things kids like like toys and video games and a cartoon. the sequel trilogy got disney infinity and a bunch of streaming shows about guys standing around talking. Never forget how late they were to making merch of The Child™
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May 8, 2024 12:21
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Fil5000 posted:He rises to the occasion by providing the votes Palpatine needs to turn the Republic into the Empire. A++ fascism enabler, no notes. I’m just talking Tpm. I don’t remember aotc very much
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May 8, 2024 12:32
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Rapid 99 posted:Never forget how late they were to making merch of The Child™ It was absolutely baffling how slow they were on the uptake
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May 8, 2024 12:38
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Endorph posted:the prequel trilogy also got a huge marketing push with things kids like like toys and video games and a cartoon. the sequel trilogy got disney infinity and a bunch of streaming shows about guys standing around talking. Even those streaming shows aren't about any of the stuff from the sequel movies, they're all about being their own direct follow ups to the OT, PT, or Clone Wars cartoon stuff. There was a Lego star wars movie with sequel characters but it's still all about them time travelling into the PT and OT movies lol.
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May 8, 2024 12:41
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Jar Jar is a Sith.
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May 8, 2024 12:44
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Runa posted:It was absolutely baffling how slow they were on the uptake At least it saved the first season and a half of the show before it went up its own rear end and became another extension of the Filoni-verse.
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May 8, 2024 13:11
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I love Rogue One the film created by people who didn't understand the exhaust port being hubristic oversight was important thematically. I think the oldest I ever felt was standing behind a father and son waiting to get into Force Awakens and the dad talking about how his son dressed as Obi Wan as a kid (the son was probably in his early 20s) and it dawning on me he meant rattail Ewan McGregor not the true OG Obi Wan.
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May 8, 2024 13:33
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I was hoping that Luuke would make an appearance in the Disney canon
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May 8, 2024 13:37
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Carcinisation but it's about internet threads and, well,
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May 8, 2024 13:44
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Milo goes after Filip Zieba who does Graham Hancock's pseudoarchaeology but for the TikToks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqm6McJYbWE
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May 8, 2024 13:59
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Antigravitas posted:Jar Jar is a Sith. They're doing a Darth Jar Jar bit in a new Lego Star Wars special (with Ahmed Best playing him)
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May 8, 2024 14:23
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Dawgstar posted:Milo goes after Filip Zieba who does Graham Hancock's pseudoarchaeology but for the TikToks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqm6McJYbWE This video had some great random moments emerging from what should have been no more than 10 minutes of "No you idiot, that's not real". And then a deep dive into some darker poo poo that I did not expect.
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May 8, 2024 14:45
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Milo mentions at one point that the process of debunking nonsensical conspiracy theories always takes a lot more time and effort than just spouting whatever random bullshit you found on the internet, therefore truth will always be at a disadvantage in our world of endless content creation.
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