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veni veni veni posted:Unpopular opinion I like thin devices Then the physics of light are all "lol you want thin and high resolution images? get hosed with this giant camera island, nerd".
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May 9, 2024 04:12
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The big ipad is pretty heavy when its fully kitted out so weight reduction there is appreciated
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May 9, 2024 04:25
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Lol the Airs are now the thickest and heaviest iPads for sale
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May 9, 2024 04:32
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That is pretty funny
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May 9, 2024 04:33
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It’s called the Air because it’s light on features.
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May 9, 2024 04:43
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FCKGW posted:Apple Watch I don’t mean to make you feel old but the watch and AirPods, (which I agree were the last of the ‘room full of great designers’ product) were both unveiled nearly a decade ago.
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May 9, 2024 04:43
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Wonder how much creative energy went to the doomed Apple Car project. Hopefully not too much
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May 9, 2024 04:47
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Branch Nvidian posted:It’s called the Air because it’s light on features. 
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May 9, 2024 05:06
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hatty posted:Wonder how much creative energy went to the doomed Apple Car project. Hopefully not too much Hey we got car play out of it so it’s not a total loss
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May 9, 2024 05:53
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I missed the video but is there any new software features they showed off and is it device-locked to the new ones or will the M1 Pro still get anything nice and new?
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May 9, 2024 08:53
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Question Mark Mound posted:I missed the video but is there any new software features they showed off and is it device-locked to the new ones or will the M1 Pro still get anything nice and new? They showed some new UI stuff with the new pencil which is safe to assume will be exclusive to the new models, only because they're controlled with its hardware features - little radial menus that let you choose pen types/colours/etc by hovering and rotating the stylus. Everyone's waiting with baited breath to see if they'll revamp the OS in any serious way at WWDC. It'd be hilarious if they're just like 'presenting: stage manager 2.0!' and then show off a couple more pre-set window tiling configurations.
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May 9, 2024 10:04
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I keep forgetting Stage Manager is a thing. Disabled it the moment I saw just how much wasted space it had when having two apps side by side.  Probably only makes sense on the 12.9" devices.
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May 9, 2024 11:17
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Question Mark Mound posted:I keep forgetting Stage Manager is a thing. Disabled it the moment I saw just how much wasted space it had when having two apps side by side. It is pretty decent on the 12.9" but can still be frustrating dealing with the limited sizes of each of the screens. I wish I could just add more than one additional app to the "traditional" view.
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May 9, 2024 13:00
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Question Mark Mound posted:I keep forgetting Stage Manager is a thing. Disabled it the moment I saw just how much wasted space it had when having two apps side by side. Before I traded in my ipad pro 11 for a macbook, I did make a decent go of using it as a laptop via stage manager. It was only really usable plugged into an external display, and you did start to see potential there - you could work on apps on the bigger screen, drag stuff around etc. But there are so many weird interactions where the ipad gets confused between what's happening on the ipad screen and the external screen. It's doable, but very unintuitive.
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May 9, 2024 13:04
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I have the 11” WiFi+Cell 256gb Pro in checkout basket but I’m making myself wait for the first reviews. I don’t expect they’ll tell me anything I don’t already know but I’m really trying not to make this an impulse upgrade. My 2020 11” is, for all intents and purposes, still perfectly usable for 100% of my daily tasks. It’s also my primary device, getting WAY more of my time than my MBP for most things. At this point if I upgrade it’s simply because I know the M4 is the latest/greatest device I will use hours a day every day for the next four or so years, while the 2020 will probably start to fall off as new features arrive. It’s a weird justification because I could just buy a new device as my needs dictate, but sometimes the heart just wants what it wants, yeah? Also $360 CDN tradein value on my 2020 Pro which is only going to get lower and lower.
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May 9, 2024 13:20
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some kinda jackal posted:I have the 11” WiFi+Cell 256gb Pro in checkout basket but I’m making myself wait for the first reviews. I don’t expect they’ll tell me anything I don’t already know but I’m really trying not to make this an impulse upgrade. The real move is to wait for what wwdc brings up. But whatever you’re right, I don’t need the iPad but I want one lol.
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May 9, 2024 13:39
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hatty posted:The big ipad is pretty heavy when its fully kitted out so weight reduction there is appreciated That's a good point. I have the current (for now) Air, and with the Magic Keyboard, I think it weighs a little bit more than my M1 MacBook Air. The keyboard is heavy by design so it doesn't tip over, so making the iPad lighter helps reduce the weight on the overall setup, while still making it usable as a laptop replacement.
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May 9, 2024 14:11
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Question Mark Mound posted:I keep forgetting Stage Manager is a thing. Disabled it the moment I saw just how much wasted space it had when having two apps side by side. One thing I like about it is that iPhone apps without ipad UI do run nicely on it as their own window. That’s about the only real use I get out of it.
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May 9, 2024 14:13
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Swing and a miss. Theres no point of a full size ipad. Traded in my full size junkpad and copped the M3 air, and an ipad Mini. This combo is superior in every way.
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May 9, 2024 14:36
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:This, in a way, is a radical new design. I’m still wrapping my head around their need to make things stupid thin. Did anyone feel the current models were too thick? To go ahead and push for thinner, at the cost of battery size (regardless of chip efficiency) on this device seems absolutely wild to me. They could have kept the same thickness and wowed people with EVEN MORE battery life. But no, let’s limit ourselves for no apparent reason and have now set the current (prior?) models battery life baselines the standard moving forward instead of improving on it. Did you ever hold the 12.9 in a place like your bed at night where you might be holding it up for a hot minute? It wasn't the weight itself; it was the way the weight interacted with the joints in your hand when you sometimes have to hold it up with one hand and interact with the other. This is limited to the 12.9 chassis. I'm sure the 11 is fine, so maybe they should have kept the battery there. But the other thing is, the battery on the pro 12.9 is wild good and at some point you're making a mobile device thicker and heavier so... I don't know, it holds a charge for like a week or something? Is that practical vs weight savings? What I'm saying is that the weight sucks on the current one and the new form factor is huge for anyone, imo, with the bigger model. xzzy posted:Then the physics of light are all "lol you want thin and high resolution images? get hosed with this giant camera island, nerd". I would buy one of these without a rear camera so fast. The 13 inch without a camera would be insanely awesome. The funny part is, maybe Apple agrees. They deleted the ultrawide cam. Maybe in a few years we can all agree that an ipad doesn't need a camera, but I'm sure people have their uses. I don't want it to go away, I just want the option... 
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May 9, 2024 14:38
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again: they shaved over 100g off the 13, gave it a little more screen real estate AND went from 6.4 nm to 5.1nm. Weight and dimensions interact; this iPad is going to be significantly easier and lighter to hold, and it's going to be very obvious and welcomed in practice, in a way that most people just won't understand until they hold it.
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May 9, 2024 15:30
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Taima posted:again: they shaved over 100g off the 13, gave it a little more screen real estate AND went from 6.4 nm to 5.1nm. Wow they really did make it thin 
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May 9, 2024 16:09
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sourdough posted:Wow they really did make it thin Maybe those are nautical miles to explain the long running time.
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May 9, 2024 16:13
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haha ill keep it Call it aspirational  I have been buried in papers about the n3e process the M4 uses so all I've been reading about is nanometers for like 2 hours lol e: the first benchies came out for the M4 and they're insane, which is what got me down this nanometer rabbit hole. I just wasn't going to post about it here because frankly I don't think the raw compute is that important to people in a device like this. Power usage is a much more relevant metric and we've already more or less gone over that 
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May 9, 2024 16:20
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Taima posted:again: they shaved over 100g off the 13, gave it a little more screen real estate AND went from 6.4 nm to 5.1nm. *Adds weight back with magic keyboard case* "It's so light!" 
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May 9, 2024 17:13
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Mister Facetious posted:*Adds weight back with magic keyboard case* You do get that half the point of the magic keyboard is that it's absurdly easy to just pop the iPad off it when you don't need to type poo poo and want to hold it like a tablet, yeah? 'Cause that's the point that the weight actually matters.
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May 9, 2024 17:17
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Unless I’m mistaken, didn’t they discontinue the keyboard case? Thought I read that somewhere
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May 9, 2024 17:19
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The Grumbles posted:It's weird because Apple used to be all about thoughtful and genius industrial design applied to things you never new you needed, whereas modern apple is like them flexing their enormous wealth and supply chain dominance to put the best screen technology into product designs that don't completely fit into people's lives (the vision pro, and to a lesser extent, this). There are lots of things I prefer about their products and design that make me lean towards them, but I can't remember the last time they launched something that felt new, surprising and exciting. Remember when every new computer felt like a landmark work of industrial design that would set the aesthetic for every home office for the next 2 years? This is just nostalgia thinking. What era are you thinking of? The iPod nano was maybe 80% a flex of how much flash memory they could buy all at once and lock up for years before the competition. Most of the last Steve Jobs era was a supply chain era under the hood.
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May 9, 2024 17:22
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Last Chance posted:Unless I’m mistaken, didn’t they discontinue the keyboard case? Thought I read that somewhere nah and its actually way better this year. My best bud is a lead on the keyboard project. It is far better than the existing magic keyboards. e: oh sorry I should link: https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MWR53LL/A/magic-keyboard-for-ipad-pro-13%E2%80%91inch-m4-us-english-black Now, the price? That is less awesome. I'm going to buy one for my 13 inch but you know I'm going to grumble hard about it lol Taima fucked around with this message at 17:29 on May 9, 2024 |
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May 9, 2024 17:26
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Taima posted:nah and its actually way better this year. My best bud is a lead on the keyboard project. It is far better than the existing magic keyboards. That’s going to be something because the current one is pretty drat good
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May 9, 2024 17:29
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I totally agree, but wait until you use the new one  please report back when/if you do, I value your opinion in general.
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May 9, 2024 17:30
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Yeah the one they killed off was the old ‘Smart Keyboard folio’ or whatever that was a lovely rubber keyboard without a track pad stuck on some cheap pleather. The Magic Keyboard owns, even if it is overpriced and the new one looks like it’ll be even better.
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May 9, 2024 17:31
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I love my current Magic Keyboard but not $349 love. I got it on sale for like $180 and even that was pushing it.
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May 9, 2024 17:33
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Yeah, it's honestly just hard to talk about cost re: the ipad pros because they're so deep into "no one needs this unless you're in the 1% who benefit professionally" territory that it's like...  fwiw though I'm exactly with you. I got it for almost exactly that price too, and I also barely use it, so. lol The new one is objectively incredible though. Just wait until you can see it in person and you may be convinced.
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May 9, 2024 17:49
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Vegastar posted:Yeah the one they killed off was the old ‘Smart Keyboard folio’ or whatever that was a lovely rubber keyboard without a track pad stuck on some cheap pleather. The Magic Keyboard owns, even if it is overpriced and the new one looks like it’ll be even better. I’m actually a big fan of the lovely rubber keyboard folio because it did exactly what I needed and nothing more. The new one will take some adjusting to IMO, but I’m not going to let that be a hurdle. So I’m a little salty about it getting the chop, but I’ll live. E: To be clear, I’m not making a case for it being objectively good, just that it was my preferred method oftext entry while being ultra light and ultra flippable.
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May 9, 2024 17:52
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Taima posted:Yeah, it's honestly just hard to talk about cost re: the ipad pros because they're so deep into "no one needs this unless you're in the 1% who benefit professionally" territory that it's like... I waffled back and forth on it a ton but I’ve taken to running my desktop headless as a media server/steam deck streaming host and do all the management and maintenance poo poo through Jump remotely and trying to do that with the virtual keyboard sounded so miserable that I just ate it and paid the crazy price to not gently caress up my whole workflow.
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May 9, 2024 17:55
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Are we the same person? I ran a headless media PC with 100TB+ of storage (but just remoted into it from my main pc) forever. I recently converted it into also being a full-time Sound Voltex arcade cabinet so it's not headless anymore but I can totally see how the keyboard would be essential there. It's honestly a great product. The other "problem" was I used to commute an hour each way into silicon valley but I work 100% from home now. The main use my magic keyboard got was just taking the thing into meetings and taking notes with the pencil and keyboard, which was actually great, but I can't do that anymore.
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May 9, 2024 18:03
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If you're like me and ordered a new Apple Pencil assuming that it'd work with a M2 Pro AND got it engraved (dumbass) , you'll have to chat with Apple to cancel it at this stage. As far as I can tell, the only place Apple details compatibility is in the dropdown devices menu...which at the very least maybe shouldn't be a dropdown when only 2 iPads are compatible.hatty posted:Wonder how much creative energy went to the doomed Apple Car project. Hopefully not too much Looking at what's happening at Tesla, it would appear all the money in the world can only buy you so much engineering talent so Apple definitely shortchanged projects elsewhere to work on their car. And they probably spent more than it'd cost to just buy Rivian at this stage.
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May 9, 2024 18:45
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Krispy Wafer posted:If you're like me and ordered a new Apple Pencil assuming that it'd work with a M2 Pro AND got it engraved (dumbass) , you'll have to chat with Apple to cancel it at this stage. As far as I can tell, the only place Apple details compatibility is in the dropdown devices menu...which at the very least maybe shouldn't be a dropdown when only 2 iPads are compatible.  The product page for stuff usually has detailed compatibility lists.
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Jose Oquendo posted:
while helpful and detailed, what a loving mess of a product line (both pencil and ipad).
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