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I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict
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May 8, 2024 15:29
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict I suspect they lean into hedonism and are 24/7 blato'd
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May 8, 2024 15:31
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I'd like to meet the 1.5C by 2100 scientists.
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May 8, 2024 15:49
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict they have air conditioning
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May 8, 2024 15:51
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict I have to admit after accidentally seeing that on the guardian front page today I'm struggling to get through the day/week/month/remaining life without just drinking myself to death
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May 8, 2024 15:55
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Barry Foster posted:I have to admit after accidentally seeing that on the guardian front page today I'm struggling to get through the day/week/month/remaining life without just drinking myself to death go touch grass* * the grass is on fire
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May 8, 2024 15:56
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mags posted:they have air conditioning I do too, I think it will be fine
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May 8, 2024 15:58
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Barry Foster posted:I have to admit after accidentally seeing that on the guardian front page today I'm struggling to get through the day/week/month/remaining life without just drinking myself to death making a correct prediction is one of the greatest joys in life. it's divine, like god telling you personally that you are right.
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May 8, 2024 16:18
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict 4C by 2100 isnt particularly threatening, its 76 years away. nobody alive today is going to be alive in 76 years
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May 8, 2024 16:31
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Hubbert posted:I'd like to meet the 1.5C by 2100 scientists. There's a quote from one at the end of that thread. quote:I’ll give the last word to a guarded optimist: “I am convinced that we have all the solutions needed for a 1.5C path and that we will implement them in the coming 20 years. But I fear that our actions might come too late and we cross one or several tipping points.” It's a bit vague ("will implement needed solutions" but not saying directly we'll hit the 1.5C path). If you read it as they're convinced we'll achieve 1.5C, then the conclusion would be they suspect that even that's not good enough. quote:52% of respondents under 50 expecting a rise of at least 3C lol, lmao
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May 8, 2024 16:31
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There are some climate scientists who feel really strongly about that story https://twitter.com/DoctorVive/status/1788175333364998573?t=tInE5XmDlBkbrYrc-nhbLg&s=19 https://twitter.com/ClimateHuman/status/1788216198775124208?t=4dLOCMubdTXlwc_JFFcS7A&s=19 https://twitter.com/CharlieJGardner/status/1788165446505574815?t=tjxc8Egj4vWGmfywCm5O5Q&s=19 And then there's this guy https://twitter.com/MichaelEMann/status/1788209024124559665?t=Kd9E5wyofh4_i8APjdLc9g&s=19 Who's tweeted 5 times in the last hour about how they're all a bunch of cynics who don't understand ~policy~
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May 8, 2024 16:36
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they're not wrong that we have solutions for it all. we just will never implement them. cannot even contemplate doing so.
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May 8, 2024 16:38
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SixteenShells posted:they're not wrong that we have solutions for it all. we just will never implement them. cannot even contemplate doing so. simply grab a few million in startup capital and be the change you want to see in the world
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May 8, 2024 16:39
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lol you don't have to be a policy expert to look at a graph of the required emissions reductions and know we'll never do that poo poo
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May 8, 2024 16:40
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they're too optimistic, frankly. nobody predicted air and sea surface temperatures to decouple from historical means in 2024 and reach a sustained increase of over +1.5C from historical baselines, but it happened. i think that says we've got no loving idea how fast this is going to go now that it's going or how far. e: eg, those 6% who think we will contain heating to 1.5C are already provably wrong and yet are still saying it. One out of every 20 climate scientists is so utterly blinkered that they can't look at the current actual data and go "poo poo guess I was wrong about everything." That doesn't speak well of the average either. The Oldest Man has issued a correction as of 16:45 on May 8, 2024 |
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May 8, 2024 16:42
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we're already at 1.5c, this baby is getting to like 5c by 2100
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May 8, 2024 16:43
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Communist Cop posted:There are some climate scientists who feel really strongly about that story btw this verdict came down today. Defense had argued it's an emergency https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/greta-thunberg-fined-blocking-swedish-parliament-entrance-2024-05-08/
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May 8, 2024 16:48
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The Oldest Man posted:One out of every 20 climate scientists is so utterly blinkered that they can't look at the current actual data and go "poo poo guess I was wrong about everything." That doesn't speak well of the average either. not even scientists are immune to Type Two Errors, i guess
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May 8, 2024 16:51
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Public policy is fundamentally conservative. Outside of really narrow windows of opportunity, public policy doesn't really change. Anyone in the field will tell you that without a huge shock to the system the best they have to offer is incremental change. Since there are no incremental policy changes that will keep warming below 1.5 (or even 2.5), the cynics are correct even in their 'ignorance'.
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May 8, 2024 16:53
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The Oldest Man posted:e: eg, those 6% who think we will contain heating to 1.5C are already provably wrong and yet are still saying it. One out of every 20 climate scientists is so utterly blinkered that they can't look at the current actual data and go "poo poo guess I was wrong about everything." That doesn't speak well of the average either. Yeah I mean how do you see something like this and not get it https://twitter.com/PGDynes/status/1788227910660206849?t=YkojKhIMA1lUekQIWDLH5w&s=19
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May 8, 2024 16:56
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. the same way the rest of us do. by posting
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May 8, 2024 16:56
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Communist Cop posted:Yeah I mean how do you see something like this and not get it Basically high test copium that this is all some oscillation-driven once-in-a-blue-moon thing that doesn't represent the actual climate sensitivity and that it'll all just go away on its own and Follow the Science back to +1.1C or whatever we're supposed to be at now in the fantasy world where we stay under 1.5 by the end of the century.
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May 8, 2024 16:59
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Communist Cop posted:https://twitter.com/ClimateHuman/status/1788216198775124208?t=4dLOCMubdTXlwc_JFFcS7A&s=19 It's not insanity it's simple selfishness. Calling it insanity is cope.
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May 8, 2024 17:21
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doing a capitalism isn’t Normal. it’s insane.
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May 8, 2024 17:24
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its time to get very serious. but first watch this drive. wait. no. drill baby drill
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May 8, 2024 17:33
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Harold Fjord posted:I think you people need to start being realistic. Healthcare,, like food, is not a right.
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May 8, 2024 17:38
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Nix Panicus posted:I dont know how the 4C+ people can get through the day. Maybe theyre older and can take comfort in the knowledge that they won't have to live in the future they predict Trying to get out of debt so I can quit work and be homeless in the mountains for a while again, John Muir style. Communing with the last of nature like a Warboy, standing on the edge of a cliff screaming "witness me"
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May 8, 2024 17:41
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Having fun thinking about how people at all levels of society are finally close to catching up with this thread now. How it'll affect our collective thinking. All those bucket lists. From the lowliest consumer to the loftiest military think tank guy.
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May 8, 2024 17:55
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+3C is a small number; it's not even double digits! All you doomers do is complain! 
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May 8, 2024 18:01
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RIP Syndrome posted:Having fun thinking about how people at all levels of society are finally close to catching up with this thread now. How it'll affect our collective thinking. All those bucket lists. From the lowliest consumer to the loftiest military think tank guy. I'm sort of adjacent to public mental health and have been trying to get people to think about this before it fully settles in, with exactly as many takers as you'd expect. This thread is the only place I can find other people who think it's a fun exercise so thank you thread.
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May 8, 2024 18:14
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with hte power of air conditioning you can reduce by 3C as well, in a matter of minutes
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May 8, 2024 18:18
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We're just going to hit some tipping point and then we'll be like "Oh well it's too late now lol"
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May 8, 2024 18:40
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Actuary X posted:We're just going to hit some tipping point and then we'll be like "Oh well it's too late now lol" fyi this was always the intention
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May 8, 2024 18:42
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lmao so apparently there is a myopia epidemic because everyone is spending all of their time indoors instead of touching grass https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmIsJXw3lP0 https://www.aao.org/eyenet/article/facing-the-myopia-epidemic quote:The myopia epidemic has become virtually impossible to ignore. In 2010, 28% of the world’s population was affected. By 2050, that number could reach 50%.1 The burden has been felt most strongly in East Asia, where rates can be as high as 90%, said Michael X. Repka, MD, at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. “In the United States, we’re nowhere near that level, but rates are higher than they were two generations ago.” I'm just going to say that humans are part of the biosphere and we're definitely collapsing that's why I'm posting it here
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May 8, 2024 18:43
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I, for one, am collapsing in solidarity with the biosphere
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May 8, 2024 18:46
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Actuary X posted:We're just going to hit some tipping point and then we'll be like "Oh well it's too late now lol" 1.5C happened last year and this was the response.
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May 8, 2024 18:46
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TeenageArchipelago posted:lmao so apparently there is a myopia epidemic because everyone is spending all of their time indoors instead of touching grass one could say that people were blind to begin with
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May 8, 2024 18:49
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SIX DEGREES IS COMING
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May 8, 2024 18:55
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the wacky rollercoaster ride to armageddon starts at 3+ but it sure don't end there
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May 8, 2024 19:00
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RIP Syndrome posted:Having fun thinking about how people at all levels of society are finally close to catching up with this thread now. How it'll affect our collective thinking. All those bucket lists. From the lowliest consumer to the loftiest military think tank guy. as reality sets in and people start acting out we're gonna see some serious
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