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tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Like all things it punishes newbies only.

Used it as dredge in a game and the experienced players slow vaulted.

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curiousTerminal
Sep 2, 2011

what a humorous anecdote.
Even the slow vaults get you value a lot of the time, because the hit window on a slow vault is HUGE and it animation lockis survivors for a long, long time. On most of the safe pallets in the game, slow vaults only work if the killer isn't expecting it - Which you will be if Dissolution is active.

Yeah playing around it is realtively easy but the thing is that nobody's ever run it ever outside of Dredge Adept so nobody plays around it well. It's like Hag. All anyone knew for her counterplay was "laser beam on the triangles" and now that that's gone and nobody plays her, nobody knows how the gently caress to deal with her.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Tiny Myers posted:

It's quite rare for me to wish ill things upon a person but I won't share the contents of my brain when I came across someone leaving a troll comment deliberately misgendering her on her loving obituary page, in-between trans people speaking about how she literally saved them from killing themselves.

This is one of those things that isn't exactly SURPRISING to a cis bi guy like me, but it's ... I dunno how to put it. A depressing small detail about the poo poo people have to go through that I hadn't considered because I'm privileged to not have experienced it? I'm sure there's a German word for it. Like there's bigotry, and then there's a bunch of assholes trying to deny your basic humanity in every way they can, every time they can. What the gently caress.

Anyway, that's loving grim. And I'm right there with you. Few things in this world make me angry, but assholes being intentionally cruel to vulnerable people is one of them. loving ghoulish assholes, can't even let the woman rest in peace.

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Been playing more Artist than usual lately because of the archives, it seems people finally figured out "Oh no birds guess I'd better run in and out of this locker and render her power mostly useless". Iron Maiden it is then :v:

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Shaman Tank Spec posted:

This is one of those things that isn't exactly SURPRISING to a cis bi guy like me, but it's ... I dunno how to put it. A depressing small detail about the poo poo people have to go through that I hadn't considered because I'm privileged to not have experienced it? I'm sure there's a German word for it. Like there's bigotry, and then there's a bunch of assholes trying to deny your basic humanity in every way they can, every time they can. What the gently caress.

Anyway, that's loving grim. And I'm right there with you. Few things in this world make me angry, but assholes being intentionally cruel to vulnerable people is one of them. loving ghoulish assholes, can't even let the woman rest in peace.
Yeah, it's like... I don't know. It's not like I should really be surprised at this point with everything I've seen but it still really hit me and made me want to cry because like. A literal loving obituary page? Are you joking? The sheer enmity and dehumanization that has to be involved to not think about your actions and stop at any point in that process.

CW: transphobia, suicide I can't think of a single person where I'd go and shitpost on their obituary, even someone like Kissinger or Alex Jones. I expect it somewhere like Twitter or Reddit, but that's such a... vulnerable, intimate space for people feeling a deep, human grief. And the people making these comments know drat well that other trans people will see it! That's most of the point, actually! They want us to die - that's the ideal outcome. They make jokes about the transgender suicide rate. It's a meme. A punchline.

It's just really... it shakes you to your core, to be confronted with that kind of visceral, deliberate hatred out of nowhere. They are so happy she died and they also want me to die.

I try to empathize to some degree with your garden variety bigot in the sense of like... the alt-right pipe line, you know, so much of it is just being fed lies when you're already in a really dark part of your life. Maybe you're lonely, poor, disenfranchised, your wife left you, your family died, the government failed you... It's been shown time and time again that the alt-right deliberately targets people in bad circumstances and works to radicalize them by providing a fake target to blame real problems on. I've known folks who were good, normal people before they went TERF. Everyone's witnessed the way a normal human being can be turned inside out by these things. And for a lot of people it seems like they get so far in that they can see no other way out but down even if they regret it. A lot of them don't believe this poo poo, it's just lies they have to swallow to keep the community they've found.

But then there's some people who are so deeply, joyfully, viscerally hateful, who have gone full on the dehumanization of others, that I can't even wish them a "hope you get help and deradicalize". I'm just not sure there's any coming back from looking at a woman who died a painful, horrible death while living her truth, seeing the people saying how kind and compassionate she was to others like her, and choosing to spit on her grave. I just feel like maybe at that point if a lightning bolt hits you or a sinkhole opens up underneath you, you shouldn't be surprised.


Sorry I know I'm venting and being a downer but man I'm still just loving pissed off. I hope BHVR does something to honor her. Anyway

DeathChicken posted:

Been playing more Artist than usual lately because of the archives, it seems people finally figured out "Oh no birds guess I'd better run in and out of this locker and render her power mostly useless". Iron Maiden it is then :v:
Love Iron Maiden on Bubba and Doctor for this reason.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS
https://x.com/DeadbyDaylight/status/1787497818376044580

RIP Potential Energy exploit

Lonjon
Jun 26, 2007

Books are the real treasures of the world!
Fun Shoe
"Fixed an issue in Raccoon City Police Department East Wing where players could climb onto the toilets"

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Lonjon posted:

"Fixed an issue in Raccoon City Police Department East Wing where players could climb onto the toilets"

Between this and them fixing the T-pose when using Dramaturgy in an earlier patch what is even the point to playing anymore

quote:

Fixed an issue that caused the Huntress Inhuman Brute cosmetic sounds to be too low.

Good, now people can stop complaining about it

Comfortador
Jul 31, 2003

Just give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have.

Wait...wait.

I worry what you just heard was...
"Give me a lot of b4con_n_3ggs."

What I said was...
"Give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have"

...Do you understand?

Tiny Myers posted:

Good, now people can stop complaining about it

Pay 2 win! Pay 2 Win! :byodood:

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Tiny Myers posted:

Good, now people can stop complaining about it

And instead start pointing out that this got fixed in like a week, while they've been "working on" evening out survivor volumes for half a decade?

Ace has free Iron Grit, while an injured Jane and Ash sounds like a violent porno.

Comfortador
Jul 31, 2003

Just give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have.

Wait...wait.

I worry what you just heard was...
"Give me a lot of b4con_n_3ggs."

What I said was...
"Give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have"

...Do you understand?

rydiafan posted:

And instead start pointing out that this got fixed in like a week, while they've been "working on" evening out survivor volumes for half a decade?

Ace has free Iron Grit, while an injured Jane and Ash sounds like a violent porno.

Do you think all the survivors should have the same volume level? edit: or should they just minimize the disparity?

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Comfortador posted:

Do you think all the survivors should have the same volume level? edit: or should they just minimize the disparity?

They said that indeed that was the goal. Scott made a video a week or so ago about how they're doomed either way on this because they just showed they could adjust the volume quickly.

As always though I remind people that software development can be a giant pain in the rear end and just because they were able to change Huntress' sound easily doesn't mean it can be done on the survivor side. It probably can, but it's not a 1:1 comparison.

Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
Fixing clear outliers in audio(Ace being super quiet, the guys who sound like dying, wheezing bears when injured, etc) is good. They can't and shouldn't shoot for perfect balance in all survivor characteristics for stealth or you'll have to ask silly questions like should all survivors be the exact same height or should we turn Claudette's skin white, Meg's hair brown, etc.

It helps that as far as visual differences things are much more balanced, you have loads of options to correct and people are naturally encouraged to consider being stand-out to show off desired fashion sense or even as a strategy to attract killers to stronger loopers.

Doomykins fucked around with this message at 20:51 on May 6, 2024

Comfortador
Jul 31, 2003

Just give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have.

Wait...wait.

I worry what you just heard was...
"Give me a lot of b4con_n_3ggs."

What I said was...
"Give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have"

...Do you understand?

Doomykins posted:

Fixing clear outliers in audio(Ace being super quiet, the guys who sound like dying, wheezing bears when injured, etc) is good. They can't and shouldn't shoot for perfect balance in all survivor characteristics for stealth or you'll have to ask silly questions like should all survivors be the exact same height or should we turn Claudette's skin white, Meg's hair brown, etc.

It helps that as far as visual differences things are much more balanced, you have loads of options to correct and people are naturally encouraged to consider being out stand-out to show off desired fashion sense or even as a strategy to attract killers to stronger loopers.

See I agree with this, you can bring them into a kind of "near" balance, but they shouldn't be the same exact level.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

I think it's probably physically impossible to completely equalize them, since the actual decibel loudness of the breaths is only a part of it. A raspy wheeze is going to sound out clearer than a deep grunt, so unless you just give everyone the same voice it won't really work.

Counterstrike-ification is a deadly disease and getting things close enough is enough to avoid 600 matches of DBD_dust. Some people may "exploit" with certain characters but it just has to be that way if you want any variety at all.

rydiafan
Mar 17, 2009


Yeah, nobody is looking for identical soundwaves or anything. Just bring those outliers in so it isn't strictly superior to play certain survivors, from a competitive point of view.

Like, I know Otz is a database of every aspect of the game, but this video shouldn't exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmXuzal1Kk

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

Otz going off really hard on the transphobic subhumans who were defacing Zoey's obituary was nice to see. I always knew Otz was a good person but I remember a few years ago he was very hesitant to appear "political" on issues like this so seeing him being willing to tell people to gently caress off is good.

curiousTerminal
Sep 2, 2011

what a humorous anecdote.
I remember when people were asking him to play bad wizard game he responded with "no thanks, I have other ways of torturing my trans friends, like making them moderate for me."

Umbreon
May 21, 2011

curiousTerminal posted:

I remember when people were asking him to play bad wizard game he responded with "no thanks, I have other ways of torturing my trans friends, like making them moderate for me."

:lol:

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


rydiafan posted:

Yeah, nobody is looking for identical soundwaves or anything. Just bring those outliers in so it isn't strictly superior to play certain survivors, from a competitive point of view.

Like, I know Otz is a database of every aspect of the game, but this video shouldn't exist.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsmXuzal1Kk
To be fair this is 3 years old and they did do a bit of rebalancing since - Ace's volume difference is not as pronounced now as it was in this video, even though he is still quiet. Some of it is hard to imagine rebalancing without re-recording lines - Ace's sounds are naturally a bit quieter by way of being like huffing and puffing, versus Leon S. Kennedy sounding like the killer is currently massaging his prostate.

I think the biggest issues I have with volume are some of the more recent survivors. Gabriel is surprisingly loud, my boy sounds like he's injured when running even when he isn't.

curiousTerminal posted:

I remember when people were asking him to play bad wizard game he responded with "no thanks, I have other ways of torturing my trans friends, like making them moderate for me."
I nearly spat out my drink

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Tiny Myers posted:

Sorry I know I'm venting and being a downer but man I'm still just loving pissed off. I hope BHVR does something to honor her. Anyway

It is 100% understood. My heart goes out to you and all the other folks affected by these loving assholes.

Ibram Gaunt posted:

Otz going off really hard on the transphobic subhumans who were defacing Zoey's obituary was nice to see. I always knew Otz was a good person but I remember a few years ago he was very hesitant to appear "political" on issues like this so seeing him being willing to tell people to gently caress off is good.

Yeah. I kinda get why many streamers want to steer clear of "political" stuff, but we're at a point where "I don't want to talk about it" doesn't cut it. Some assholes will take it as a silent endorsement, and many others enjoy the room it leaves for them to be loving ghoulish shitbag monsters. That's why i try to call it out where ever and whenever I see it, even if it leads to confrontations -- unless specifically asked not to by the people affected.

I still work as a freelance games journalist on the side, and I've made it my business to call out lovely things in games and games culture, thankfully with the blessing of my EICs and the feedback I get is loving wild. People are loving deranged; one time this long time idiot who kept spamming slurs in the comments of all my reviews and articles decided to add me to some chat group on Facebook so he and his friends could spam slurs at me directly, and it turns out that Facebook does not actually allow you to prevent this from happening. or at least didn't a few years ago.

So yeah, I definitely get why streamers want to steer clear of this because it's got to suck even more when that poo poo happens live and directly and constantly. But at the same time we have to fight this poo poo and make it clear these dipshits are not welcome.

Shaman Tank Spec fucked around with this message at 10:12 on May 7, 2024

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022
Most of the streamers who try to "steer clear of politics" do so because they are the exact chuds who do hate trans people.

Shaman Tank Spec
Dec 26, 2003

*blep*



Kwolok posted:

Most of the streamers who try to "steer clear of politics" do so because they are the exact chuds who do hate trans people.

Yeah that's sadly depressingly true as well.

CuddleCryptid
Jan 11, 2013

Things could be going better

Shaman Tank Spec posted:

People are loving deranged; one time this long time idiot who kept spamming slurs in the comments of all my reviews and articles decided to add me to some chat group on Facebook so he and his friends could spam slurs at me directly, and it turns out that Facebook does not actually allow you to prevent this from happening. or at least didn't a few years ago.

Yeah this is a large part of it. We are want to pretend that we "got over" gamergate but it taught us a very important lesson: there's a subset of people online that exist only to harass targets, and the only safety you have is to not be the person they pick because platform's aren't going to do poo poo. Being popular enough to be known while not popular enough to be safe *and* vocal about something is a good way to get pictures of your house sent to you. So good for those who actually do it.

Pants Donkey
Nov 13, 2011

Normalize survivor sounds by making them use the exact same audio clips comprised entirely from Otz streams.

Umbreon
May 21, 2011

Pants Donkey posted:

Normalize survivor sounds by making them use the exact same audio clips comprised entirely from Otz streams.

That one otz scream fade-out on being downed. Please behavior, I need it

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Kwolok posted:

Most of the streamers who try to "steer clear of politics" do so because they are the exact chuds who do hate trans people.

Been burned so many times that straight up I do not watch any streamer that doesn't have "no bigotry" as one of their chat rules because turns out "be excellent to each other" doesn't count when I don't know what your definition of "excellent" is. Would you guess that sometimes it includes making jokes about trigger warnings, pronouns, etc

They could be a great streamer for all I know! But the absence of that one rule is enough to keep my rear end away. "No politics" as a rule is another big red flag. Like, I stream sometimes, I get it, I understand not wanting your lighthearted video game chat to steer into a debate about current genocides, but "no politics" tends to just be a dogwhistle for "letting bigots make jokes then scolding marginalized people for making it 'political' (read: being hurt and calling it out)".

You'd think that a ruleset like "1. Be nice 2. No politics" would be perfectly innocuous but it leads to some real loving rancid chats and I really appreciate that Otz is actively vocal about this stuff, because you wouldn't know it but you really have to be. You have to actively work to keep the place inclusive and weed this poo poo out early and often. Even if you wouldn't think that much effort needs to go into cultivating a space like "a dumb chat for watching a guy do dumb things in video games", the waters already have an easy contamination point with how normalized alt-right dogwhistle poo poo like pepes are on Twitch (which sounds stupid, of course, but that's because they purposely made it stupid and plausibly deniable, so you sound like a maniac talking about it).

Like most online spaces, it's very much the nazi-at-the-bar anecdote.



The good news is that twitch as a platform has largely gotten more and more vocally leftist and there's a lot of really solid streams out there for pretty much any game and niche you could want that are inclusive and cool. I spend a lot of time on there just chilling with friends and it's nice to carve out these niche communities.

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022
You're recommended twitch streams have gotten more left but the platform as a whole is still a festering poo poo hole of debate bros and "centrists"

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Kwolok posted:

You're recommended twitch streams have gotten more left but the platform as a whole is still a festering poo poo hole of debate bros and "centrists"

Kwolok I really do genuinely my best to engage you in good faith but have you considered not assuming you automatically know better about everything sometimes because posts like this come across as deeply condescending

Like, saying "you're (sic) recommended twitch streams", implying I'm myopic and ignorant to the broad state of Twitch thanks to some #ALGORITHM (I don't browse Twitch based on recs thanks though), despite the fact that I just dropped like 5 paragraphs implying I've been using the website often and for a very long time and witnessed a lot of bigotry from the perspective of a marginalized person both as a viewer and a streamer, and have witnessed enough to make my own educated decisions on whether or not the site has improved, relatively speaking

Yes, it is not broadly leftist in the sense the vast majority of streamers are vaguely centrist or worse, but there are a lot more outspoken leftist streamers who are very popular and in the public eye than there were, streaming in LGBT categories does not automatically get you hatemobbed anymore, and Twitch's moderation tools have improved. It has overall gotten more accessible to marginalized people.

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

Tiny Myers posted:

Kwolok I really do genuinely my best to engage you in good faith but have you considered not assuming you automatically know better about everything sometimes because posts like this come across as deeply condescending

Like, saying "you're (sic) recommended twitch streams", implying I'm myopic and ignorant to the broad state of Twitch thanks to some #ALGORITHM (I don't browse Twitch based on recs thanks though), despite the fact that I just dropped like 5 paragraphs implying I've been using the website often and for a very long time and witnessed a lot of bigotry from the perspective of a marginalized person both as a viewer and a streamer, and have witnessed enough to make my own educated decisions on whether or not the site has improved, relatively speaking

Yes, it is not broadly leftist in the sense the vast majority of streamers are vaguely centrist or worse, but there are a lot more outspoken leftist streamers who are very popular and in the public eye than there were, streaming in LGBT categories does not automatically get you hatemobbed anymore, and Twitch's moderation tools have improved. It has overall gotten more accessible to marginalized people.

I've actually long suspected you and Kwolok are the same person with opposing secret personalities. You're infinitely optimistic and just generally happy, Kwolok is always the biggest Debbie Downer in this thread. Do you ever black out and not remember where you were?

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Medullah posted:

I've actually long suspected you and Kwolok are the same person with opposing secret personalities. You're infinitely optimistic and just generally happy, Kwolok is always the biggest Debbie Downer in this thread. Do you ever black out and not remember where you were?

No one has ever seen us in the same room... :tinfoil:

You're a sweetie, Medullah

Comfortador
Jul 31, 2003

Just give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have.

Wait...wait.

I worry what you just heard was...
"Give me a lot of b4con_n_3ggs."

What I said was...
"Give me all the 3ggs_n_b4con you have"

...Do you understand?

Medullah posted:

I've actually long suspected you and Kwolok are the same person with opposing secret personalities. You're infinitely optimistic and just generally happy, Kwolok is always the biggest Debbie Downer in this thread. Do you ever black out and not remember where you were?

:laffo:

DeathChicken
Jul 9, 2012

Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself.

Wow whatever they did with this last patch has made the game unplayable. Got into a match on Ormond, every few steps the screen was shaking like I was in an earthquake

Medullah
Aug 14, 2003

FEAR MY SHARK ROCKET IT REALLY SUCKS AND BLOWS

DeathChicken posted:

Wow whatever they did with this last patch has made the game unplayable. Got into a match on Ormond, every few steps the screen was shaking like I was in an earthquake

Did you look around the room to see if anything fell over and maybe you had an actual earthquake?

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022

Tiny Myers posted:

Kwolok I really do genuinely my best to engage you in good faith but have you considered not assuming you automatically know better about everything sometimes because posts like this come across as deeply condescending

Like, saying "you're (sic) recommended twitch streams", implying I'm myopic and ignorant to the broad state of Twitch thanks to some #ALGORITHM (I don't browse Twitch based on recs thanks though), despite the fact that I just dropped like 5 paragraphs implying I've been using the website often and for a very long time and witnessed a lot of bigotry from the perspective of a marginalized person both as a viewer and a streamer, and have witnessed enough to make my own educated decisions on whether or not the site has improved, relatively speaking

Yes, it is not broadly leftist in the sense the vast majority of streamers are vaguely centrist or worse, but there are a lot more outspoken leftist streamers who are very popular and in the public eye than there were, streaming in LGBT categories does not automatically get you hatemobbed anymore, and Twitch's moderation tools have improved. It has overall gotten more accessible to marginalized people.

:shrug: when the Harry Potter game came out pretty much any big ol streamer had no problem playing the transphobe game. I don't doubt that there may now be some carved out sections of twitch that are safer spaces, but by and larg when I chose a random stream to watch inevitably there is some sort of lame poo poo happening in chat that is simply left to fester.

Like dbd seems to be a somewhat positive game but did you ever browse any of the TCM streams because Jesus Christ.

Also, hi, I'm also a member of the lgbtq.

If your argument is "there's is a tiny bit less bigotry on twitch". My answer is, maybe? But if what you are saying is there are niche parts of twitch that are better spaces that have better tools to deal with idiots then I do agree but I think by and large because it's filled with gamers it's still a toxic cess pool unless you know exactly where to go.

Kwolok fucked around with this message at 03:07 on May 8, 2024

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The real Kwolok analogue is Stux. Correct takes delivered in the most frictionally annoying (for stux) or depressive/hopeless (for Kwolok) ways possible but it also shows who is too heated to get the message when they focus on the messengers and don't address the message which is typically correct. (especially with stux lmaooo) Kwolok is that much of a downer because they see poo poo for what they it is and call it out accordingly. People may not like or agree with how they say poo poo, and certainly don't understand their perspective when they're putting out so much friction, but they're usually right. Don't @ me, IYKYK.

Kwolok
Jan 4, 2022
Maybe the real kwokok was the friends we made along the way.

I have to say, this last patch actually seems to have completely eliminated the weird rubber banding and input lag I was having. Good job BHVR!

Tiny Myers
Jul 29, 2021

say hello to my little friend


Kwolok posted:

:shrug: when the Harry Potter game came out pretty much any big ol streamer had no problem playing the transphobe game. I don't doubt that there may now be some carved out sections of twitch that are safer spaces, but by and larg when I chose a random stream to watch inevitably there is some sort of lame poo poo happening in chat that is simply left to fester.

Like dbd seems to be a somewhat positive game but did you ever browse any of the TCM streams because Jesus Christ.

Also, hi, I'm also a member of the lgbtq.

If your argument is "there's is a tiny bit less bigotry on twitch". My answer is, maybe? But if what you are saying is there are niche parts of twitch that are better spaces that have better tools to deal with idiots then I do agree but I think by and large because it's filled with gamers it's still a toxic cess pool unless you know exactly where to go.

Guess we can agree to disagree, I don't think your experiences invalidate mine and vice versa. Sorry you've experienced way more toxicity in your neck of the woods.


Kwolok posted:

I have to say, this last patch actually seems to have completely eliminated the weird rubber banding and input lag I was having. Good job BHVR!

This is great! :) Unfortunately, some folks are still having it, judging by all the clips I've seen on Reddit. I hope they can figure out the remaining causes soon.

I wonder what the source is? I haven't been playing a ton since the new patch but haven't noticed any rubberbanding myself, but I know some are getting it to the point that it's unplayable. Differences in hardware or differences in ping?



I'm surprised I haven't seen people complaining about them rereleasing charms from the rift as pay bundles, something they said they weren't going to do. Personally I don't mind because gently caress FOMO, and also last week's charm bundle was like 150 aurics for a set that included brass loving knuckles from some early David King rift. It's too funny to have that on Yun-Jin's belt so I ended up buying it.

Tiny Myers fucked around with this message at 08:11 on May 9, 2024

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tithin
Nov 14, 2003


[Grandmaster Tactician]



Didnt even know they were doing rift charm bundhles, that's neat.
I've no issue with that at all.

Anyway, I've had three games tonight, all of them Oni, starting to wonder if I'm cursed.

Joke's on the second one though, I was doing Zarina FTP / Buckle up challenge and got him five times.

I did not escape.

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